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robbob

(3,750 posts)
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:46 PM Nov 2021

Ok, hate to do this, but need some debunking help...

Buddy of mine watches who WAY to much Faux News is all excited about some indictments of lawyer involved in the “now discredited” (?) Steele dossier. Is convinced Hillary and various agencies were working to slander TFG by implying he had Russian conflicts of interest (surely not!!!).

Anyway, some of what he wrote:

“ More arrests in Hillary’s falsified Russia collusion scam: Michael Sussman (Hillary’s attorney) indicted for lying to FBI repeatedly, Kevin Klinesmith jailed for lying to FISA court repeatedly, and now Igor Danchenko arrested and charged with FIVE counts of making false statements to FBI in fake Trump Dossier that he co-wrote…”

Again, sorry; this will probably be alerted on as pushing RW talking points, and mods; I’ll totally understand if it gets hidden, but I am seriously interested in finding out what’s the truth behind this story, and maybe being able to give my buddy a good rebuttal.

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Ok, hate to do this, but need some debunking help... (Original Post) robbob Nov 2021 OP
Watch Rachel's show for the TRUE story, from last night....link here OnDoutside Nov 2021 #1
Barr's mole doing his duty ymetca Nov 2021 #2
Yes. empedocles Nov 2021 #4
My usual response to such nonsense is some version of "Fuck off!" hunter Nov 2021 #3
"Buddy of mine..." BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #5
??? I've been a member here since 2001 robbob Nov 2021 #6

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
2. Barr's mole doing his duty
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:56 PM
Nov 2021

You can read:

Sussman:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/special-counsels-weird-prosecution-michael-sussmann

Clinesmith:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/us/politics/kevin-clinesmith-probation.html

The goal is to muddy up the waters on the whole Steele Dossier, trying to suggest "the fruit of the poisonous tree" defense makes TFG squeaky clean.

hunter

(40,702 posts)
3. My usual response to such nonsense is some version of "Fuck off!"
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 08:16 PM
Nov 2021

If I'm truly irritated I'll go for the deeper sorts of wounding sarcasm.

Sarcasm, from the ancient Greek, to strip the flesh with one's teeth.

You can't fix anyone who has incorporated anti-intellectualism into their religious beliefs.

All you can do is take them to the hospital when they fall, and bury them if they die.

robbob

(3,750 posts)
6. ??? I've been a member here since 2001
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 08:54 PM
Nov 2021

And I have a “buddy”, actually a fellow musician and fantastic blues harmonica player from Chicago who I play with in several bands, who is a decent enough guy, but has some strange RW tendencies fuelled by his Faux News watching habits who sent me this text message. If you’re suggesting that I fabricated this whole story in order to spread RW talking points then just say so. Otherwise apologize for whatever baseless innuendo you are suggesting, or keep your snark to yourself.

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