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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMerrick Garland needs to be fired.
Coup plotter Steve Bannon is out on his soap box leading the ongoing insurrection. If it takes this long to make a decision about low hanging fruit Steve Bannon why bother subpoenaing people who were in the Trump administration? If Garland ever decides to send Bannon before a grand jury, that is just step 1. If the grand jury convicts Bannon he still must go before a jury trial which he will assuredly appeal all the way to the Nazi Supreme Court. How long will that take?
The time is long passed for people to keep telling me to be patient. Trump is winning, his tactic is to delay until the GQP takes back the House and maybe the Senate. The only way to stop Trump from running again in 2024 is to prosecute him, prosecute him, and then prosecute him some more.
High school and college wrestling has started, I may just tune out politics and enjoy myself. I get bashed by Democrats here anyway so why endure the aggravation. I baby sat my 8 year old grandson all of last week, I sent him to his first wrestling practice, helped him study and play, had a blast, didn't tune in to one bit of politics. I come back to DU and it's the same ole same ole, nothing about Bannon, nothing about prosecuting Trump and his seditionists.
If it takes this long for Bannon then the select committee is going to have to bypass Garland and go for inherent contempt and lock up people who refuse subpoenas or who refuse to testify.
If Trump runs and wins in 2024 he won't just get 4 more years.
Celerity
(43,635 posts)wait a while.
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)that's why I am pissed that Garland appears to not have done a damn thing yet.
Jose Garcia
(2,609 posts)Celerity
(43,635 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,121 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)What do you think Bannon is doing?
Pretty soon the Constitution won't be worth the paper it's written on. If we're not there already. Isn't that their goal after all?
Let's just sit around and watch them while they continue to do so, and then we can all complain about how permanently fucked we all are.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,121 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Like the rule of law that the Supreme Court used to stop the vote counting in 2000?
Like the rule of law that Texas used to enact a de facto ban on abortions?
Like the rule of law that put 11 Whites & 1 Black on the Arbery jury, in a region with 26% African Americans?
Like the rule of law that almost allowed martial law to take hold, so that TFG could illegally overturn the election?
Like the rule of law that's giving out ticky tack sentences for storming the Capitol?
Perhaps the bottom line is that the rule of law benefits the evil quite well. And perhaps the rule of law is already dead in America, for all intents and purposes.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,121 posts)You just want the trains running on time.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)If you don't see that, there's nothing I can say that will change your mind.
I tell you who is looking forward to the Constitution being rendered completely meaningless. The repub party. Then we can all wax nostalgic about this Constitution that once existed.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,121 posts)CivicGrief
(147 posts)gab13by13
(21,461 posts)suggested violating the Constitution. The biggest threat to our democracy right now, IMO, is Democrats who don't understand how serious the situation is.
Let me ask you a question. Bannon wasn't in the Trump administration he flouted the law, blatantly. What the fuck is taking so long to make a decision on that? You are aware that the GQP strategy isn't to win cases, it is to delay them until the get their gerrymandered House back in their control and get their GQP plants to count the votes for Senators. What don't you get about that. If we lose the House and or Senate we have lost one branch of government.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,121 posts)And here's A hint, he'll invoke the fifth when he's arrested. If he hasn't already.
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)I never expected that Bannon would testify, what I did expect that he would be held accountable for BREAKING THE LAW.
There are legal ways to punish Bannon if he plans to invoke the 5th.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Some people will never get it. They don't understand what is really at stake here.
Silent3
(15,417 posts)Bannon's violation of the subpoena is clear and unambiguous. What we are seeing is gutless timidity hiding behind a deliberately stalled process.
The only process Bannon is due is the trial that would occur AFTER charges are pressed.
The US Constitution says not one goddamned thing about a requirement to spend months or years double, triple, and quadruple checking that you've given a citizen the absolute maximum benefit of the doubt that a charge brought against them is airtight before the citizen is brought to trial.
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)Garland is following the GQP playbook, delay.
triron
(22,028 posts)Silent3
(15,417 posts)Bannon's violation of the subpoena is clear and unambiguous. None of us would receive so much foot-dragging "process" before being charged. This is gutless timidity hiding behind a deliberately stalled process.
ffr
(22,675 posts)... then-President Reagans prosecutors immediately brought the matter to a grand jury; it returned an indictment just nine days after the House vote.
9 days! WTF!!!
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)isn't as important. What is also scary, I wouldn't put it passed our Nazi SC to side with Bannon which would neuter Congressional investigations and eliminate our democratic checks and balances. Trump and his oligarch Nazi pals only want a dictator and Nazi packed courts. No one had better laugh at that suggestion because that is exactly where we are headed.
Stinky The Clown
(67,832 posts). . . . they install a Nazi dictator. The courts would literally be for show, not justice.
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)where is your evidence. I never ever suggested that Democrats violate the Constitution, stop spreading that.
PortTack
(32,813 posts)They do not want to lose their power and be beholden to a tin pot dictator.
triron
(22,028 posts)gab13by13
(21,461 posts)Thank You! What don't these people get? Garland is dragging his feet which is the GQP strategy - Delay.
Stinky The Clown
(67,832 posts)The House could have arrested and held him. They chose not to.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)gab13by13
(21,461 posts)who would have thought that Garland would take so long to decide on a cut and dried case.
Girard442
(6,087 posts)...tomorrow's weather flawlessly, 100% of the time, but -- it takes 48 hours to arrive at an answer.
Useless.
If Garland doesn't get some kind of results soon, the ship of state will sink like a stone.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,121 posts)Bannon testifying? Or Bannon in jail?
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Honestly, I think he would go to jail if need be, but I just don't see him testifying.
But for now, he's laughing every minute of every day, and living it up with his media gig, where he gets to make things worse by spewing his tripe. I don't blame him, I'd be laughing too, at the worthless piece of paper in the form of a "subpoena."
Fuck, when I missed jury duty, I immediately got a notice of how a warrant would be out for my arrest if I failed to comply. FOR JURY SERVICE!
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)Why should future people who are subpoenaed show up? They look and see that nothing is being done to Bannon.
BigMin28
(1,186 posts)Win back the House in 2022, the 1/6 committee ends. I am all for due process, but the clock is ticking.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,121 posts)Then say they care about due process.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Whatever.....I'm done here. Like the OP, I need to take a break from all the happy talk on DU, about how everything will work out in the end, and to just be patient. Buh bye.
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)No one has suggested that Democrats violate the Constitution.
Dave says
(4,633 posts)But if the committee decides to do that (and they should have weeks ago), the arrest is likely to be a media spectacle. Warn me so I can do up some popcorn.
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)it will enable us to control the narrative where it belongs, on an ongoing coup. Our worst enemies are Democrats who are complacent, who don't realize the dire situation our country is in. Pull out all of the stops. LEGAL STOPS.
Polybius
(15,514 posts)Garland is too nice and passive.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It seems there were times when day to day work could not get done. And there were tons of retirement parties.
So it may be tough to get the DOJ up and running as normal. Many of the agencies were said to be a total mess when the new people came in back in January.
Its way past time for us to use the perfectly legal inherent contempt authority that the House possesses.
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)but his prosecution wasn't controversial. No one took McVeigh's side, he killed children in a day care center.
Boomerproud
(7,974 posts)on CNN site. Liberal media bias indeed. 🤬
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)but I do know that Mike Lee, (R) Senator from Utah picked him for SC and president Obama agreed.
gab13by13
(21,461 posts)because they wouldn't break the law.
All I am asking is that Garland be fired for being incompetent, not up to the job. If my boss tells me to sweep that sidewalk and 2 hours later he comes back and I'm just standing there. I tell my boss I need to study the best way to approach the job. I deserve to be fired.
Not Sweeping the sidewalk is similar to blatantly not showing up for a subpoena.
Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)gab13by13
(21,461 posts)I said he should be. What is your opinion?
doc03
(35,407 posts)gab13by13
(21,461 posts)maybe the next time I do a thread like this I will start off with an animal video, they seem to make the Trending now and greatest threads.