Infrastructure Bill Must be a BFD, since folks are calling for Garland's sacking

[MineralMan]

and claiming that the BBB has no possible chance to pass now. Anything to deflect from a major victory with the Infrastructure vote.

If anything good happens, we are sure to hear about all of the bad things that will inevitably happen. Some cannot simply celebrate a victory. They have to attempt to minimize it and point out all of the things that have yet to be done.

It's frustrating...to say the least.

[malaise]

1. ROFL

Still I want Bannon locked up

[MineralMan]

3. Absolutely. We all do, along with numerous others.

Meanwhile, the work of a nation goes on, but now without TFG taking up space in the White House. He's now in the Shite House.

The new Republican Governor in Virginia had to very carefully avoid his connection to TFG in his campaign and use diversionary tactics to take people's minds off that connection.

[malaise]

7. Contempt of Congress must have consequences

There will be lots of other arrests once the Committee is finished the investigations. I'd bet the farm on that.

[MineralMan]

9. Yes. I believe so, too.

[True Blue American]

50. Agree!

It is just getting started.

[DFW]

10. He might also be trying very hard to smooth over two of the votes he got

Namely the two cast for him by his 17 year old son.

At least we now know one Republican governor who will NOT be calling for mandatory ten year jail sentences for those who commit voter fraud.....

[MineralMan]

12. Well, nothing will come of that, I'm sure. He didn't vote.

He tried and was turned away - twice. There won't be any prosecution, I'm sure. A "youthful overzealous error," see...

[DFW]

16. The proper Republican term is....

"Youthful indiscretions."

As immortalized by Henry Hyde.

[madaboutharry]

2. It's the glass half empty world view.

A lot of people are that way. It is a tough habit to break.

I am with you MineralMan, yesterday was a great day.

[MineralMan]

6. You're right, of course. It's just interesting that any good news

brings out thread after thread of doom and gloom right behind it. At least I find that interesting.

[Ocelot II]

13. We didn't get the ponies we thought we were promised.

[MineralMan]

15. Not soon enough, anyhow. I think they're still in a shipping container

somewhere.

[bluewater]

24. What is the point of such snide comments on DU, a safe space for ALL Democrats.

Ocelot II (96,628 posts)

13. We didn't get the ponies we thought we were promised.

MineralMan

15. Not soon enough, anyhow. I think they're still in a shipping container
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somewhere.

This rudeness directed at an unspecified group of fellow Democrats is at best gloating and at worst divisive and totally out of place on DU.

[mcar]

37. But "conservaDems" and "corporate Dems" is OK?

I see that here all the time.

[bluewater]

54. I hope you call out the specific poster when they use those terms.

Even more so if they are not calling a specific individual those terms, but broad brushing unspecified posters here on DU.

Discussion and even arguments about specific individuals is, of course, a routine part of being on a political forum.

Best regards,

[qazplm135]

60. But they did it first!!

Really?

[True Blue American]

52. I am seeing much more of that lately.

I am just happy the economy is turning around so fast. We have the infrastructure bill I am about ready to sing,” “ Happy Days are here again.

Not willing to read downers. This is a time to cheer!

[qazplm135]

32. You seem more interested

In punching hippies then unity.

[bluewater]

34. "more interested in punching hippies than unity"

pithy and amusing.

Well said.

[Cha]

38. No he doesn't.. he's

saying exactly what's been happening.

Those Downers spreading their Negativity are Divisive.

[PortTack]

43. Exactly!!

[Cha]

49. TY..

[gab13by13]

48. What negativity?

Be specific so that I can respond to it. Are you talking about negativity towards Merrick Garland? If so I would like to know your opinion of his performance? Do you agree that Garland is doing a fantastic job, OK job, poor job? I can eliminate poor job because with the rationale of this thread, just because the infrastructure bill passed Democrats are not allowed to speak negatively about any other issue. If that is the case is there a time limit that we can say anything negative in the future?

[True Blue American]

53. Well, Cha, now that you are here

P Everything OK? I have not seen much of you lately.

You going to help me cheer?

[Cha]

59. Hey Aloha TBA!

I was off the radar awhile.. apparently needed a break .. it feels good to be back!

[True Blue American]

69. Isn't it amazing what a couple of days can make? The pundits who want the best

For us we’re absolutely giddy this morning. They were laughing, really happy.

With the big jobs numbers President was relaxed, kidding with Reporters.

I was wondering about the lava, see what a terrible tole it is taking.

Be safe.

[qazplm135]

58. And mocking

Stops negativity how?

[Cha]

64. No.. calling out the obvious. . and I'm

grateful to see it.

[qazplm135]

66. How is mocking derision

Calling out?

And why are you so concerned about it a day after the bill was signed?

[Cha]

75. Also grateful that the OP & I

aren't the only ones who are beyond tired of all the negativity about something good that happened for Democrats.. the Democratic Party!

[qazplm135]

76. Progressives

Are part of that party.

[Hortensis]

74. :) Makes me think of some kind of adult oppositional disorder,

flares triggered by good news for the Democratic Party. (NOT an actual term for whatever's behind these recurrent phenomena, of course.)

But for some on both left and right, a need to oppose the power group and have their own competing oppositional ideology and leaders seems defining. It must indicate something that every acting out is loudly admired, whether it accomplishes anything or not.

Of course populists are very similar, probably lots of overlap, but guessing those're much less likely to be satisfied with noise without damage.

In any case, midterms, anyone? The reaction to merely the threat of passing these landmark bills reminds me of that, as the midterms approach, anxiety that we may do well will be inevitable. Who doesn't remember last time?

[bigtree]

65. what MM wants is sacrosanct

...all else, 'ponies.'

[AZSkiffyGeek]

17. We thought we were promised sums it up

Because when BBB passes the complaint will be it didn’t include M4A and GND.

[AZProgressive]

71. The 3.5T reconciliation bill

Was the compromise for many progressives because it didn’t include M4A but it actually is very good on the climate.

I supported both bills from the beginning but it seems those whittling the BBB bill aren’t negotiating in good faith especially if it doesn’t pass.

The BIF privatizes some things and parts of it are bad for the environment so it needed the climate parts of the BBB to pass. There is a reason Republicans supported the other bill.

[PatSeg]

67. Reminds me of Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh

Gloomy and pessimistic, never seeing the bright side in any circumstance.

[FreepFryer]

4. NatteringNabobOps is a bitch. But our eyes are on the prize... survival of American democracy. (Nt)

[sanatanadharma]

26. Spiro Agnew was projecting the future of center-right America

When Spiro Agnew spoke of “nattering nabobs of negativism” he was projecting the future of the delusional 21st century republican tribe.
A tribe led by those who are best at (being):

Nattering: babbling, gabbing, gassing, jabbering, prattling, twittering
Nabobs: big boys, big cheeses, big shots, bigwigs, fat cats, heavies, nawabs, pooh-bahs
Negativism: adversarial, antagonistic, hostile, inimical, jaundiced, unfriendly, unsympathetic, argumentative, belligerent

(Miriam Webster Thesaurus)

[DFW]

5. Next thing you know......

Someone's plane is going to be late, and they will be calling for Buttigieg's head, too.

[Hekate]

11. Imdeed

[CentralMass]

14. This comprise infrastructure bill is one Mitch McConnell approves

It is the GOP getting their way with the Democrats in charge once again. So is it good they passed something , yes, however were in not for Sinema and Manchin demands they could have passed a more aggressive bill.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

18. If not for Sinema we'd have nothing

She got this bill passed in the Senate.

[AZProgressive]

72. I'm looking forward to the 2024 primary

She polls badly head to head against any of the candidates and loses in a five way race. Gallego polls the best but will not forgive Sinema for whittling the BBB and not negotiating in good faith.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

73. I've seen credible speculation she goes Independent

Avoids the primary bruising and depending on the Republican, can probably win that way. She’s unpopular enough to lose a primary, but maybe not enough to lose a 3-way race.

[bluewater]

19. Another thread spreading a vague but divisive message?

Infrastructure Bill Must be a BFD, since folks are calling for Garland's sacking
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and claiming that the BBB has no possible chance to pass now. Anything to deflect from a major victory with the Infrastructure vote.

If anything good happens, we are sure to hear about all of the bad things that will inevitably happen. Some cannot simply celebrate a victory. They have to attempt to minimize it and point out all of the things that have yet to be done.

It's frustrating...to say the least.

Seems so.



Broad brushed and vague charges like these targeting unspecified "folks" just serves to insult, intentionally or not, and divide fellow Democrats here on DU, a forum that is supposed to be a safe space for ALL Democrats.

If people voice concerns that anyone disagrees with, the appropriate thing would be to respond directly to those posts, not to start vague and broad brushed threads like this.

Just my extremely reasonable and considerate opinion. lol

[Nokillmessanger]

22. Yeah (Agreeing with Bluewater)

What is the point of the original post? I pay attention, but I am not sure what your point is.

[MadameButterfly]

33. please talk me out of my worries

I'm concerned that the BBB bill won't pass now that the first bill is a fait accomplit. It isn't about complaining or glass half full or trashing Dems. It just seems to me that Manchin got what he wanted, so why would he sign BBB now? I would love somebody to talk me out of this position. No snide comments here. I'm sincere. Thanks Bluewater.

[PortTack]

45. When asked about the BBB Sen Dick Durbin said he was unsure if manchin would vote for it now.

And, he may not.

I think our leaders were seeing the handwriting on the wall with manchin continuing to stall, so they decided to move with this stand alone bill..JMHO!

[yaesu]

39. I agree with your extremely reasonable and considerate opinion. nt

[bluewater]

47. LOL I thought it was good play on words...

riffing off the "my considered opinion" phrase.

Self-promoting myself as the voice of reason and polite adult in the room.

Man, I am the wordsmith, baby!

lol

[True Blue American]

56. Thank you, thank you!

[qazplm135]

20. Maybe just like

Starting a thread complaining about other threads a day after the bill is passed?

[bluewater]

23. Exactly! And what is the point of the snide comments?

Honestly.

Ocelot II (96,628 posts)

13. We didn't get the ponies we thought we were promised.


MineralMan (140,029 posts)

15. Not soon enough, anyhow. I think they're still in a shipping container

somewhere.

[bluewater]

44. ikr

[Demsrule86]

21. Kick ...

[Autumn]

25. I would think you would be happy it passed instead of complaining about other people's opinions

and disappointments. Was Garland a yes or no vote on the bill and how on earth did he have anything to do with it? Or is this just a compilation of complaints?

Disclaimer: I agree with the opinion Garland should be gotten rid of.

[iemanja]

27. I don't understand the connection

between Garland and the infrastructure bill. Can you explain it to me?

[bluewater]

28. An attempt at wittiness made while in an off mood?

Perhaps.

[bigtree]

61. he's digging at progressives

[gab13by13]

68. I missed that, now it makes sense.

[msfiddlestix]

29. I'm so glad I missed all of that. I don't see how Garland factors into these bills

but hell. I'd like to see Garland step aside, and let someone with what it takes to see to it that justice prevails, but what the hell the DOJ has to do with the Infrastructure Bill is a bit confusing to me.

I'm particularly happy that the bill got passed. No, let's say I'm really jazzed and a little more optimistic than I was a few days ago.

Personally, I'm savoring the joy for as long as I can make it last.

Not watching the news, gonna practice for a music gathering tomorrow with Vaxxed musicians in my community. And happy to be able to join them with good news flowing through my bow.

[Lucinda]

30. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[mcar]

31. More gloom and doom here today

than before the Bill got passed.

[IronLionZion]

35. The jackbooted heel of socialism crushed my freedoms and killed jobs

I got better

[CrackityJones75]

40. Hear Hear MM!

[yaesu]

41. I will be happy when the vast majority of bills passed helps the working class instead of the other

way around which has been the case for decades, hell, I would even settle for 51%.

[mrsadm]

42. Where are these comments? I have not seen any today.

[gab13by13]

46. I enjoy your posts MM, this headline isn't one of my favorites.

What does Merrick Garland have to do with the infrastructure bill? Not a damn thing. 3 months ago I was on the side of progressives as was Speaker Pelosi to keep the 2 Bills tied together. Manchin and Sinema screwed that plan up. So Speaker Pelosi and I agreed with her changed her position, president Biden needed a win badly. The Senate had already passed the infrastructure bill, the hard work was done. Progressive Democrats put their aspirations on a back burner and voted for country.

The infrastructure bill is a BFD. Merrick Garland needs to be fired. I hail the passing of the infrastructure bill. The insurrection is still growing with no big name seditionists held accountable yet.

Democrats who minimize the serious situation our democracy is in right now are the problem, they are whistling past the graveyard.

We need more Democrats to push Garland to act, instead we get chastised.

[bigtree]

51. look at you castigating Democrats for worrying over a bill that doesn't have enough support

...namely Manchin's, for one.

It's entirely possible to 'celebrate' the passage of one bill, and worry over another.

This is an unnecessary slam on good people here who aren't required to wait a day to defend the next plank of Biden's agenda. I guarantee the bill's detractors aren't taking a day off.

And you've conflated all of these people into your little box of bias. This is rancid.

What's outrageous about this is how you, yourself, took time out to poke at progressives this afternoon in another thread. Now you come on like you're inviolable and without guile. You found a little wedge to dig at progressives, and now you want comity?

What a joke. This is just another slam on progressive members here.

[bluewater]

63. +1000

Well said.

[Vinca]

55. I haven't mentioned Garland in days, but now that you bring him up . . . WTF?

He seems like a mouse who is too timid to come out of his hole. I thought after 4 years of unaccountability we might finally see some. It's been nearly a year for heaven's sake. That doesn't mean I'm not happy about the infrastructure bill.

[ShazzieB]

57. I'm sick of the gloom and doom, and I ❤ this post!

Unfortunately, some of the gloom and doom crowd aren't going to appreciate this. But that's okay. I don't appreciate their 🌧 on every parade that anyone tries to start here, either.

I've come to the conclusion that some are not going to be happy until and unless everybody in the federal government starts following their personal orders, and we know when that's going to happen. (Hint: It involves very cold temperatures in a place that is normally extremely hot.)

Posts like this are always welcome, because they remind me that not everyone here is always staring at a half full glass and claiming it's half empty.

[Cha]

77. +1!

[Just_Vote_Dem]

70. We got Infrastructure and we're gonna get BBB n/t

[jcgoldie]

78. well this was certainly a celebratory post...