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AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
2. Interesting way of negotiating
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:44 PM
Nov 2021

Attack fellow Democrats whose vote you need… it’s worked so well so far.

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
3. People who are not acting in good faith deserve all the criticism they receive.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:46 PM
Nov 2021

I'm not a fan of hypocrites and liars but maybe you feel differently.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
4. You mean people who won't vote for the presidents agenda?
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:47 PM
Nov 2021

The six in the House? Or the one who has a 100% record with the President?

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
10. Yes, it is unreasonable considering they completely ignored the CBO for BIF and the JCT's BBB score.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:55 PM
Nov 2021

Guess what the JCT ruled for BBB? It was fully paid for unlike the ~$250B added to the debt with BIF. They are not being genuine about their deficit concerns for BBB.

Uncle Joe

(65,137 posts)
5. I believe at this point
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:48 PM
Nov 2021

the entire gamut has been tried but as they said in the Vietnam movie Hamburger Hill, "It don't mean nothing."

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
7. Not siccing your Twitter following on them
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:51 PM
Nov 2021

To chase them in bathrooms, pound on their cars, grab them in airports. That might work.

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
9. It was only a matter of time before the name calling started.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:54 PM
Nov 2021

Is Nancy a conservative Democrat? Is Jayapal? Is Joe Biden?

Just stop the infighting please!

Uncle Joe

(65,137 posts)
11. I don't believe ANYTHING will work, anything reasonable for the average American.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 05:00 PM
Nov 2021

If the BBB were to stroke mega-corporations and oligarchs I'm sure they would be highly enthusiastic.

Personally I'm not for chasing anyone into a bathroom or pounding on their car, I believe that's counter productive however insofar as messaging in real time, ie: Twitter to the American People, I would never give that up.

Simply put, the First Amendment is the greatest power we have in holding our political leaders and lesser politicians to account and it's the best way to keep a running tab on history.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
13. Twitter is good but easily manipulated and weaponized
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 05:06 PM
Nov 2021

Falsehoods spread like wildfire, context and nuance are often missing, and it’s very easy to set a mob on people.
I love Twitter, but I also kinda hate it.

Uncle Joe

(65,137 posts)
14. I have a similar view of the corporate media.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 05:09 PM
Nov 2021

Information is power and it can be constructive or destructive, just as fire.

luv2fly

(2,673 posts)
15. Damn right Bernie!
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 05:14 PM
Nov 2021

Progressives have done more to advance Joe Biden's agenda than "those other two" have. Let's not forget it.

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