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https://www.politicususa.com/2021/11/06/legal-advocates-call-for-merrick-garland-to-resign-for-not-prosecuting-trump.htmlPosted on Sat, Nov 6th, 2021 by Jason Easley
Legal Advocates Call For Merrick Garland To Resign For Not Prosecuting Trump
The non-partisan legal advocacy group Free Speech For People is calling on Attorney General Merrick Garland to resign because Trump has not been prosecuted.
Group Calls For Merrick Garland To Resign
The group Free Speech For People wrote in part in a statement provided to PoliticusUSA:
Meanwhile, DOJ inexcusably sat on its hands since a bipartisan majority of the House of Representatives voted on October 21 to hold Steve Bannon in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena from the January 6 committee. The last time that the House referred a contempt of Congress charge to DOJ, then-President Reagans prosecutors immediately brought the matter to a grand jury; it returned an indictment just nine days after the House vote.
Furthermore, Garlands failures have not been limited to inaction. He has actively defended or continued many Trump-era DOJ policies, including the coverup of the key DOJ legal memo regarding Trumps obstruction of justice, and defending Trumps libel of a rape victim by claiming that he did so within the scope of his office as President of the United States.
For all these reasons, Garland is no longer fit to serve as Attorney General. His previous record of federal service should not blind us to the fact that he is simply the wrong person for this job at this time. Perhaps he can still contribute to the country in other ways. But as long as Trump and his co-conspirators walk free, American democracy is in danger. We need an Attorney General who understands that danger and is willing to take action to protect democracy and the rule of law. Merrick Garland must resign.
The Justice Departments slow reaction to the referral of Steve Bannon for criminal prosecution is harming the 1/6 Committees investigation and giving a green light to coup plotters to refuse to cooperate.
Merrick Garland is by all accounts a good person, but there are concerns that he has been away from DOJ for too long, and the Justice Department that he remembers is not the same as the broken department in desperate need of reform and repair that he is running now.
Patience on the left is wearing thin with the Attorney General, and for every good move that he has made to protect voting rights, the elephant in the room is Trump and the DOJs lack of action in response to the 1/6 attack.
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no_hypocrisy
(46,705 posts)or hes been threatened.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And Id look into who is doing the threatening. And who they follow.
RainCaster
(11,047 posts)I hear they even do some investigative work from time to time.
BlancheSplanchnik
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diverdownjt
(706 posts)the DOJ is a giant nest of gandarks....left over from it...Appoint a special prosecutor....do it now.
It will show the world you're moving in the right direction.
wnylib
(22,275 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)brooklynite
(95,635 posts)In which case you should be telling President aBiden to fire him.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Some things require this. I get that.
Other things require expediency and pragmatism.
littlemissmartypants
(23,233 posts)Intimate knowledge of the rules and procedures that dictate how one operates, above reproach, in all things USA Justice.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Grasswire2
(13,589 posts)Your opinion is valid. So is mine. We are rank and file voters and our voices and our votes count.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)his ass is quite well, and we won't have a case...conspiracy is very difficult to prove. And if Garland prosecuted Trump and he got off, it would be awful. I would wager that there will always be one person on any jury who likes Trump and won't vote to convict. I would add that Trump losing the election was the worst punishment anyone could have inflicted on Trump. And do we really want a world where every outgoing president is prosecuted? I expect every president in the future to be impeached if they don't hold the House and that is bad enough.
usaf-vet
(6,389 posts)His testimony in Congress was very disappointing. I believe he likely was in the early stages of dementia.
That is not meant to belittle him. That could easily have explained his lack of grasping and answering questions.
Maybe Garland isn't the sharp legal mind he once was. That again is no fault of his.
But I agree with the post. We NEED an aggressive AG. Trump and his co-conspirators need to be held accountable.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)usaf-vet
(6,389 posts)Remember Ronnie Raygun was suffering from dementia at the end of his term. His close supporters covered it up.
Mueller was visibly confused during the hearing and had to turn to his staff for clarification. This confusion and lackluster performance were noted in Adam Schiff's new book Midnight In Washington.
Whether or not either Meuller or Reagan has or had mental decline is still an open question. Close supporters, in either case, would likely participate in covering up a mental decline. It is hardly something they would confirm which would cast doubt on the work of their bosses.
And let's not forget the Republicans don't miss any opportunity to call President Biden "sleepy Joe" intentionally casting doubt on his ability to be an effective President.
Only the history books will hopefully detail the actual truths.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)"Had I known how much he had changed, I would not have pursued his testimony with such vigor in fact, I would not have pursued it at all," Schiff wrote in his upcoming book Midnight in Washington, according to CNN.
Schiff, a California Democrat who became a liberal champion during the first impeachment probe and an enemy to conservatives who parroted Trump's rebuff of a "Russia hoax," admitted that he instructed Democrats on the committee to simplify their questioning strategy after the first session to accommodate Mueller's cognitive inhibitions.
"No questions calling for a narrative answer," Schiff told the committee, according to his book. "No multipart questions. If you think your question may be too long, it is. Cut it down."
soldierant
(7,175 posts)he had many years of experience as a prosecutor, and many successful RICO prosecutions to his credit.
PSPS
(13,709 posts)gab13by13
(22,072 posts)Trending Now, or Greatest Hits. Maybe if an animal video pretexts it?
gab13by13
(22,072 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,803 posts)You had a point.
Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)but I don't see Garland doing anything about it and it is time he is removed from his post and DU start acknowledging the guy is not doing the people's work of holding criminals accountable.
Even Glenn Kirshner has been very vocal about it, and if I am not mistaken, he and Garland have known each other for some time and have or used to hold some mutual respect which I have to suspect Garland has been lowered in the eyes of Kirshner.
The prosecution of all these criminals is paramount to hold the Democracy of this country, I fear that if it doesn't happen this will become a 3rd World country in no time.
We already had Colin Powell betray the country and the World and now being held as a hero, Muller report is still not out there and no one complains and let me say that Muller was a complete disappointment, and now Garland doing nothing...I have said it many times, this is going from bad to worst, anyone who thinks that a totalitarian regime cannot take hold of the USA is not paying attention to what has happened in other parts of the World, we are at the verge of it happening here. Wake up America!
BigmanPigman
(51,821 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)stations attack the people who we want to do the right thing. that's what limbaugh did all day since TFGs inauguration - there was 10 months of 'liberal deep state' russia-hoax bullshit before the the hyped up social media Q-anon version started showing up on social media in Nov 2017.
look at all the hype around the 4 seasons documentary - no one noticed that the giuliani powell press conference was timed to start concurrently with the limbaugh show and limbaugh had the script and was attacking dominion and smartmatic and their employees at the same time
we allow that republican radio buzz dominate most of america and let a few hundred assholes on the radio take free potshots at the people we want to do right and then wonder why they don't stick their heads out. and while they're doing that they have time to pollute the amhaud aurbury trial - like they did for treyvon martin , mike brown, etc
until americans recognize and end the RW radio bullshit forget progress and reform
JohnSJ
(92,762 posts)the contempt of Congress against Bannon
However, I take exception with your characterization of DU being "chock full of Garland apologists"
What I observe is equal voicing of views on Garland here. To characterize someone as being an apologist is blatantly unfair. People can express various views without being characterized as an apologist for someone.
babylonsister
(171,208 posts)as long as they don't veer into rethug, tin foil terrority. Those folks are nuts!
JohnSJ
(92,762 posts)leftstreet
(36,128 posts)jalan48
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SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)Everything old is new again.
CrispyQ
(36,807 posts)Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)Evolve Dammit
(17,109 posts)marble falls
(58,798 posts)... "I'm bored. Let's prosecute 45."
"Sounds like fun, it'll piss him off."
"I'll get the rope."
stopdiggin
(11,624 posts)gab13by13
(22,072 posts)agingdem
(7,953 posts)so much of Trump's crap is in the hands of grand juries, state and federal courts..and the 1/6 House committee...that has to play out...if Garland goes after Trump now all the ongoing investigations could get tainted...Garland has one "shot" at Trump...all evidence has to be irrefutable...I'm willing to give him a couple of more months before I call for his head...
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agingdem
(7,953 posts)the Willard Hotel, funding the insurrection for starters...yes, he can be tried for every crime but which one in particular stands above them all, and will, with absolute certainty, take down that monster...that's Garland's one shot...
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agingdem
(7,953 posts)after that Garland has to get out of the way and Sally Yates or Preet Bharara takes over...
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msfiddlestix
(7,302 posts)Love to have them as a team. Unfortunately, that's not ever going to happen.
Fantasy island is where I want to be.
marble falls
(58,798 posts)... are at it and have been since last year.
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Evolve Dammit
(17,109 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,803 posts)Seems like the DOJ is confused about what Justice being blind is actually supposed to mean.
Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)We need to stop excusing these people, they are simply not doing their job, or what their job description demands. We had our hopes up with Muller, and see what happened, now that Garland is at the head of the DOJ, why is it that the Muller report has not been made available, unredacted?
This "rule of law" and "no one is above the law" is becoming a joke because of these people. Bannon should be in jail by now, why hasn't Garland put him in jail?
DENVERPOPS
(9,121 posts)As I watch Garland, I am getting the same feeling I developed about Mueller.........
With Mueller, I had the feeling that he could have been a lot more aggressive, given the information/facts that he was privy too.
I noted that Mueller was a life time Republican, and a good man. But in the back of my mind, I felt that Mueller realized that if the presented things that he should have revealed, he realized that the information he discovered could have easily brought down the ENTIRE Republican party.
And that, he was unwilling to do, considering his life time devotion to being a good Republican......
In reality, I have no idea how things are progressing or why........I just hope that they know what they are doing.
I still feel, that on any given day, that all hell could break loose. ANY DAY.........And we won't even see the 2022 or 2024 elections.
It truly seems to me, that we continue to see the Right Wing marching forward, despite all efforts to at least stop the progression.
BTW: This all did not just happen these past few years......Some of us have been screaming from the roof tops since a few months before Reagan's corrupt "installation"......
And now, we are one millimeter away from a Corporate Fascist Tyranny, nicely worded as an "Authoritarian Government".......
Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)high level corruption started there.
I am convinced the republican party has never been good, the only time it was is when Theodore Roosevelt was part of it, but he was a progressive which is why the rest of the republicans hated him, he was just too popular with the citizens and there was nothing the corrupt republicans could do about it, although at the end they prevailed.
Muller, or anyone who sides with a political party against their country is NOT a "good man", Colin Powell was not a good man because he betrayed his country and the World, he lied in order to help his party with the madness that was the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, he knew those tubes were not fit to make WMD, but he decided to lie anyway. If Muller put party over country then he is also a traitor. No one's passport says "Born in the Republican/Democratic party", it says "Born in the United States of America" that is where loyalty must always be, to the country, to your fellowman. I also place Rod Rosenstein in the list of traitors, he played his role as an honest man and fooled as all, he ended up kissing trump's butt, and he is also responsible for not allowing the Muller report to be made public.
The fact is that we are surrounded by traitors who want to fool us all of their lack of patriotism by placing a flag on the lapel of their coats and through their rhetoric. Until people don't wake up and do like Rachel Maddow has said many times "Don't believe what they say, watch what they do.", corruption will only escalate, and the fear of those in power to do the right things will continue because the criminals will be around to threaten them.
Today's republican party is packed with traitors, many of them will fall on their faces because totalitarian regimes don't even forgive those who helped them get there. Once a totalitarian leader gets in power he/she becomes paranoid and anyone they may suspect of will be taken out, it happens in every totalitarian regime, there is no exception. Same is going to happen with the billionaires who are willing to help the totalitarian's cause, they will loose everything, only a chosen few will survive but live in constant fear knowing that their day can come anytime, one day they will wake up to find the squad picking them up.
DENVERPOPS
(9,121 posts)all excellent points............
Colin Powell should have been drummed out when he and others in the military tried to institute and pull off a massive cover up of the Mai Lai massacre by a group of U.S. soldiers.
Powell so much wanted to be in the White Boys Club, he sacrificed all his Morals to testify to crap he damn well knew was crap.
His testifying made a major difference in many people deciding to back the Iraq War............Not a lot unlike Comey's? spewing bull shit about Hillary's emails two weeks before the election........
And now, we have a major portion of all Politicians, willing and knowingly lying about everything, to not lose their coveted political position, money, and status...........
The CNN documentary: "Trumping Democracy", documented with pictures and video just how far Trump and Republicans went to create the mob violence of Jan 6th. If they had succeeded, all Republican House and Senate members who hadn't backed Trump would be dead, along with ALL the Dem politicians in both houses, and even Pence...........
triron
(22,111 posts)Evolve Dammit
(17,109 posts)DENVERPOPS
(9,121 posts)What was Merry Fitzmas??????
Evolve Dammit
(17,109 posts)wnylib
(22,275 posts)Garland cannot get rid of him. Only Biden can.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)live love laugh
(13,394 posts)The entire federal govt. is loaded with Republicans who represent nothing more than cogs in the wheels.
uponit7771
(90,437 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)... but give it some time!
triron
(22,111 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)The truth is Garland, so far, is a failure.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)skydive forever
(449 posts)But now its been too long. As the old saying goes, sh!t or get off the pot.
triron
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DENVERPOPS
(9,121 posts)Lead, Follow, or just get the hell out of the way............................
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)things that should have been done by now. Also, Barr, for example, screamed what was going on, but all I hear is pretty much silence. It makes me feel like we are not fighting, and the whole world is watching/listening. The optics are NOT good at all.
stopdiggin
(11,624 posts)Certainly have a right to express (their own) disapproval and censure. I'm just kind of wondering where this 'opinion' comes to rest in the wider legal community?
I've found Garland's performance to be a little bit of a mixed bag ... And I'm not so sure (given the volatility and flux of the current environs) - that isn't something of a reasonable expectation?
George II
(67,782 posts)...telegraphing his future moves to the press. (my comment isn't directed to you)
That's how Attorneys General operate.
The DOJ has a page where they list indictments and charges. It's pretty long and there have been several just about every day.
Here's just a sampling for the Capitol Breach Cases:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
stopdiggin
(11,624 posts)and not give offense. But I think the purpose of the OP is fairly transparent. They want the guy 'out' - and the more noise the better.
Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)and the attorney general were a republican, Bannon would have been in jail in less than 9 days...Nope, Garland so far is failing to enforce the so called "rule of law" while throwing down the trash the "no one is above the law"...I hate to repeat myself, but that is exactly what is happening and the result of this will be apathy to vote for Democrats, Virginia is a sample.
CrispyQ
(36,807 posts)And if they can get voter legislation passed. Yes dems, thank you for the infrastructure bill. Thank you for the Covid relief. Thank you for getting the vaccination program off the ground. But FFS, go after Trump.
Garland has some time, but not very much. There better be some action by next spring/summer or turnout in fall will suck. If we lose one chamber no legislation will pass. If the house goes, McCarthy will impeach, I'd bet on it. If the senate goes, there will be no more judicial appointments. I just don't get the sense that our party is taking this as seriously as they should be.
Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)Anyone with legal authority can issue subpoenas, but enforcing them is another issue the DOJ must take care of and so far the subpoenas that have been issued have also been ignored, so what good is it to subpoena someone when they are going to ignore it?
Traffic tickets are better enforced that subpoenas nowadays...Garland is failing if he doesn't, and has not, enforce the subpoenas, Bannon must be in jail next week or Garland must be removed.
live love laugh
(13,394 posts)Sympthsical
(9,238 posts)I wouldn't call them "non-partisan". Basically just a group on the Left that formed in reaction to Citizens United. Which is good. But people who wanted impeachment on Trump's first day in office are not non-partisan, lol.
bluesbassman
(19,428 posts)Before the Garland apologists chime in with you dont know what hes doing, Ill concede that point. However, if he is in fact doing something, and the apologists will have to concede there is precious little evidence he is, the hard truth is that hes running out of time. Were close to the election cycle window where the DOJ will refuse to bring charges because it could influence the election, and be perceived as purely political. Hes basically painting himself in a corner.
JudyM
(29,406 posts)theyre bassing it on, bluesman. Its certainly becoming more and more challenging to be patient.
Poiuyt
(18,154 posts)I still think Garland is taking his time so he doesn't appear to be too political. He might even decide not to prosecute Bannon for the same reason.
Of course, maybe he's playing the long game. being soft on Bannon, et al, to appear non-political so he can put the hammer down on Trump. But I don't think he's that type.
sop
(10,637 posts)I think he's looking for any excuse to not prosecute because he doesn't want to look like he's partisan.
Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)He has to know that he is running out of time, and if he doesn't he must be removed tomorrow.
Cobalt Violet
(9,906 posts)I would say yes because of this.
ratchiweenie
(7,768 posts)following in his foot steps. I understand that he does not want to set precedents that could come back to bite future Democratic presidents but it's very clear that Trump violated numerous laws and Bannon doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. What is he waiting for. He is making Congress look weak.
hadEnuf
(2,319 posts)We need a non-nonsense fighter who is going to expose and serve justice on those who tried to overthrow the US government. This isn't family court.
Mr. Ected
(9,678 posts)And to trust the process until the day the MAGAts unfurl their fascist flag over the remnants of our democracy and ensure we'll never get that opportunity again.
In other words, this is the most important act to be done in our lifetimes. Every other cause we champion will go down the drain if we allow this group to usurp political power.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)To be as big a disappointment as Holder.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,729 posts)Letting that POS Bill Barr in again was a huge mistake !
Does merrick have the heart to do the right thing ?????
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)HE SHOULD RESIGN !!
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)With no teeth. Garland makes the DOJ look weak! Not what I was hoping for! But then almost everything I hope for never happens
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)gulliver
(13,246 posts)A funny look at Starbucks
(but no coffee)
Texin
(2,603 posts)being perceived to be going after TFG because he feared there would be retaliation with future administrations. Those were his comments during the run-up to the election in 2020. He may be thinking otherwise now, and more recent statements and actions seem to bear that out.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,218 posts)Its funny reading so many posts on here with this naivety into believing that Garland is some kind of free independent prosecutor. Despite his trappings.
If people don't think that Garland was vetted by Biden and the top leadership group of the Democratic Party, on how best to move forward with prosecutions before his name was pushed forward, and they have not been in contact all the time with his department ...then I have some MyPillow stock to sell them.
Just so folks know. If there is pressure on Garland, it means Biden is also feeling it, because he's behind the curtain. Which is a good thing in the end. All the DOJ needs is a nod from the Dem leadership.
This fear of being dragged into a fight and this ongoing timidity to break precedent is going to bring on Fascism sooner rather than later. Because one side is at war, and one side is looking for small legislative compromise victories. Victories that the press won't publicize or at least promote, or will do it by asking Republican guests their opinion on it.
No, they should have gone full Def Con 1 after inauguration. Prove to the American people that they are just as fierce fighters for truth and justice, as the Republicans are fighting those things.
Because if half of eligible voters who don't or won't vote, but who hold more liberal views, and would probably vote Democratic, stay home because of apathy to politics, the other half will stay home because of the opposite. Why vote for a party that seems to have no great passion for what they claim to hold dear? And/or how bad can it really be if they seem okay with "move forward" again? This was exactly Obama's problem in the 2010 midterms.
gab13by13
(22,072 posts)suggested Garland to president Obama as his SC nominee. So yeah, I guess that Garland was vetted by Lee.
Orrex
(63,440 posts)but one has to be aware that future Republican administrations and legislators are absolutely going to retaliate against Democrats regardless, so that fear is no justification for inaction.
If Biden runs again in 2024, the Repug campaign against him will be more aggressive and organized (including by foreign parties) than anything we've seen to date, regardless of any action Biden might take against Trump.
And if Repugs take over both house of Congress in 2022, they will repeatedly pursue impeachment of Biden and Harris until both are out of office with a Repub House Speaker installed in their place.
Evolve Dammit
(17,109 posts)Orrex
(63,440 posts)And I weary of high-minded DUers scolding me for my lack of faith that "the process" (invisible to all outside observation) is proceeding steadily toward results.
It may indeed be proceeding, but at this point we have little evidence that we can expect a result in time to make a difference.
Predicting one particular high-minded DUer to arrive in 3... 2...
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)that includes the media ,too
Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)it is true, it seems that I at least have forgotten to follow through on the action from the Legal Advocates that states that Garland should resign for not prosecuting trump.
That is a big issue as well, there is so much proof of wrongdoing from him, his kids, his crooked company, his republican crooks, his taxes, his corrupt behaviour while enjoying time at the presidency...What is Garland waiting for?
THIS IS BAD people...Is Garland another Rod Rosenstein? A hypocrite doing the "leader's" chores?
C_U_L8R
(45,089 posts)This is so confounding. I can only 'hope' there are some serious prosecutions in process. At minimum, it should concern them that many Americans are losing trust and confidence in them.
Glaisne
(520 posts)What effing BS!
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,816 posts)uponit7771
(90,437 posts)... get that part out of my mind that if Bannon was named Byron and was Muslim he'd be in under the jail now
SheltieLover
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TheRickles
(2,151 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... static.
uponit7771
(90,437 posts)... what happened to them when they were scooted off to Gitmo.
The DOJ can move fast when it to (see reaction to BLM protest vs J6 attack on capital for example)
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,532 posts)First of all, by not enforcing the House January 6 Commissions subpoena on Bannon, Garland is taking away Congresss Constitutional power to hold people in the government accountable.
Second, the full Mueller Report (barring release of any real versus embarrassing national security issues) should have been released months ago.
Third, Mueller laid out evidence of the crime of obstruction of justice against Trump. Those crimes should have been prosecuted already. This lack indicates that criminal behavior by a president is acceptable and will carry no consequences.
Fourth, the DOJ has treated the January 6 insurrectionists with slaps on the wrist. The crime of insurrection carries heavy fines and multiple years of imprisonment, not a few days. The definition of insurrection seems pretty clear, and I would agree that those who never entered the Capitol did not commit insurrectionthose who did enter did so with the stated purpose of preventing Congress from certifying a fair election and thus overturning a branch of government and illegally keeping a losing president in office. How is that not insurrection?
Fifth, the DOJ seems to be relegating any investigation into the funders and planners of January 6 to Congress, yet it has so far refused to enforce subpoenas against people who refuse to testify. We do not know whether Garlands DOJ is investigating January 6, but after 10 months one might conclude that a grand jury would have been impaneled if they were. Mueller was appointed in mid-May 2017 to investigate Trumps Russian connections to the 2016 election. He impaneled a grand jury less than three months later.
Garland is a moderate, and he may well be of the same school of thought as Joe Manchin who says that bipartisanship is necessary to the functioning of government. In todays Republican world, bipartisanship and the wish to avoid being partisan just gives Republican criminals a free pass to do whatever they want, including committing crimes with impunity.
I did not believe that Garland was up for the task of rebuilding the DOJ after Barr totally politicized it, and I still hold that belief today. When Garland was last in the DOJ, Republicans did not use any means necessary to overthrow a fair election. Garlands past history may be predisposing him to inaction now.
HootieMcBoob
(3,823 posts)Hes a conservative and a member of The Frderalist Society. Thats what led Obama to believe that he could get 60 votes for him for SC. Hes dragging his feet and running out the clock. If anything happens to hold Trump or his accomplices to account I will be very surprised.
Sewa
(1,280 posts)Trump and his buds probably laugh their asses off when Garlands name is mentioned. 💀🤙
Pepsidog
(6,258 posts)severely undermined. Why would anyone ever, anywhere comply with subpoena when congressional subpoenas get ignored without consequences.
Escurumbele
(3,456 posts)Garland is either, we will see what happens, but as I said before, if Bannon is not in jail next week, Garland must go, he is obviously neither a brave or a good man. That is my harsh opinion. I really hope that I am not insulting anyone.
The disappointments we suffered from Muller and Rosenstein were, at least to me, very hard to take, I don't want another one from Garland and the way things are shaping up it seems he will join that club.
I encourage everyone to watch Glenn Kirschner's videos on the subject of Bannon still running around free, and the one about why trump is not being prosecuted when there is so much evidence out there. He too is asking the questions and starting to doubt on the resolute from Garland to do the right thing.
RDJackson
(8 posts)Re Garland.
Is it possible that , besides developing an airtight case for tRump and his MAGAts, they are taking their time, allowing more of the public more time to come to terms with a treasonous former pResident, and time it so the worst stink is still in the air for the midterms?
hadEnuf
(2,319 posts)If it were, we'd have Americans at Mar-a-laghole with torches and pitchforks.
Joinfortmill
(14,816 posts)hadEnuf
(2,319 posts)We should at the very least be getting some clear signals that these traitors are indeed going to be prosecuted, but that is not happening. Why not?
SayItLoud
(1,706 posts)If he resigns or is replaced the Maggots will have all the talking points they need going into 2022 and 24.
It matters not that TFG tried to (and succeeded) in weaponizing the DOJ.
Unless Garland acts we're in a no win situation IMO.
Bad choice by Biden IMO.
bucolic_frolic
(44,098 posts)but it also may be indicative of them not tying up the full implications of any case to bring charges. For example, no word on the RNC/DNC bomber, and tying together Jan5&6 is complex I would think, especially since the Jan 6 Commission is still hearing evidence.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Is he working with other groups not to undermine what they are doing? Is he aware of insider moles he has to out first? Is there higher ups they're waiting for info on against them? Was he set up with bad investigations info upon entering his office and with false info is having to have everything rechecked? Are there so many criminals , and criminal acts its much larger than we think? We don't know everything, and likely some we'll never be told about. But I like everyone else am losing confidence fast justice will be done, and the orange one will stay a free man. Hope I'm wrong, and hope he isn't given a pardon claiming for the good of the country BS speech.
triron
(22,111 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,816 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)be calling for President Biden to resign also? Whatever cause there is to call for the AG to resign, wouldn't Biden's reason(s) to appoint someone they believe is, in effect, protecting criminals associated with the last administration remain and lead to another attempt under the next AG?
Btw, Wikipedia is consdering deleting this group's page: "The primary sourcing is extremely problematic--it's heavily skewed toward sources that raise neutrality but more importantly, notability concerns. Mainstream coverage is practically nonexistant, and a single mention in a source does not entitle one to a Wikipedia article."
I like their reasons for forming and what they say they want to do, but could this call at this time for the USAG's (!) resignation be part of an attempt to raise their profile. and "notability"?
Leith
(7,830 posts)There are many posters here who tell us they understand about the workings of government and they insist that we must be patient.
There are many other posters who state their impatience with the slow and silent efforts that may or may not be in the process. We have no way of knowing that anything but the arrests of some of the rioters and their light sentences have been done.
I understand and sympathize with all the above. The rethug House convened several public Benghazi hearings in the time that Democrats have already taken to tell us fuck-all about what's going on.
For those who "understand" so much better than the rest of us, why not tell us what you know? So far all I've read is that things take time, be patient, and, quite frankly, a rude condescending attitude towards others who aren't sitting tight and shutting the fuck up.
All we're asking for is: throw us a bone! Give us some indication that at least some of the sleezy big name creeps are going to face justice - or at least talk about it to law enforcement some time somewhere some how.
Ten months, all we have seen is the prosecution of a few magats that nobody ever heard of. It is not enough. Just how can an interested outside observer tell the difference between a) it's all getting done behind the scenes; and b) nobody's doing shit except keeping us lib commies quiet.
Brainfodder
(6,426 posts)How does one arrest half of the Senate all at once without some chaos for a bit?
Merrick Garland being kept out of the SC, IMHO just astounding that he is the guy now overseeing this!
We all want them in a public stockade with ample tomatoes at the ready at the very least, yesterday, but good things come to those who wait?
spanone
(136,254 posts)BComplex
(8,259 posts)Republicans don't get prosecuted. Only democrats.
flamingdem
(39,378 posts)AT ALL
Ohioboy
(3,288 posts)When McCarthy and other republicans openly threatened communication companies that complied with the Jan 6 committee he should have been charged with obstruction immediately, no investigation necessary.
traitorsgalore
(1,406 posts)The rest of us can get fucked, mountains of evidence be damned. Trumpunk was recorded on the phone for more than an hour committing election fraud in Georgia and nothing's being done.
Fck Garland and his complicity in election tampering and every one of his apologists.
Joinfortmill
(14,816 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,302 posts)live love laugh
(13,394 posts)stillspkg
(93 posts)I am glad to see this. People register inaction as a weakness and end up voting for someone who will get things done. Garlands inaction becomes the biggest referendum on this Presidency, which gets spun in many ways that will rally people regardless of the facts.
Lets keep the heat on.
rambler_american
(795 posts)and the former Democratic President had been ticketed for illegal parking or jaywalking there would have been an indictment the day the R president took office. Why do the Dems always bring the sheet music for Kumbaya to a knife fight?
Evolve Dammit
(17,109 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Meek seems to fit right now. Scared of his own shadow?
His statement explaining why he was reluctant to dole out harsh sentences on the1/6 rioters, saying it might harden them was so insipid. Please Mr. Garland quit being a scaredy-cat. If not get someone in there that isnt afraid to come down hard on Insurrectionists.
sprinkleeninow
(20,355 posts)1/6 rioters/insurrectionists. Oy.
Was 'telling' to say the least...
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,803 posts)in support of their fascist hero. These are the kind of people for whom such mercy is seen as weakness worthy of sneers and and a green light to continue their criminal activity, only more intensely now.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)At first I was enthusiastic but here we are almost a year into Bidens first term and our DOJ looks inept and powerless. Its one thing not to have an active fascist like Barr as AG, but having someone uninterested in restoring Americas justice system to pre-Trump levels of enforcement and protection is frankly gobsmacking.
tritsofme
(17,611 posts)Its what they do best.
Celerity
(44,566 posts)time soon.
I was not thrilled with the pick, but I defer, obviously, to our President. I hope that when (if) Garland does bring the prosecutions, it is a cleansing fire that burns away the overlaid carcass of Trumpian treason and treachery.
StocktonNative
(120 posts)I'm sure the DOJ staff can be paid off too.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.propublica.org/article/ivanka-donald-trump-jr-close-to-being-charged-felony-fraud/amp
Hotler
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uponit7771
(90,437 posts)... can't get past the fact that if he was he'd be up underneath the jail house now.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Get Garland Gone. Take Wray Away.
Hotler
(11,605 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,615 posts)It seems more than possible that America dodged at least one bullet when it comes to SCOTUS.
budkin
(6,790 posts)He's an absolute DISASTER and is going to cost us dearly.
triron
(22,111 posts)ecstatic
(32,932 posts)trump would be awaiting trial right now if he were black. I fully believe that.
Right now, I'm pinning all my hopes on the very brave district attorney in Georgia, Fani Willis.