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Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 10:49 PM Nov 2021

Moderate Covid spread.

The country hasn't seen that level since delta. It looks like Florida and Louisiana are there. CT has moderate spread in the majority of counties and local towns are lifting their indoor mask mandates. Mine did a week ago. Several other states are getting close.

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Moderate Covid spread. (Original Post) Tomconroy Nov 2021 OP
Thankfully, delta has gotten better... VarryOn Nov 2021 #1
Lifting mask mandates is nuts. Pobeka Nov 2021 #2
It's devastating the Upper Midwest right now thanks to anti-vaxxers. keep_left Nov 2021 #3
Glad I'm a triple vaxxer. roamer65 Nov 2021 #4
We could have another Winter surge BigmanPigman Nov 2021 #5
Yes, I think we are going to have another surge. LisaL Nov 2021 #8
My assumption is that we will Johonny Nov 2021 #16
Nationwide, the 7-day average has increased Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #6
Yep, it is starting to go back up in our state. LisaL Nov 2021 #9
On the by-counties plots it seems to be creeping back down into the SE. Hugin Nov 2021 #11
Dr. Gottlieb's thinking endemic in January: Tomconroy Nov 2021 #7
His definition of endemic seems to be even if infections rise, people ignore it. Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #10
And we still have more than 1,000 people dying per day from covid. LisaL Nov 2021 #12
By the NYT hotspot map and the weekly case averaged Tomconroy Nov 2021 #15
Is it disappearing - Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #19
It's taking out the unvaxxed wherever it can find them. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #20
Deaths per case appears to have dropped to around 1% Klaralven Nov 2021 #13
If you listened to those booster approval conferences on line Tomconroy Nov 2021 #14
Vintage. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #17
After burning through Florida it has all but disappeared cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #18
As the weather gets chillier, fewer things happening outside FakeNoose Nov 2021 #21
The vaccines are miracles. I just finished Dr. Gottlieb's book. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #22
In my area (Erie County, NY), we're having a surge. The new case rate yesterday was highest since liberal_mama Nov 2021 #23

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
2. Lifting mask mandates is nuts.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 11:41 PM
Nov 2021

Just in time for Thansgiving.

The virus is prevelant at levels higher than we had last summer.

keep_left

(1,783 posts)
3. It's devastating the Upper Midwest right now thanks to anti-vaxxers.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 11:46 PM
Nov 2021

Those morons are guaranteeing this will just go on and on until we eventually get an escape variant. Then we'll be right back where we were in March.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
5. We could have another Winter surge
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:33 AM
Nov 2021

and I predict we will based on the cycles in this country.

Central Europe is seeing record high numbers now. WHO is warning not to ease on restrictions and pushes more vaccines as another bad wave is hitting many countries as Winter nears. Many do not have enough doses for citizens to even get a first shot. They are also predicting another 500,000 dead as Delta spreads over the next few months.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
16. My assumption is that we will
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 11:15 AM
Nov 2021

And it is wise to get a booster sometime this month so I will. Wave after wave suggests to me that prior infection does not give lasting immunity to many and a lot of unvaccinated people are going to get hit yet again in the winter of 2022. Meanwhile the vaccinated will likely fair much better. Because that's simply how the last wave went.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
6. Nationwide, the 7-day average has increased
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:42 AM
Nov 2021

for the last two days for which we have full reporting.

And the positivity rate in tests (mandated randomly where I work) has increased the last 2 weeks.

I think we're about done with the downward trend, and are heading back up.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
9. Yep, it is starting to go back up in our state.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 03:48 AM
Nov 2021

With covid, end of one cycle is the beginning of the other.
Hopefully FDA hurries up and approves the new anti-viral meds.

Hugin

(33,140 posts)
11. On the by-counties plots it seems to be creeping back down into the SE.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 10:01 AM
Nov 2021

As Winter brings cooler and dryer air.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
10. His definition of endemic seems to be even if infections rise, people ignore it.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 09:45 AM
Nov 2021

That does seem to be the case.

I don't think that is the formal definition of endemic, though.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
15. By the NYT hotspot map and the weekly case averaged
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 10:46 AM
Nov 2021

It's just disappearing in the south. All those states are going to be moderate spread maybe in a couple of weeks.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
19. Is it disappearing -
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:06 PM
Nov 2021

or are they just not reporting.

And if they are actually disappearing, then other places are picking up - since the average case rate is static to increasing.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
20. It's taking out the unvaxxed wherever it can find them.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:11 PM
Nov 2021

The south is real though. Apparently there is something to natural immunity.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
13. Deaths per case appears to have dropped to around 1%
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 10:17 AM
Nov 2021

That's low enough that people in most age groups without other risk factors will not be particularly concerned.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
14. If you listened to those booster approval conferences on line
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 10:20 AM
Nov 2021

All the mavens are saying the vax is really meant to stop serious illness and death not so much infections. Though the way it worked out nearly everyone is eligible for a booster.
Dr. Gottlieb is my Covid boy. He went to Wesleyan a million years after I did.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
18. After burning through Florida it has all but disappeared
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 11:20 AM
Nov 2021

Oh course that is how viruses work. They use up the available fuel and burn out.

There is something to be said for weather related as well. Florida's winter is during the summer months where everyone stays indoors. Now the weather is nice everyone is outside again. Opposite up north.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
21. As the weather gets chillier, fewer things happening outside
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:20 PM
Nov 2021

... restaurants are closing their outdoor decks, etc. The outdoor concerts are ending. We'll see more people returning to indoor activities and family get-togethers. That's when infections heated up last year and I believe it's already happening again this year.

One thing that might make a difference is the fact that we're vaccinating the school-age kids now! Let's hope that the school vaccinations and the employer mandated deadlines are making a difference in the infection rates.

We can't have another winter like last year. It was way too deadly.



 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
22. The vaccines are miracles. I just finished Dr. Gottlieb's book.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:27 PM
Nov 2021

He's a good writer and he's on the board of Pfizer and describes how Pfizer created their vax. He describes the head of the lab calling into a meeting of the board to give them the first results of the trials of the vaccine. It's quite a moment.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
23. In my area (Erie County, NY), we're having a surge. The new case rate yesterday was highest since
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:35 PM
Nov 2021

early spring. Oddly, we don't have a indoor mask mandate in New York, except in government buildings and public transportation.

My husband felt sick on Saturday, with cold symptoms, so I sent him for a PCR Covid test at Walgreens yesterday. I'm waiting on the results. He thinks it's just a cold, so hopefully he's right. He's fully vaccinated, of course, but I think he is lax about wearing a mask when he's not with me. Also, many of his coworkers are not vaccinated and don't wear masks.

People need to be careful. I think it's going to be a rough winter.

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