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Yup, the judge is running the show.......he's going to set this killer free. (Original Post) a kennedy Nov 2021 OP
I have never seen anything like this. nt DURHAM D Nov 2021 #1
Hard to believe eyeofnewt Nov 2021 #14
and then the prosecution files an appeal...judicial misconduct..retrial agingdem Nov 2021 #16
Is that possible with an acquittal? I thought it wasn't. yardwork Nov 2021 #19
not for the same charges but here's hoping the agingdem Nov 2021 #22
Prosecution doesn't get to appeal sarisataka Nov 2021 #21
true but if they can get the kid on a new charge agingdem Nov 2021 #24
They should be able to try him sarisataka Nov 2021 #29
Could they take him into court on federal charges? jmowreader Nov 2021 #50
I'm not sure on the Federal charges sarisataka Nov 2021 #51
I have two words for you: MANUEL REAL Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #37
Yup..........he'll have a stroke, running the show..... a kennedy Nov 2021 #2
Judge Schroeder's phone rings in the middle of the Rittenhouse trial, Fla Dem Nov 2021 #48
Oy, this judge. nt Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #3
judge is biased as hell Beachnutt Nov 2021 #4
The country will explode. onecaliberal Nov 2021 #5
No it won't. JohnSJ Nov 2021 #10
Doubt it. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #17
The asshole are NOT a majority. onecaliberal Nov 2021 #27
Is that what happened in this case? Hav Nov 2021 #39
No, but that's what's happening literally everywhere. Solomon Nov 2021 #40
Is it what happened? onecaliberal Nov 2021 #43
Evidence is all jury members concern themselves with jimfields33 Nov 2021 #6
It's no substitute for conviction but can victims sue spooky3 Nov 2021 #7
Short answer is "yes"....nt Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #12
Thank you nt spooky3 Nov 2021 #13
Yes, I believe so. Ron Goldman's family got a judgement against OJ onecaliberal Nov 2021 #28
Yes. But OJ had wealth and assets to attach fescuerescue Nov 2021 #41
You can file bankruptcy on a wrongful death judgement? onecaliberal Nov 2021 #44
yes. It's a civil judgement. fescuerescue Nov 2021 #45
He did get the Heisman, but only after it was recovered from some shady stuff that onecaliberal Nov 2021 #46
If Rittenhouse had money sure fescuerescue Nov 2021 #42
I think this judge attended William Barr seminars on defending the perps world wide wally Nov 2021 #8
He's obviously biased. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #9
Kenosha is in a narrow area. Milwaukee on the north Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #11
Yep. xmas74 Nov 2021 #15
I see. i grew up 100 miles north northwest. Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #18
It's my home and I miss it. xmas74 Nov 2021 #20
Curious, what's the racial makeup of Kenosha?? Just saw a show about the moving and a kennedy Nov 2021 #32
The area is rebuilding after Rust Belt deterioration. Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #34
As I posted before... Dawgman49 Nov 2021 #23
I fear that you are correct LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #25
That's ridiculous. Calista241 Nov 2021 #35
Judge didn't even know that it was the defense not the prosecution that filed that motion Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #36
The little punk just broke down crying on the stand AverageOldGuy Nov 2021 #26
Didn't see one damn wet tear tho. Crying by acting on what his defense team worked with him on. a kennedy Nov 2021 #33
Nazi judge presiding over trial of Nazi murderer in Wississippi dalton99a Nov 2021 #30
Open season on protesters Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #31
JUDGE LITERALLY WENT ON ABOUT GUN AMMO !! I've not seen this ever uponit7771 Nov 2021 #38
are we still thinking this is a Racial epithet? Chille Nov 2021 #47
Yep this thing is OVER budkin Nov 2021 #49

eyeofnewt

(146 posts)
14. Hard to believe
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:37 PM
Nov 2021

Stunning

“Don’t get brazen with me!”

And the lawyer has to just take that crap

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
16. and then the prosecution files an appeal...judicial misconduct..retrial
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:38 PM
Nov 2021

the appeal will more than likely be granted but this can take years unless it's expedited (what are the odds of that happening???)...and that little sonofabitch lives large on donations from the likes of Ricky Schroder...

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
19. Is that possible with an acquittal? I thought it wasn't.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:41 PM
Nov 2021

The judge can be investigated for judicial misconduct, but I don't think that a defendant can be retried after an acquittal. But I'm not a law expert.

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
22. not for the same charges but here's hoping the
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:47 PM
Nov 2021

prosecution gleans enough new info to eventually get that little creep back in court...

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
24. true but if they can get the kid on a new charge
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:49 PM
Nov 2021

they can get a new trial...maybe...right now I want the judge to resign..

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
29. They should be able to try him
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:00 PM
Nov 2021

On illegal possession of a firearm charge but it would be a slap on the wrist by comparison. If he gets free here on the shootings that is over, self-defense free to go.

The families could go to civil court for wrongful death.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
50. Could they take him into court on federal charges?
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:35 PM
Nov 2021

The gun he had came to him via a straw purchase, and then there’s hate crime laws that could probably fit since it wouldn’t be hard to argue he was there to try to kill black people.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
51. I'm not sure on the Federal charges
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:45 PM
Nov 2021

There have been cases where a cop shot someone and was charged with civil rights violations but I can't recall it happening to a private citizen.

A straw purchase charge can be brought against the person who bought the rifle. There should also be charges for providing it to a minor.

It can be argued that he was there because of black people but since everyone shot was white I really don't see a hate crime charge going very far. Especially if he is found not guilty in this trial.

Scottie Mom

(5,838 posts)
37. I have two words for you: MANUEL REAL
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:40 PM
Nov 2021
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/08/02/mathews-nations-longest-serving-judge-was-a-tyrant-in-the-court/

There is no judge in this world that can or will ever compare with the level of tyranny in the courtroom of Judge Real.

While the Kyle Rittenhouse judge is bad, IMO, he does not hold a candle to Judge Real.

Fla Dem

(27,633 posts)
48. Judge Schroeder's phone rings in the middle of the Rittenhouse trial,
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:26 PM
Nov 2021

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onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
27. The asshole are NOT a majority.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:52 PM
Nov 2021

We cannot allow these people to pick off Black and brown people whenever they feel like it. I’m so fucking tired of this attitude.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
43. Is it what happened?
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 11:49 AM
Nov 2021

Proud boy hunting. And spare me the victims were white bullshit.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
6. Evidence is all jury members concern themselves with
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:29 PM
Nov 2021

I was on a jury and the only discussion of the judge was the instructions provided. If prosecutors did their job then a guilty finding will happen. If they didn’t do there job then there will be an acquittal. That’s it.

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
7. It's no substitute for conviction but can victims sue
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:31 PM
Nov 2021

the defendant civilly? With all the donor money slushing around, maybe that should be considered.

fescuerescue

(4,475 posts)
41. Yes. But OJ had wealth and assets to attach
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 09:42 AM
Nov 2021

A judgement against Rittenhouse isn't worth the paper it's written on.

He can just file chapter 7.

Worst case is that is credit is damaged for a few years.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
44. You can file bankruptcy on a wrongful death judgement?
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 11:51 AM
Nov 2021

I assume if this worked, even OJ would have done it. If I recall the Goldman’s never got any of the money.

fescuerescue

(4,475 posts)
45. yes. It's a civil judgement.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:01 PM
Nov 2021

Not much different than if a credit card sues you for an unpaid balance.

The option was open to OJ too. He just didn't take it because for him, it would be a bad choice.

OJ had lots of assets and he wanted to keep them. Filing Chapter 7 gives the court control over your assets.

OJ still had some of them taken, but overall he remained wealthy.

Rittenhouse? He's an 18 year old kid. Old enough to be separate from his parents. Not old enough to have anything substantial.

I think the biggest thing OJ lost was the rights to his book. Goldman got that. He got a few other things too (I think his Heisman trophy)

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
46. He did get the Heisman, but only after it was recovered from some shady stuff that
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:06 PM
Nov 2021

Ended up putting OJ behind bars.

fescuerescue

(4,475 posts)
42. If Rittenhouse had money sure
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 09:44 AM
Nov 2021

But he doesn't.

If a civil judgment is found against him, he can just wipe it with a chapter 7 filing.

And the donations can be directed to a trust.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
9. He's obviously biased.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:34 PM
Nov 2021

You can see anger on his face and he’s supposed to be a fucking judge. Holy shit.

Tetrachloride

(9,624 posts)
11. Kenosha is in a narrow area. Milwaukee on the north
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:34 PM
Nov 2021

Chicago on the south. Lake Michigan on the east. I-94 on the west.

The Racine Kenosha area could be shut down.

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
20. It's my home and I miss it.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:43 PM
Nov 2021

I was there in June. His stink hangs heavy all over Sheridan Rd right now.

a kennedy

(35,988 posts)
32. Curious, what's the racial makeup of Kenosha?? Just saw a show about the moving and
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:24 PM
Nov 2021

burying of mostly African American prosperous communities for interstate and hi ways. Wondering if Kenosha was mostly white and off limits for such atrocities.

Dawgman49

(280 posts)
23. As I posted before...
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:48 PM
Nov 2021

He will be acquitted and be the poster boy for right wing vigilantism….will be on tucker within a month

Calista241

(5,633 posts)
35. That's ridiculous.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:35 PM
Nov 2021

You can't just ignore a judge's ruling like that, especially not when he told you just hours before that he hadn't changed his mind. Not unless you want to get ripped a new one.

Johnny2X2X

(24,208 posts)
36. Judge didn't even know that it was the defense not the prosecution that filed that motion
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:37 PM
Nov 2021

And he denied the motion to the defense, not the prosecution.

AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
26. The little punk just broke down crying on the stand
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:52 PM
Nov 2021

The little punk just broke down, crying like a baby, on the stand.

He will walk, mark my words. Then he will be a hero to the rightwing thugs -- Proud Boys, III Percenters, Oath Keepers, and all the other ash and trash. After Rittenhouse is acquitted, it will be open season on peaceful demonstrators. Which is why I started four years ago carrying a concealed weapon along with pistols in all three of my vehicles along with a shotgun and AR-15 in the truck that I drive most of the time.

a kennedy

(35,988 posts)
33. Didn't see one damn wet tear tho. Crying by acting on what his defense team worked with him on.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:26 PM
Nov 2021

Johnny2X2X

(24,208 posts)
31. Open season on protesters
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:09 PM
Nov 2021

This judge wants to make sure more protesters are killed, that's his agenda. He's a total shill for the defense, he's doing a better job than the defense of defending Rittenhouse.

Literally won't let the prosecution make any case.

 

Chille

(193 posts)
47. are we still thinking this is a Racial epithet?
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:12 PM
Nov 2021

all the people were and still are white

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