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madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:09 PM Nov 2021

Rittenhouse trial: Wow, this is some new kind of bullshit.

So let us get this straight: This wackadoodle judge now wants the prosecution to produced an Apple Software Engineer before the end of the day to testify that by using your fingers to make a photo bigger you aren't actually changing the content of the photo.

This is nuts.

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Rittenhouse trial: Wow, this is some new kind of bullshit. (Original Post) madaboutharry Nov 2021 OP
Could the Prosecution just file a Motion for Recusal at this point? Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #1
RIGHT !!! The bullet shit was gob smacking in and of itself but now he believes zooming alters uponit7771 Nov 2021 #3
A motion to recuse would be futile and dangerous. TomSlick Nov 2021 #49
And this judge is both stupid and biased. live love laugh Nov 2021 #53
He is at least so biased as to appear stupid. TomSlick Nov 2021 #56
RIGHT !?!? It looks like the video the DA was about to show was going to bust KRs WHOLE DEFENSE uponit7771 Nov 2021 #2
it wouldn't bust his whole defense Amishman Nov 2021 #8
I don't think he retreated **FIRST** though, I think this video was going to show that KR didn't uponit7771 Nov 2021 #17
I point my gun at you qazplm135 Nov 2021 #20
Got it, fleeing from the scene someone can regain self defense if they're chased. We'll see ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #21
I mean intent qazplm135 Nov 2021 #23
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 uponit7771 Nov 2021 #24
the drone footage (what was in dispute) was shown, just not enlarged Celerity Nov 2021 #45
Positive verification to disprove manipulation will help the prosecution, wouldn't it? Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2021 #27
But why the bullshit arbitrary deadline? Orrex Nov 2021 #40
Are not all pictures online broken up and sent digitally when they are forwarded? applegrove Nov 2021 #4
this corrupt judge knows the public will Beachnutt Nov 2021 #5
Just a demonstration? Yeah, if they're lucky. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2021 #7
I doubt it. You think we're going to see riots? I really don't see that. jimfields33 Nov 2021 #28
of course not... WarGamer Nov 2021 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #42
Why do I feel like I'm watching a 21st century version of a 1950s Mississippi trial Best_man23 Nov 2021 #6
I know the photographer in the front row and DM'ed him Ellipsis Nov 2021 #9
That's excellent! littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #15
They probably called Apple tech support... and are currently in a the Que Ellipsis Nov 2021 #19
NICE !! Good to be on DU uponit7771 Nov 2021 #18
Is Rittenhouse still on the stand? Tomconroy Nov 2021 #10
He's getting another break. No doubt to compose himself. littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #14
It's astounding the level of woo and stupidity on parade here. littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #11
Apple should provide one on Zoom. Now. spanone Nov 2021 #12
The Faux pas Nov 2021 #13
Right now I'm hoping for a hung jury and a new judge and another trial Tribetime Nov 2021 #16
What channel is showing the trial? dixiechiken1 Nov 2021 #22
It's on CourtTv which is a free channel. littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #26
Thank you! dixiechiken1 Nov 2021 #29
You're welcome. ❤ littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #51
it's LIVE on youtube too: link.... IcyPeas Nov 2021 #31
Thank you! dixiechiken1 Nov 2021 #52
Why not . . . AverageOldGuy Nov 2021 #25
Well... Mike Nelson Nov 2021 #30
Remember when they had to throw out the one jury member? Ohioboy Nov 2021 #39
That's a Rebl2 Nov 2021 #32
Man, I wish I could be watching this. liberalla Nov 2021 #33
The judge is nuts. Seriously nuts. Channeling Louis Gohmert here with a tad more, but not much.... Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #34
NEXT: Steve Jobs ordered to testify dalton99a Nov 2021 #35
This ipad I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2021 #36
Just got done watching that point in the trial Ohioboy Nov 2021 #37
Judge's bias is overwhelming. EOM tiredtoo Nov 2021 #38
The sad thing about his bias is that if the punk is acquitted, the prosecution can't appeal. George II Nov 2021 #43
The defendant and judge have bonded. Jon King Nov 2021 #44
I've only watched this in bits and pieces MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #46
Duplicate post MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #47
I feel for the jury that has to sit through that explanation. Johonny Nov 2021 #48
This damn judge needs to be removed NOW........ a kennedy Nov 2021 #50
I had to read that a whole bunch of times Bettie Nov 2021 #54
Well, it belongs in the book titled madaboutharry Nov 2021 #55

Tommy Carcetti

(44,497 posts)
1. Could the Prosecution just file a Motion for Recusal at this point?
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:11 PM
Nov 2021

I mean, earlier the judge was basically offering unsolicited testimony to the jury about the types of bullets being used.

Juries typically look to judges as their sherpa guide, so they're going to give extra credence to whatever he says.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
3. RIGHT !!! The bullet shit was gob smacking in and of itself but now he believes zooming alters
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:12 PM
Nov 2021

... images ?!

TomSlick

(13,013 posts)
49. A motion to recuse would be futile and dangerous.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 09:42 PM
Nov 2021

It is clear the judge would deny the motion and there is no opportunity for the prosecution to appeal. My rule for a motion to recuse is "If you would strike the king, you must kill him." A pissed off judge - especially a stupid or biased one - can do a lot of damage.

TomSlick

(13,013 posts)
56. He is at least so biased as to appear stupid.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:04 AM
Nov 2021

A biased judge and an incompetent prosecutor is a bad combination.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
2. RIGHT !?!? It looks like the video the DA was about to show was going to bust KRs WHOLE DEFENSE
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:11 PM
Nov 2021

... open because it shows he pointed his gun first then the crowd reacted.

The judge has to know this trying to act like a tech person told him that "zooming" alters videos ... or he's acting confused.

Fuck this judge

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
8. it wouldn't bust his whole defense
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:21 PM
Nov 2021

under WI law, even someone who provokes confrontation can regain the right to self defense by retreating, with KR did.

It would however have a significant impact on the mindset of the jury

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
17. I don't think he retreated **FIRST** though, I think this video was going to show that KR didn't
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:30 PM
Nov 2021

... just turn around and run with his rifle that he made a threating act of point it at people becoming the aggressor.

or does it matter that KR pointed his gun first as long as he tried to flee ?

I have a real problem with laws that allow people to purposely put themselves in danger then scream self defense after killing people.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
20. I point my gun at you
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:41 PM
Nov 2021

Without cause, no self defense claim.

I then turn and run away.

You follow after me and present Potential for serious harm, I can at that point regain my right to self defense.

It's more complicated than that but that's the baseline.

You only regain it once you abandon the initial assault and retreat generally speaking.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
21. Got it, fleeing from the scene someone can regain self defense if they're chased. We'll see ...
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:46 PM
Nov 2021

... I still think KR has a chance of presenting self defense.

Would that be erased if he was looking to shoot someone? I looks like that's what the DA was getting at with the talk about going to the 63rd street location ... that KR was looking for someone to shoot, why leave his location to a new one if that wasn't true

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
23. I mean intent
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:50 PM
Nov 2021

Is always at play but very hard to prove.

But actions show intent too so if he truly abandoned his earlier intent and ran away, and was then reconfronted he could have a viable claim.

Not saying he does, saying he could.

Celerity

(54,404 posts)
45. the drone footage (what was in dispute) was shown, just not enlarged
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:03 PM
Nov 2021
go to 5 hours 39 minutes, 30 seconds, it starts from there

Orrex

(67,108 posts)
40. But why the bullshit arbitrary deadline?
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:36 PM
Nov 2021

Though I'm not versed in the finer particulars of law, it seems to me that the results of the Apple expert's testimony will not greatly differ if given by the end of the day today or by the end of the day tomorrow.

Is there some compelling reason why Rittenhouse's BFF judge needs this info immediately?

Beachnutt

(8,909 posts)
5. this corrupt judge knows the public will
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:14 PM
Nov 2021

explode into a demonstration if this boy walks and he is trying to make it happen so rethugs can stoke the fire

Response to WarGamer (Reply #41)

Best_man23

(5,268 posts)
6. Why do I feel like I'm watching a 21st century version of a 1950s Mississippi trial
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:16 PM
Nov 2021

Where the judge, prosecutor, and defense all seem to be in cahoots to get the local Klan Grand Cyclops acquitted.

The judge's phone playing the tRump rally song and the prosecutor not even saying boo pretty much told me this thing is fixed from all angles.

Faux pas

(16,356 posts)
13. The
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:25 PM
Nov 2021

Good News is that it's being televised wall-to-wall there'll be gigantic blow back and repercussions

AverageOldGuy

(3,828 posts)
25. Why not . . .
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:57 PM
Nov 2021

. . . just end the trial now, let the little piece of shit go free and save the expense of a show trial that will find him not guilty of anything?

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
30. Well...
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 06:28 PM
Nov 2021

... not just this issue, but the Judge favors the defense, overall. I can't believe some of it hasn't seemed into the Jury. This Judge seems, at time, unprofessional.

Ohioboy

(3,891 posts)
39. Remember when they had to throw out the one jury member?
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:35 PM
Nov 2021

The judge never really admonished the guy, or informed him of how telling racial jokes shows bias. Instead, the judge seemed to indicate that "others" would think there was bias. The judge was like- oops gonna have to let you go, if I don't people are going to think there is bias.

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
34. The judge is nuts. Seriously nuts. Channeling Louis Gohmert here with a tad more, but not much....
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 06:46 PM
Nov 2021

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
36. This ipad
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:21 PM
Nov 2021

Bullshit is the judge showing his bias and protecting the murdering asshole sociopath.

If that video would have made the little shit guilty as sin..the judge to make such a lame ass stupid excuse to reject that video shows he has already made up his mind. Fucking magat,biased bullshit judge. He needs to get punted off the bench and lose his law liscence,forever.

Ohioboy

(3,891 posts)
37. Just got done watching that point in the trial
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:24 PM
Nov 2021

Both those attorneys know it's not changing the image to zoom in on a photo on your phone these days. The judge probably knows it too, but he's an older guy like me and might not use a phone like that. But, the one that really knows is Rittenhouse. You can see it in his eyes that he knows damn well how a touch screen phone works.

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. The sad thing about his bias is that if the punk is acquitted, the prosecution can't appeal.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:45 PM
Nov 2021

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
44. The defendant and judge have bonded.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:52 PM
Nov 2021

Its literally like watching a grandfather preside over the trial of his most beloved grandson. Absolutely bizzarro world.

MustLoveBeagles

(16,387 posts)
46. I've only watched this in bits and pieces
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:08 PM
Nov 2021

I have a very low tolerance for bullshit. Having said that this whole case, even before the jury was selected. has been an absolute shitshow. I feels like a poorly written courtroom drama or reality show.

a kennedy

(35,971 posts)
50. This damn judge needs to be removed NOW........
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 09:51 PM
Nov 2021

will never happen, but damn it I sure want him gone.

Bettie

(19,702 posts)
54. I had to read that a whole bunch of times
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:00 AM
Nov 2021

to be sure that was what you said.

Really? FFS. I got nothing.

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