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onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:44 PM Nov 2021

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Joinfortmill

(21,661 posts)
1. Amen.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:47 PM
Nov 2021

Fiendish Thingy

(24,036 posts)
2. Progress is obstructed not by donors, but by 2 senators
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:52 PM
Nov 2021

Two senators wholly lacking in integrity.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
3. The two Senators are joined by 50 on the other side that obstruct EVERYTHING.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:55 PM
Nov 2021

For the same reason the two Senators on our side do it. Their owners FORBID it.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,036 posts)
4. If the two had any integrity, they could not be "owned" by donors
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 09:40 PM
Nov 2021

The burden of responsibility lies with the willingly owned, not the owners,
.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
5. That's so 50 years ago....
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 09:47 PM
Nov 2021

Irish_Dem

(82,275 posts)
6. The greedy rich bribe corrupt politicians who dupe willfully ignorant voters.
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 11:53 AM
Nov 2021

There is more than enough blame to go around.

Wounded Bear

(64,619 posts)
7. Well, the repub part of Congress is contributing a lot to our lack of progress...
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:12 PM
Nov 2021


The media is complicit in that they like to blame the generic "congress" term when the obstructionism is usually repubs.
 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
8. republicans are anti democratic and anti progress
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:18 PM
Nov 2021

The elected ones, their voters and sympathizers.

Demsrule86

(71,555 posts)
9. We would have progressed had we won in 16...both Manchin and
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:20 PM
Nov 2021

Sinema are on record supporting Hillary and have voted with the Democrats in all-important votes. For example without Manchin's vote, the ACA would have gone down during the Trump years. We need both Manchin and Sinema for a Democratic majority in the Senate.

Most recently, a number of members of Congress voted no on Biden's bi-partisan infrastructure bill. There was no reason for this that I can fathom.

Tree Lady

(13,384 posts)
10. After watching a movie about how cut throat
Thu Nov 11, 2021, 12:20 PM
Nov 2021

Lobbying is, it's amazing we pass anything on our side when they have the most money.

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