****** OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE THREAD #2 *****

[Panasonic]

Will be posting every 150 replies to keep the flow going.

First thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021603852

[randome]

1. Yes, Obama! Embarrass the fuck out of this fool!

[PCIntern]

2. BAM!! Russia is the threat. Nt

[SidDithers]

3. Watchng these threads with a hawk eye...nt

Sid

[Gregorian]

4. "tHE 1980'S CALLED, AND THEY WANT THEIR FOREIGN POLICY BACK."

[Rosco T.]

5. "The 1980's called and want their foreign policy back"

BAZINGA!

[rocktivity]

37. He actually SAID that!!!

Late again, dammit!

rocktivity

[Flatpicker]

6. I guess

That if you reduce women's roles in the US, that it would create equality with the Arab nations.

Kind of a bassakwards way to do it though.

[Evergreen Emerald]

7. Attacking me is not an agenda

Poor baby.

[Javaman]

8. mittens on the defensive and sputtering. nt

[randome]

9. I suspect this doesn't come easy for Obama.

To deliberately make someone else uncomfortable. He's 'evolving', though.

[stevenleser]

28. I was just thinking the same thing. It does not come naturally for him

gotta do it though.

[flamingdem]

39. yes I like it

[Liberal In Texas]

10. oooh, rmoney playing the victim

[bullwinkle428]

11. This dumb fuck keeps repeating the same phrase over and over again.

[Enrique]

12. Mitt you are always wrong!

Mitt: I disagree. lol

[siligut]

13. Mitt YOU are all over the map

It is not attacking, it is clarifying.

[Javaman]

14. mittens never shuts up. nt

[Buddaman]

15. keep the threads going....

i read all of 'em.....GO BO!!!!!!

[Robb]

16. Oooh, Romney's trying the SOFA angle.

[spanone]

17. romney is going to lie his way through it again

[Care Acutely]

31. He flips so often, what else could he do?

He probably couldn't remember what his last position was on anything with a gun to his head.

[sfpcjock]

18. "With the Arab springs come...

Monroe Shock Absorbers with their unique ride!" - Uncle Mitt

[Gregorian]

19. Obama SCHOOLS the Mittster.

This is enjoyable. Mitt spews his nonsense, and Obama sets him straight.

[Javaman]

20. the dead eyed mittens smile. nt

[NYC Liberal]

21. "All the population, not just half of it"

[siligut]

22. Mitt we have it in video

I knew Mitt was going to try to hit Obama with the flexibility thing.

[msanthrope]

23. Way to BRING UP ISRAEL FIRST!!!! WHOOOOOOO OBAMA!!!!nt

[PCIntern]

24. Nail this mother...

Shit.

[Warren Stupidity]

25. Rambling mitt. The theme of the night.

[reformist2]

26. Slimy, slithering snake!!!

[Evergreen Emerald]

27. Obama won't interrupt....shiffer better take control

[MadBadger]

29. You are going to hear a lot about Romney's missed opportunity on Libya

[Marrah_G]

30. Obama looks like an adult and Mittens looks like petulant smirking child. nt

[spanone]

32. schieffer just lifted a heavy load for romney

[high density]

33. Wow, Mitt let OBama get the last word in that segment

That must be a first across these debates.

[Javaman]

40. iI think mittens handlers told him to keep his trap shut. nt

[Up2Late]

34. We need more real time fact checking on Romney...

...seems he can't remember what he said when.

[longship]

35. So far so good!

R&

[tilsammans]

36. Mitt's sniveling smirk makes me want to . . .

[PCIntern]

38. Shieffer is gettin on my nerves with the negative questions. Nt

[politicaljack78]

41. Obama providing steady leadership, Romney flipping his stances. n/t

[rbrnmw]

42. Mitt's grin is creepy and deranged looking

[renate]

75. his mouth is getting all pinched looking

I'm delayed by a few minutes but from what I'm watching right now, he's trying really hard not to lose it but he is like a powder keg... I know I'm biased but he looks like the last thing in the world from a calm and unflappable leader.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

43. Mitt seems awfully weak to me tonight.

Not the kind of person you'd want handing foreign affairs, unless you wanted to be a doormat.

[slutticus]

62. Dry mouth and red eyes...

He looks terrible.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

152. He really does.

He's a mess tonight.

[Gregorian]

44. Thanks to Obama this is educational. Great info on Libya.

[Rob H.]

45. Obama just gave a GREAT answer on Syria

IMO, at least.

[Politicub]

70. I agree. It was a gotcha question. Romney sounds like he is making shit up on the spot.

[RBInMaine]

111. OBAMA IS DOING GREAT ! HE IS KICKING ASS !

[spanone]

46. mitt's now a humanitarian

[Politicub]

47. Our president has got this

He lived it. Romney just makes shit up.

[flamingdem]

48. Now he's "hugging" Obama imitating him on Syria

[abelenkpe]

49. I don't remember anyone so disrespectful as Mitt

If he is elected I will

How is it possible that anyone would want to elect him?

[PCIntern]

58. Because they hate O. Nt

[Evergreen Emerald]

50. I know I am biased...but Romney sounds like he is reading a script.

[tarheelsunc]

51. Mitt looks and sounds like a man with no foreign policy experience

Oh wait... that's precisely who he is!

[high density]

52. Replace the leader of Syria with somebody responsible, but no military

Yeah let's see that plan Mitt.

[spanone]

53. mitt's repeating what Obama just said on syria

[politicaljack78]

54. Does Romney know that Iran has access to the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean?

[baldguy]

65. He said Iran was Syria's route to the sea.

[demlion]

55. Romney has no idea what he is talking about. At least McCain had some idea of foreig

policy albeit dangerous.

[hue]

56. Romney talking impossibilities!!

[Panasonic]

57. God, Mitt sounds like he's running for Student Council, not President.

[Glimmer of Hope]

67. It is the amateur vs. Commander in Chief.

[MadBadger]

59. Mitt: You're wrong about Syria (but i wouldnt do anything differently)

[Evergreen Emerald]

60. Syria...another etch a sketch

[Jennicut]

61. Mittens had to cram hard for this foreign policy stuff. He seems pretty weak on it all so far.

Not that surprised.

[stevenleser]

95. That is exactly what I thought too. Like he crammed an entire years learning in one night for final

exam and really doesnt grasp it at all.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

63. He keeps saying we have to coordinate

He's become a coordinator!

[PD Turk]

64. damn

It's like he's in school copying of The President's paper

[high density]

66. Romney just wants his huge fucking tax cuts for him and his pals

Clearly he hasn't bothered to give this foreign policy stuff half a thought.

[spanone]

68. kick his ass Mr. President

[Barack_America]

69. Romney's Syria response is Obama's plan, but more verbose and completely incoherent.

[politicaljack78]

82. The fog of Romnesia.

[AlinPA]

71. Romney still rambling.

[AlinPA]

193. Rambling, rambling, rambling.....

[flamingdem]

72. Yes Mitt we already did everything you took credit for thinking of regarding Syria jeez

Con man!

[politicaljack78]

73. Right on Mr. President, they need to be our friends that we support not another Iraqi

happy freedom debacle like 2003.

[Gregorian]

74. Now Mitt knows how it feels to be strapped to the roof of a car. Go Obama!

[tilsammans]

92. LOL!

How long until he shits himself?

[WinkyDink]

100. Bwah!

[Marthe48]

139. Clean-up on chair #1

n/t

[sfpcjock]

76. If Elder Willard could convert the Syrians

to... ah, ah, Ah, let's say LDS, then they could buy more Monroe Shock Absorbers with their unique ride!

[siligut]

77. Mitt wants to bully the ME

Mitt wants to bully everyone.

[onecent]

78. Mitt TOTALLY looks off his game.....he has lost his forceful bullyishness and he doesn't

do well when he doesn't feel like a controlling abuser...and someone is telling him to cool it.

I am lovin' this...

I personally don't understand half of why we are even in Libya..so this sounds like dribble to me
but Obama has a full book of KNOWLEDGE ON THIS SUBJECT. He's awesome.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

102. Different prescription meds?

[cabot]

79. President Obama is doing great (knock wood)

I'm so nervous for him! I couldn't debate to save my life.

[Evergreen Emerald]

80. Obama is kicking ass

[tridim]

81. He freaking blinks exactly 1 time per second. He never stops!

[siligut]

110. I like to punch at the TV and pretend he flinched

It can be quite satisfying.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

83. Even Chucky Toad tweeted:

Chuck Todd ‏@chucktodd

On Syria, yet another attempt by Romney to hug POTUS policy. Trying to sound different but policy same

[Blue_Roses]

84. Romney has no idea what he's talking about...he's only

regurgitating his memorized notes.

[Rob H.]

85. O just called out Romney on R's "mission creep" criticism

Nicely done.

[hue]

86. Rmoney's stupid smirk....

[spanone]

87. the President knows his shit.

[spanone]

89. mitt the pacifist

[fishwax]

88. fwiw, Obama is destroying Mitt on the CNN undecided voters instant reaction lines

He tends to be above the bar (with a few dips below), while Mitt tends to live below the bar and only occasionally top it. I don't always put much stock in that graphic, but it's nice to see it so clearly in the president's favor.

[flamingdem]

91. great!

[KewlKat]

115. how does the line thing work?

[fishwax]

220. they have a group of undecided voters using a dial to measure their reaction

they can turn the dial towards the positive if they like what they are hearing and to the negative if they don't, and then the lines aggregate the results on a moving graph, broken down between men and women.

[tarheelsunc]

90. Mitt's Syria answers are generic, and he just all but admitted his policy is no different

[spanone]

93. Obama just told you we formed friends of syria you dumbfuckwad

[high density]

94. Mitt clearly wanted this thing to be over about 23 minutes ago

He is embarrassing himself.

[BeyondGeography]

96. He doesn't have different ideas because we're doing what we should be doing

[politicaljack78]

101. President just jabbed him back to reality... wake up Willard !

[WinkyDink]

114. Oh, the Liberal World of Facts!

[2theleft]

117. that was awesome, wasn't it?

[Javaman]

97. I just had to chase a bee down in my house, what did I miss? nt

[politicaljack78]

116. Romney in a haze of Romnesia telling the world that he has the same ideas the administration is

already doing and President Obama bringing him back to reality !

[Politicub]

98. Tell us, governor, how would you "replace" Assad?

Said you won't use the military. Will you send a strongly worded letter?

[Grown2Hate]

107. "Well, you know... like... LEAD... and stuff!"

[elleng]

99. 'He doesn't have different ideas,' said POTUS.

[Warren Stupidity]

103. America has to stand with democracy.

What a novel idea.

[aquart]

104. Ask Mitt the difference between Libya and Syria.

[WinkyDink]

134. Heck, ask him to point them out on a map!

[hue]

105. Pres. O supportive of Women!!!! <3

[ChaoticTrilby]

106. "These countries cannot develop if young women are not given the education they need."

I love you, Obama!

[politicaljack78]

127. Well said ! Now that's my President, big ideas and solutions for developing Democracy.

[Digit]

108. mitt keeps looking like he is going cry

...and what is with this new licking his lips thing

[nolabear]

109. Late to he debate. I see Obama but who's that other guy? The diplomat. The concerned one.

The clueless one.

[renate]

112. Mitt's reciting his term paper

Syria's a route to the sea, it's Iran's only ally... earlier he was listing the populations of Libya and Egypt (why?)...

He's doing his best, but geographical facts isn't what this debate is about.

[Politicub]

113. Clearly foreign policy isn't Romney's strong suit

[KewlKat]

129. he excels in lying

[Politicub]

151. In other words, he's the ideal standard bearer for the GOP

[high density]

118. I like how Obama keeps hitting "nation building at home"

[desertduck]

119. romney babbling in end. didn't respond to obama's point.

since we are discussing foreign affairs, romney got the message to tone it down....wouldn't want the guy with the finger on the red button to sound like he is on meth. but he us just rambling slower

[AsahinaKimi]

120. did you notice that Romney

is blinking like really really fast? whats up with that?

[WinkyDink]

121. "I supported his action there" = GAME, SET, MATCH.

[tarheelsunc]

122. Theme of the first 25 minutes: Mitt agrees with President Obama on everything

[llmart]

200. That's it.....

Mitt's voting for Obama

[Gregorian]

123. Woo hoo! Obama ties it all together. Foreign policy requires a healthy economy back at home. Nail it

[rocktivity]

124. Obama is looking and acting presidential, Romney looks out of his league

Romney isn't looking at him!


rocktivity

[Javaman]

125. mittens expression is like he's waiting for the next dinner course. that look on his face is odd.

he's unable to take the gravity of this debate seriously.

He's simply clueless.

[nolabear]

126. Mit looks kind of whipped.

[trailmonkee]

128. Mittens consistently flat lining on CNN - Obama consistently above the line

not that it matters much

[KewlKat]

141. below the line now

[Panasonic]

145. Break out the defib!!!!

flatline!!!11

[high density]

130. oh boy, Mitt Romney the happy talk guy again

Jesus what a nut.

[stevenleser]

131. Can we end the debate now? The President is totally crushing #Romnesia so far. nt

[Rob H.]

132. Now it seems like Romney is cribbing from Obama's position on Egypt

Just paraphrasing what Obama just said.

[hue]

133. Pomney I don't think you've ever felt anything in your spoiled life!

[ChaoticTrilby]

135. Romney. Suddenly a "peacenick."

WOW. That's gonna lose him some support from the neo-con warmongers...I hope.

[2theleft]

136. we want a peaceable world? mitt the hippie. peace, love, dude...

[WinkyDink]

170. He fought for it.....on a bicycle in France.

[spanone]

137. who doesn't want peace, mitt? you think Obama wants war? two words...george bush

[ChisolmTrailDem]

138. Romney brings up domestic economy. eom

[rocktivity]

163. Oh, I thought it was just me

rocktivity

[politicaljack78]

140. Romnesia now wants a peaceful world ! Does not want to go to war! OMG !

[Barack_America]

142. Romney has no foreign policy, just buzzwords.

"Strength", "Backbone", etc. These are not policies.

[jsr]

143. Romney is just reciting factoids and generic bullshit

[Condem]

144. Mitt is sweating like Nixon!!!

[forestpath]

160. And sounds so raspy!

[tarheelsunc]

191. That's his Reagan accent.

[trailmonkee]

177. he's working on some boogies too

[llmart]

146. Uhmmmm.....

this debate is about foreign policy and Mitt's trying to bring it back to the economy 'cause he can't debate foreign policy and he's losing it!

[nolabear]

147. Whoa...he's genuinely not doing well.

[Liberal In Texas]

148. duh...debt came from you guys

[Javaman]

149. so mittens circles back to domestic when he's obviously panicking about foreign affairs.

He's done.

all over the map.

[Rob H.]

150. R now bringing up the economy and the sequestration

that RYAN VOTED FOR, iirc.

[spanone]

153. what a gasbag....hog manure

[Enrique]

154. 42 allies in France?

maybe I misheard...

[Javaman]

172. He thinks cheese is an ally LOL nt

[randome]

178. That's what I thought he said, too!

[Grown2Hate]

155. No, it's frightening that you're taking advice from Ahmadinejad. NT

[appleannie1]

156. He sure has practiced. Blah, blah, blah

[tclambert]

157. Mitt has sweat on his upper lip!

Shades of Nixon.

[Hayabusa]

158. Here we go with more of the strong military

bullshit.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

159. Okay Mitt

How do we cut taxes 20%, increase military spending and pay down the debt at the same time?

[elleng]

161. Requres us to be strong; weakened economy;

need strong military; need strong allies (Until rmoney wondrs if brits can handle olympics!)

[Evergreen Emerald]

162. Romney talks down to us...."bad guys " "Peace around the world"

What a dolt.

[baldguy]

164. What, Willard is taking economic advice from Amadinajad now?

[ehrnst]

165. Is Mitt talking about the UN when he says allies? The whipping boy of the NRA? (nt)

[tufnel]

166. Could Mitt...

Point out ONE specific thing instead of talking in these generalities? Call him out on that President Obama

[Glimmer of Hope]

167. Mitt is melting.

[susanwy]

168. No shit Mitt

we want a peaceful world.....frankly both parties FAIL on that one, but he acts as if he can just wave a magic wand! Oh wait - I know - throw another trillion at Defense, but foreign aid cut it, cut it all - yup that is a recipe for peace.

[riderinthestorm]

169. Mitt's gravitas is better this time. Dammit nt

[Up2Late]

171. Romney is just an empty suit now

He's taken so many different positions his words are just gibberish now.

[politicaljack78]

173. Romnesia wants allies now???? And a bigger military at the same time, even though our military

is second to none.

[spanone]

174. wow, romney gets 2 consecutive segments...no rebuttal from the President. fucked.

[spanone]

188. he's continually repeating himself

[spanone]

205. about fucking time

[2theleft]

175. free elections...yeah, mitt...we want those here too!!!

[desertduck]

179. omg!!!! that is SO lame! he is trying hard to bring it back to the economy

what a joke!!!!! is peaceful planet...um...economy. yeah. that worked real well. pathetic!!

to add: romney sounds like he is giving a stump speech of generalities. he is babbling BAD. this isn't going well for him.

[WinkyDink]

180. Oh, NOW he thinks he's in his "wheel-house"! WRONG, MITTNEY!

[Wednesdays]

181. Boy, rMoney has verbal diarrhea tonight

[high density]

182. tax cuts and more military! It worked so great under Bush

let's go there again!

[Barack_America]

183. WTF is Mitt smoking?? "US position not stronger anywhere in the world".

Is he reading the intelligence and foreign policy briefings he's now getting?

Dude, we're stronger EVERYWHERE.

[Gregorian]

184. Romney's ideas are all 30 years old, and tired.

[KewlKat]

185. WTF is mittens talking about?

[elehhhhna]

201. And THAT was the Gish Gallop. stop him BoB. Word salad.

[riderinthestorm]

186. Please go to Official Debate thread #3!!! nt

[Jennicut]

187. Is Mittens sweating now?

He seems like he doesn't want to be there.

[laruemtt]

189. rmoney's bluffing through this whole thing.

he's about 1/4 mm deep. obama's looking at him like he can't believe he has to debate this lightweight and take it seriously!

[tridim]

204. Fake it till you make it.

[sfpcjock]

190. Mitt has "to stand by" the new principle...

that he comes up with every morning.

[tridim]

192. Mitt just used the same line twice! LOL.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

194. . I suddenly got a whif of patchouli.

Romney the Hippie.

[onecent]

195. Now mitts talking about jobs???wtf?????? will not cut a budget..stand by allies..blah blah blah....

[Maven]

196. DON'T FORGET POLAND!!!!!!111!!!

[WinkyDink]

210. Herring? I thought you said "Goering"!

[Neoma]

197. Mitt seems to be repeating what he said in the other debates.

Also: "Military, military, military."

[rocktivity]

198. Here's his strategy -- he's trying to take a mulligan on Debagte #2

Obama should mention that he's wandering off course.


rocktivity

[nolabear]

199. If Obama pushes on his certainty and experience Mitt is done for.

[high density]

202. Poland.... Tehran.... Principles.... Strong Military

random scatterbrained thoughts there, Mittens.

[tufnel]

203. He's still agreeing with everything the President says..

[theglammistress]

206. This is almost painful to watch

Romney is just... rambling. Obama is pounding him. Of course, CNN will call this a draw. Ha.

[ChaoticTrilby]

207. And Obama brings it BACK to foreign policy.

AKA: The subject of the debate.

Saaawing! *POW*

[WinkyDink]

208. NEW THREAD:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021604928

[NYC Liberal]

209. "Governor, our alliances have never been stronger"

[politicaljack78]

212. especially after the Bush years...the fog of Romnesia strikes agains with his wrong and

wreckless policies.

[nolabear]

211. Sensata opening, Mr. President. Take it...

[rocktivity]

213. Romney isn't listening.

He's waiting.

rocktivity

[Hayabusa]

214. So, Romney, about small business...

My favorite store, which sells a very niche product (pen & paper RPGs and miniature wargames, etc) has been so successful in the last year that they've been able to expand their current store, now having either four or five storefronts in the strip mall that they're located in. How is that "failing?"

[reflection]

215. I don't Twitter. Someone do #MeltingMitt

[ehrnst]

216. Mitt Romney opposed bilingual education

during his campaign for Massachusetts governor.

[elleng]

217. Come on our website,getridofobamacare,

let states run medicaid, gets us tobalanced budget. RIGHT!!!???

The math DOESN''T work!

[littlemissmartypants]

218. .

Romnesia with verbal diarrhea ...

[animalcrackers]

219. with reference to the FDR comment

does Romney plan on fighting 2 wars at once lol?