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IcyPeas

(24,710 posts)
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:01 PM Nov 2021

Michael Flynn tonight says: we must have one religion under god

Michael Flynn tonight: “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.”




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Michael Flynn tonight says: we must have one religion under god (Original Post) IcyPeas Nov 2021 OP
Oh God. applegrove Nov 2021 #1
Hey, that First Amendment has been getting in the way SCantiGOP Nov 2021 #82
Which God Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #2
no , TFG is that gawd ! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #57
Yes Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #75
Or golden... calf, that is RepublicParty_Stank Nov 2021 #106
He does share a certain resemblance with Buddha. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2021 #92
shit , just wasted a roll of paper towels on the "puter" ! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #96
I'd forgotten that! BobTheSubgenius Nov 2021 #108
I didn't want to forget one because I laughed my ass off ! --- monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #112
Fine. Tell the Evangelicals to become Catholics NickB79 Nov 2021 #3
If you really want to hear them scream RepublicParty_Stank Nov 2021 #7
Or The UUs.... COL Mustard Nov 2021 #76
Tell all the Christians that they must become wnylib Nov 2021 #39
How about we tell all the Christians leftieNanner Nov 2021 #50
It would either terrify or anger the wnylib Nov 2021 #58
Love Thy Neighbor... COL Mustard Nov 2021 #77
Exactly. bamagal62 Nov 2021 #65
or the catholics to become Jewish mushroomhunter Nov 2021 #40
..certifible... Septua Nov 2021 #66
Cool. Which one? There a dozens of them. Srkdqltr Nov 2021 #4
Well religion bamagal62 Nov 2021 #5
..in the opinion of some, perhaps whathehell Nov 2021 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author bamagal62 Nov 2021 #64
Yes, I'm well aware of that... whathehell Nov 2021 #68
But there are a bunch bamagal62 Nov 2021 #70
Sounds okay to me.. whathehell Nov 2021 #86
Lots of religions bamagal62 Nov 2021 #55
He wants to start a HOLY WAR because bluestarone Nov 2021 #6
+100 Rhiannon12866 Nov 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author bamagal62 Nov 2021 #67
This!! PortTack Nov 2021 #83
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2021 #111
Jesus wept. (n/t) Moostache Nov 2021 #8
Welcome to the Christian Republic of the United States Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #9
Is he expecting America to have some kind of Spanish Inquisition? Xavier Breath Nov 2021 #10
Nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #13
rofl BootinUp Nov 2021 #20
Scary that this idiot was a General. eom guillaumeb Nov 2021 #11
His brother Pantagruel Nov 2021 #16
Recently assigned to command all Pacific Army forces. LastDemocratInSC Nov 2021 #56
He MAY not be as crazy as Mike. soldierant Nov 2021 #107
Why not one religion under the gods of Olympus? nt Shermann Nov 2021 #12
I'm Down With That Deep State Witch Nov 2021 #52
Of all the problems of the world Deuxcents Nov 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author bamagal62 Nov 2021 #71
"One Nation Under God" - Kevin M Kruse Jim__ Nov 2021 #15
Aha c mahina Nov 2021 #46
Excellent find. Thank you for posting a great summary. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #119
This is antisemitism. FalloutShelter Nov 2021 #17
As soon as they get rid of the Jews they'll go for the Catholics. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2021 #89
You know it. FalloutShelter Nov 2021 #99
The Catholics do not go by the King James Bible Norbert Nov 2021 #120
Where there it is folks! vlyons Nov 2021 #18
we must nausiatingly justify our sins is more like it. BootinUp Nov 2021 #19
Flynn's brother Pantagruel Nov 2021 #21
Well now bluestarone Nov 2021 #25
Important info from the article you provided a link to Kaleva Nov 2021 #26
I'm aware of nothing further stopdiggin Nov 2021 #34
Is he getting a military pension? Deuxcents Nov 2021 #22
Yes. sarge43 Nov 2021 #37
He's got some springs poking out of his mind mattress. Nt Baked Potato Nov 2021 #23
+1 OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2021 #28
Damn, I wish it was 1972 sometimes. Baked Potato Nov 2021 #32
Fuckim. marble falls Nov 2021 #24
What will they say/do when it is not their version of Christianity in charge? keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #27
We have plenty of folks who want to be the Christian Ayatollah of America keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #29
Bullshit. What's wrong with a goddess? dalton99a Nov 2021 #30
One nation without God. twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #31
all this under god stuff ? flynn never stated which god ? monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #88
The Orange one. twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #123
Reminds me of this: Qutzupalotl Nov 2021 #33
Coming from a man who worships the ground Donald Trump walks on. Doodley Nov 2021 #35
that's why he need's a piss test before he can talk ????? monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #53
Fine, I vote for the Goddess Beyonc tulipsandroses Nov 2021 #36
Parmesan Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #41
As a Jew, this makes me angry LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #42
As a Spiritual Person this makes me angry... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #118
Anti-american traitor to the best principles of this country. Salviati Nov 2021 #43
Puke !! TeamProg Nov 2021 #44
I'd rather fry in hell amb123 Nov 2021 #45
Oh...I guess we're totally done with America then. Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #48
It's Heinlein's "If This Goes On--" come to life... First Speaker Nov 2021 #49
I had forgotten about this. I went thru a serious Heinlein phase ms liberty Nov 2021 #84
Yeah, Flynnn and his ilk lonely bird Nov 2021 #98
Not the biggest Heinlein fan, but I'll have to look for this. electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #117
Stuff Like This Deep State Witch Nov 2021 #51
no ,that's what they want ,the easy way out , never quit !!! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #85
Ahem. I'm sure he meant Goddess. mahina Nov 2021 #54
That big Black woman in the sky 😺 RepublicParty_Stank Nov 2021 #97
OK IDIOT go ahead and bluestarone Nov 2021 #59
anyone else feel like court-martial is overdue? bringthePaine Nov 2021 #60
flynn sure makes the military like a fucking joke ! not a poster child that's for sure ? monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #87
from the party that "loves the Constitution" Takket Nov 2021 #61
first jew , then christian.... and what is thy neighbor. AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #62
What a crank. tblue37 Nov 2021 #63
Maybe God will tell us why he anointed Michael Flynn as His spokesman? bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #69
R'amen C_U_L8R Nov 2021 #72
If there is a god it should strike him down. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #73
Right? Where are those bamagal62 Nov 2021 #95
He's a fucking moron. rownesheck Nov 2021 #74
Somebody tell the dumb fuck that if he says that on campus at West Point, he'll be asked to leave. EarnestPutz Nov 2021 #78
The United Church of the Big Orange Slobfather? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #90
evil, evil ficker -nt Piasladic Nov 2021 #80
I'm in the mood for spaghetti OnlinePoker Nov 2021 #81
That. Is. Fucking. Dangerous. Xolodno Nov 2021 #91
F OFF!🤬 SammyWinstonJack Nov 2021 #93
The Conservative War Hawk visiting a mega church style gathering has always made me nervous PurgedVoter Nov 2021 #94
ever noticed ! go to a mega church & your wallet get's a group lighter !! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #101
I was in the 4th grade when frogmarch Nov 2021 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author bamagal62 Nov 2021 #102
America is doomed, unless we repent and get right with Thor. NCjack Nov 2021 #103
Let me guess. This male God and all his adherents is white, Golden Raisin Nov 2021 #104
Inshalla? cbabe Nov 2021 #105
Flynn really hates the USA. rockfordfile Nov 2021 #109
couldn't get laid & left a mark ! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #113
"God"... another cartoon character, like "Satan", Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #110
It's the ol' "wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." eShirl Nov 2021 #114
Q or Mammon? Kid Berwyn Nov 2021 #115
One religion, eh? OK, which of these two should it be? DFW Nov 2021 #116
I think it was Napoleon who said maxrandb Nov 2021 #121
God the father and god the son.......... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2021 #122

SCantiGOP

(14,630 posts)
82. Hey, that First Amendment has been getting in the way
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:05 PM
Nov 2021

of Christian Fascists for a couple of hundred years.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,165 posts)
92. He does share a certain resemblance with Buddha.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:44 PM
Nov 2021

And neither of them are gods, although Buddha is at least a light year closer.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
96. shit , just wasted a roll of paper towels on the "puter" !
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:52 PM
Nov 2021

"good one " ! they had the golden one at the rnc begga-thon of TFG ! that was so funny ! look'd like the AZTEC 'S worshiping a golden gawd !

BobTheSubgenius

(12,165 posts)
108. I'd forgotten that!
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:44 PM
Nov 2021

I'm not entirely convinced that the memory slip wasn't my subconscious deliberately trying to save me some mental strain. As minor a thing as it was, the sight of it threw me for a loop. I thought "HAS to be satire! What? No???"

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
112. I didn't want to forget one because I laughed my ass off ! ---
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:32 AM
Nov 2021

reminded me of " Raider's of the lost ark" movie ! a U.S. president looking that gawd damn stupid ! the republican taliban never in wildest imagination could be this ignorant. but ,sure is a blast watching every day make a fool out themselves & trey to get voters to vote for the stupid people on earth !

NickB79

(20,204 posts)
3. Fine. Tell the Evangelicals to become Catholics
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:04 PM
Nov 2021

They'll be screaming about religious freedom so loud you'll hear it on the other side of the planet.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
39. Tell all the Christians that they must become
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:01 PM
Nov 2021

Muslim and see how that goes over. That might unite Christians and Jews like never before in history.

Flynn is rabble rousing to stir up the RW nutters.

leftieNanner

(16,092 posts)
50. How about we tell all the Christians
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:11 PM
Nov 2021

That they have to actually ACT as Christ commanded them to act.

Love thy neighbor and all that.

Now THAT would make them scream!

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
58. It would either terrify or anger the
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:21 PM
Nov 2021

ones who believe that they are the only "true Christians," but would please the rest.

Response to whathehell (Reply #47)

whathehell

(30,323 posts)
68. Yes, I'm well aware of that...
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:42 PM
Nov 2021

and I agree that Michael Flynn is full of crap. That, however, was not what I was responding to.

Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

soldierant

(9,223 posts)
107. He MAY not be as crazy as Mike.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:28 PM
Nov 2021

Exhibit A - Paul Gosar, ALL of whose siblings want him ccommitted, or at least out of Congress and politics.

Deuxcents

(25,157 posts)
14. Of all the problems of the world
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:18 PM
Nov 2021

It’s religion. A personal decision that cannot be legislated. This from a man who has no decent core and he wants … o, shit. I’m just gonna say it.. he can go to hell..

Response to Deuxcents (Reply #14)

Jim__

(15,037 posts)
15. "One Nation Under God" - Kevin M Kruse
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:19 PM
Nov 2021

From history.princeton.edu





We’re often told that the United States is, was, and always has been a Christian nation. But in One Nation Under God, historian Kevin M. Kruse reveals that the idea of “Christian America” is an invention—and a relatively recent one at that. As Kruse argues, the belief that America is fundamentally and formally a Christian nation originated in the 1930s when businessmen enlisted religious activists in their fight against FDR’s New Deal. Corporations from General Motors to Hilton Hotels bankrolled conservative clergymen, encouraging them to attack the New Deal as a program of “pagan statism” that perverted the central principle of Christianity: the sanctity and salvation of the individual. Their campaign for “freedom under God” culminated in the election of their close ally Dwight Eisenhower in 1952.

But this apparent triumph had an ironic twist. In Eisenhower’s hands, a religious movement born in opposition to the government was transformed into one that fused faith and the federal government as never before. During the 1950s, Eisenhower revolutionized the role of religion in American political culture, inventing new traditions from inaugural prayers to the National Prayer Breakfast. Meanwhile, Congress added the phrase “under God” to the Pledge of Allegiance and made “In God We Trust” the country’s first official motto. With private groups joining in, church membership soared to an all-time high of 69%. For the first time, Americans began to think of their country as an officially Christian nation.

During this moment, virtually all Americans—across the religious and political spectrum—believed that their country was “one nation under God.” But as Americans moved from broad generalities to the details of issues such as school prayer, cracks began to appear. Religious leaders rejected this “lowest common denomination” public religion, leaving conservative political activists to champion it alone. In Richard Nixon’s hands, a politics that conflated piety and patriotism became sole property of the right.

Provocative and authoritative, One Nation Under God reveals how the unholy alliance of money, religion, and politics created a false origin story that continues to define and divide American politics to this day.

FalloutShelter

(14,086 posts)
17. This is antisemitism.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:20 PM
Nov 2021

It's not about Catholics, it's about Jews.
I am truly worried for my country.

Norbert

(7,505 posts)
120. The Catholics do not go by the King James Bible
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 07:01 AM
Nov 2021

Many practicing Catholics (not the radical ones Rick SAntorum i.e.) would be in for a rude awakening if the 'one religion' comes to fruition.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. Where there it is folks!
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:23 PM
Nov 2021

Christian Taliban, pure and simple. His way is the only way. He makes everyone wrong, so he can make himself feel right. He's demented. One sick puppy.

The founders of this country were well aware of the hundreds of years of religious wars that swept Europe. They were sick of it. They had all read Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason." They knew that people had fled Europe to get out from under the imposition of state religion. Well so much for upholding the constitution that as an army officer he swore an oath defend.

Kaleva

(40,106 posts)
26. Important info from the article you provided a link to
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:40 PM
Nov 2021

"There is no indication that Charles Flynn agrees with his brother, who was a vocal adherent of disputing President Joe Biden's victory on behalf of the former president."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/michael-flynn-brother-capitol-hill-riot/index.html

stopdiggin

(14,862 posts)
34. I'm aware of nothing further
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:53 PM
Nov 2021

beyond this initial reporting (which doesn't seem to be indicative of much of anything in particular - other than his name was left off list of participants on the call)


The Washington Post was the first to report Flynn's participation in the call.

"I entered the room after the call began and departed prior to the call ending, as I believed a decision was imminent from (then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy) and I needed to be in my office to assist in executing the decision," Flynn said in a statement released to CNN. There was no clear answer about how long Flynn was on the call or whether he contributed to the conversation.

Are you aware of further findings or implications?

Deuxcents

(25,157 posts)
22. Is he getting a military pension?
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:29 PM
Nov 2021

Are we as taxpayers contributing to his benefit in any way?

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
27. What will they say/do when it is not their version of Christianity in charge?
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:40 PM
Nov 2021

NC Lt. Gov. Robinson Declares That 'Christian Patriots' Will 'Own This Nation and Rule This Nation'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215997136

What will they say/do when it is not their version of Christianity in charge?

-----------------------------------

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/americas-true-history-of-religious-tolerance-61312684/?no-ist= ;

Madison also made a point that any believer of any religion should understand: that the government sanction of a religion was, in essence, a threat to religion. "Who does not see," he wrote, "that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?" Madison was writing from his memory of Baptist ministers being arrested in his native Virginia.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
29. We have plenty of folks who want to be the Christian Ayatollah of America
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:42 PM
Nov 2021

Dominionists. Theocracy... We have plenty of folks who want to be the Christian Ayatollah of America

tulipsandroses

(8,106 posts)
36. Fine, I vote for the Goddess Beyonc
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:57 PM
Nov 2021

That makes us much sense as all the nutty shit they say.

electric_blue68

(25,373 posts)
118. As a Spiritual Person this makes me angry...
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 06:26 AM
Nov 2021

Jews, Catholics (I'm a former one), Liberal Protestians, UUs, Muslims, Hindus, Jains, Ba hai, Shintoists, Wiccans, Animists, Aetheists, Agnostics, etc All their targets.

If it ever gets that far!

Salviati

(6,055 posts)
43. Anti-american traitor to the best principles of this country.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:07 PM
Nov 2021

And these know nothings cheer him on.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
48. Oh...I guess we're totally done with America then.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:10 PM
Nov 2021

Crumple up the Bill of Rights and throw it away. Maybe we can get a monarchy restarted, too. Maybe Queen Ivanka will rule us.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
49. It's Heinlein's "If This Goes On--" come to life...
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:11 PM
Nov 2021

...this remarkable story, written in *1940*, tells of the establishment of the American Theocracy under the First Prophet of the United States, Nehemiah Scudder. The election that brought him to power was, gulp, 2016... Whatever you think of Heinlein, he hated dictatorships, and was probably more accurate in his predictions than anyone else...

ms liberty

(10,872 posts)
84. I had forgotten about this. I went thru a serious Heinlein phase
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:14 PM
Nov 2021

And read it then; I think I eventually read everything he wrote. I've always liked The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but it's been years since I read any of his work. That might be something to consider for my winter reading, lol. Thanks for the idea!

lonely bird

(2,666 posts)
98. Yeah, Flynnn and his ilk
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:55 PM
Nov 2021

Are the “stories unwritten” regarding the rise of Nehemiah Scudder.

Enough of their crap. Any of their fellow travelers such as conservative Catholics will find themselves in deep shit if these asshats are successful.

mahina

(20,256 posts)
54. Ahem. I'm sure he meant Goddess.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:14 PM
Nov 2021

I’ll have office hours of 12-2 daily except Mondays starting the first day I collect my Goddess taxes.

97. That big Black woman in the sky 😺
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:54 PM
Nov 2021

is how a very liberal N California bay area radio talk show host (Ray Taliaferro) used to refer to God—Goddess, excuse me—and boy would that light up the phones, as intended by that great broadcaster.

bluestarone

(20,980 posts)
59. OK IDIOT go ahead and
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:23 PM
Nov 2021

Name what religion it should be. All the QTHUGLICONS will tear you apart.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
87. flynn sure makes the military like a fucking joke ! not a poster child that's for sure ?
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:23 PM
Nov 2021

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
74. He's a fucking moron.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:55 PM
Nov 2021

Good thing only about 7 people are watching whatever the fuck show he's on.

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
78. Somebody tell the dumb fuck that if he says that on campus at West Point, he'll be asked to leave.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:00 PM
Nov 2021

Even the Air Force Academy has cleaned house of their RWNJ administrators and teachers and that kind of bullshit won't go over like it used to.

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #79)

Xolodno

(7,276 posts)
91. That. Is. Fucking. Dangerous.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:43 PM
Nov 2021

Imperial Russia => Russian Orthodox only => Persecution against those who refuse.

Catholic Nations => See above.

Islamic Theocratic Nations => See above.

PurgedVoter

(2,660 posts)
94. The Conservative War Hawk visiting a mega church style gathering has always made me nervous
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:50 PM
Nov 2021

The OP led me to look up americanfaith.com listed as a presenter.
Phil Hotsenpiller, self described Biblical prophecy expert and Senior Pastor of Influence Church launched americanfaith.com a news media with his biblical perspective.
Part of his bio lists being a teaching pastor of Yorba Linda Friends Church, a non pacifist Quaker mega church in Southern California.

So he is a mega church evangelist, self promoting Quaker, biblical prophecy expert, entrepreneur, founder and President of New York Executive Coaching Group, graphic novel writing, wine expert, scholar with a bachelors, masters, and study at Oxford. His various biographies get pretty broad and the feel is more like what a hack conservative writer would give as the bio for their amazing main character.

Unless you are telling where you got the degree, usually, folk with a masters, don't go out of their way to say they have a bachelors degree.

Here is an example of one of his biographies, you be the judge.

Phil Hotsenpiller is the teaching pastor of Yorba Linda Friends Church, a mega church in Southern California. He is the founder and President of New York Executive Coaching Group, and co-author of a seven-part business series entitled Passionate Lives and Leaders. Phil holds a bachelors and Masters degree with additional post-graduate studies at Oxford University. Phil is one of the founding partners of 12 Gates Productions and is the writer of the Armageddon Now! This graphic novel series is a creative and innovative merger of biblical prophesy, super heroes and "ripped from the headlines" news. Armageddon Now! presents a bold and daring vision of the coming Apocalypse.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
101. ever noticed ! go to a mega church & your wallet get's a group lighter !!
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:00 PM
Nov 2021

friend of mine told me that . he finally got smart to that shit ! they wanted 30 % of his income to help support the church !

frogmarch

(12,250 posts)
100. I was in the 4th grade when
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:59 PM
Nov 2021

"under God" was added to the Pledge. A budding atheist in a Christian family, I refused to say it, and my teacher made me go to the front of the classroom, bend over, and stick my head in the wastebasket while the Pledge was being recited.

My grandchildren weren't taught to say the Pledge with "under God" in it, and neither are my great-grandchildren.

Response to IcyPeas (Original post)

Golden Raisin

(4,746 posts)
104. Let me guess. This male God and all his adherents is white,
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:09 PM
Nov 2021

vaguely resembles a cross between Brad Pitt and Charlton Heston and speaks American English.

maxrandb

(17,077 posts)
121. I think it was Napoleon who said
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 07:06 AM
Nov 2021

"Religion is what keeps the poor from eating the rich"

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,753 posts)
122. God the father and god the son..........
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 07:37 AM
Nov 2021

tRump is his god and the U.S. greenback is the son.....





KY

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