whew, this is rough. New thread re: Obama firing Flynn after Russia invasion of Ukraine.

[Grasswire2]

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[Sugarcoated]

1. Flat out traitor to the country

Deserves to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. I hope and pray for justice.

[Grasswire2]

2. And his brother is in command of the Army in the Pacific.

....after the brother was on the phone call from Capitol Police begging for National Guard and the Army subsequently lying about Flynn's participation in the call.

Everything about Flynns stinks.

[lagomorph777]

5. The asshole who held off the National Guard on Jan 6th is still employed?

WTF?

[leftieNanner]

13. Even Worse

He got promoted.

[Grasswire2]

14. Yes. Commander of the U.S. Army in the Pacific.

(does not include Korea, that's a separate command)

[Sugarcoated]

6. The President needs to fire his ass

immediately. Charles Flynn being in charge of anything militarily puts our country at risk for harm. Wtf

[uponit7771]

16. omfg, you mean the guy who was in the room when the US armed forces where held back for 3 hrs

[Grasswire2]

18. YES!

And the Army initially lied about him being on that call.

[uponit7771]

21. yep, all public statements too ... no CT ... shit

[lagomorph777]

26. What's "CT"?

[BeerBarrelPolka]

27. Conspiracy Theory

[soldierant]

39. I have been saying

you can't assume a person is a criminal just because a sibling is - look at Paul Gosar, whose siblings all want him out of Congress because he's nuts.

In this case, however, you just shot that all to helll.

[stopdiggin]

40. you should really return to your former position.

There is little indication that Charles Flynn either shares his brother's political views or agenda - or, that he had any particular role in Jan 6th decisions (beyond being "in the room" for a conference call) regarding National Guard mobilization. If information (or allegation) beyond this is available - I have not yet run across it. So - at this point it would seem that slandering Charles Flynn really is a mater of tarring with the same brush.

- CNN - Jan. 21, 2021 - "I entered the room after the call began and departed prior to the call ending, as I believed a decision was imminent from (then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy) and I needed to be in my office to assist in executing the decision," Flynn said in a statement released to CNN. There was no clear answer about how long Flynn was on the call or whether he contributed to the conversation.

The Washington Post reports that the Army "falsely denied for days that Lt. Gen. Charles A. Flynn" was involved in the key meetings. One of the officials who was on the call told CNN in the days following the insurrection at the Capitol that Flynn was not on the calls, but the military did not confirm his participation until Wednesday.

There is no indication that Charles Flynn agrees with his brother, who was a vocal adherent of disputing President Joe Biden's victory on behalf of the former president.

[soldierant]

52. Clearly more evidence is needed.

And I'm not deserting the principle. I specifcally said "in this case." If I'm wrong, no one will be happier than I.

[Walleye]

3. I always suspected that he was the one responsible for miss leading Hillary in the Benghazi incident

[JT45242]

12. Benghazi was function of the sequester so blame Cancun Cruz

Any root cause analysis of the Benghazi events would go back to the mandatory budget cuts brought about by the sequester fiasco, orchestratde by Cancun Cruz and McConnell, that removed marine protections and switched over to locals. The locals in Benghazi did not walk away and surrender like the Afghani military did this year, but the insurgents all knew that they were not as well trained and were not as large in number as the previous protectors.

Laying Benghazi at Flynn's feet seems to miss the point that he appears to have been on Putin's payroll long before any of the rest of noticed (when he latched onto tRump)

He still needs to rot in jail after being interrogated and all the oney in all his accounts seized and sanctions laid on any russian who has paid him over the last 12 years.

[Sur Zobra]

4. His remarks on the the Crimea invasion

are incomprehensible

[OAITW r.2.0]

7. Important story.

Flynn, Trump, Manafort and a whole supporting cast of US Traitors.

[OMGWTF]

24. Paul "Jailbird" Manafort is the one who wanted Pence as VP

Shitler had never even met Pence. Blow the fking lid off of this treachery.

[ffr]

8. I have always assumed Russia was bankrolling everything Republicans do to take down our country

It's in both of their interests. And the Rs make no secret about it. Fines mean nothing to them.

[LuvLoogie]

29. Why would the GOP care about fines, when exposure means the gallows?

[temporary311]

9. Sounds like he should've been court-martialed, not just fired.

Assuming this is true, Flynn should be rotting away in Leavenworth. A refusal to properly punish right wingers is one of this countries biggest faults. Whether it was Confederate leaders, the Business Plot conspirators, Nixon, Iran Contra, or now Flynn, Trump et al, it really causes incalculable harm.

[Grasswire2]

15. It could be done.

He could be called up to active duty, and then court martialed, as I understand it.

[CrispyQ]

46. I've read that, too, but our side would never do something so bold & controversial.

It's better not to appear partisan, & let the man work on the next insurrection.

[Grasswire2]

50. yes, we mustn't look poltical!

The republic is crashing around us, but we must rely on a few memos written as opinions by people such as John Yoo, and only act with propriety then!

Sun Tzu. The art of war. The RW is using our strengths against us, as they did when they convinced Al Gore that it wouldn't be in his gentlemanly nature to fight for his rightful and lawful election win.

[2Gingersnaps]

51. Absolutely, there is no consequence for outright treason.

Based on the "but, but, as soon as we get in again we can hit you with all sorts of investigations." SO? Isn't that exactly what they did to Clinton? FFS they tried to make Robert Bork a Supreme Court Justice because he fired Cox for Nixon during the Saturday Night Massacre, Nixon promised Bork the next seat on the Supreme Court, and the R's are still pissed Bork did not get the nomination.

[Evolve Dammit]

10. Traitor. In his own words.

[calimary]

11. We should all note the question Flynn MUST face. And be repeatedly asked.

“Whose side are you on? Moscow’s or ours?”

[uponit7771]

17. omfg, "... then he [Flynn] flew to Russia to meet Putin..."

[Grasswire2]

19. and after that, the photo with Jill Stein et al. nt

[gab13by13]

20. DOJ should investigate Flynn, right?

Does Garland need a referral like he got for Bannon or why can't he do it on his own?

[ancianita]

38. The Jan 6 committee served him a subpoena Nov 8 to turn in records by Nov 23 and

give a deposition by December 6.

He, Meadows and the other 17 people summoned will get equal treatment from the DOJ with criminal referrals.

Perhaps the problem is the congressional vote, that it won't hold up for the rest like it did for Bannon.

[ancianita]

47. EXACTLY. This Republican DOJ suddenly wants a legacy of "process" and patience. We're stuck

with slow roll assholes. It's ludicris. Sorry, Chin, you asked for it

[OMGWTF]

22. That's right -- LOCK HIM UP! Fking Traitor

[Hekate]

23. KnR

[Submariner]

25. I hope he gets Jimmy Hoffa'd by fellow retired generals

Slimeball.

[Mr. Ected]

28. I wonder what it sounded like when Putin said the words "Lock Her Up" to Flynn the first time

How much of our Republican "politics" are simply regurgitations of Russian propaganda?

What a disjointed, misdirected public we have, to be able to pull the wool over so many's eyes while committing treason in broad daylight.

[Kid Berwyn]

30. So THAT's why Obama told Drumpf not to hire Flynn.

Obama warned Trump against hiring Flynn before inauguration

By JULIE PACE
AP, May 8, 2017

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama personally warned Donald Trump against hiring Michael Flynn to serve as his national security adviser, three former Obama administration officials said Monday, underscoring the depths of the outgoing White House’s concern about the man Trump would ultimately fire.

In an Oval Office meeting with Trump two days after the November election, Obama told his successor that there were more qualified candidates for the crucial White House post, according to one official. Flynn was fired as head of military intelligence by the Obama administration in 2014 amid questions about his management style and reports of insubordination. He became a fierce critic of Obama’s policies and a fervent Trump supporter.

SNIP…

Monday’s revelation from Obama administration officials came hours before former acting Attorney General Sally Yates and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified before a Senate panel investigating the Russian election interference. Yates detailed her own warnings to the Trump White House about Flynn, including meetings with the White House counsel in which she said that discrepancies over Flynn’s contacts with the Russian envoy left him vulnerable to blackmail by Moscow.

“You don’t want your national security adviser compromised with the Russians,” Yates told a Senate panel investigating Russia’s election interference.

CONTINUES…

https://apnews.com/article/b7a8fa3fdb07444fa13474377295d087

[Baitball Blogger]

31. Why was this man allowed to go free for so long!!!

This is infuriating. I'm guessing that they can only 'git him' if they can build up public outrage. Because, we don't hear about the details about anything important until they're ready to drop the boom.

[Qutzupalotl]

32. It's even worse.

Flynn was head of DIA during the theft of the NSA’s spying tools. They wound up on the Russian black market…somehow. These were the crown jewels of our intel agencies. Now any hacker can get to any connected computer.

[ReadItnWeep]

33. Wow! So much treachery ignored by press

I had never heard about that NSA stuff. I am constantly flabbergasted that the MSM will go weeks harping on bs stories that are basically Republican outrage memes - based on sound bites instead of substance. And they let the actual, serious crimes fade out of public view.
For instance, remember at the very end of TFGs term when there was a major hack on government computers, including DOJ and many others? IIRC it was described as the largest breach on our systems ever and all the experts said the consequences would be dire. Of course, Russia eventually was said to behind the attack. And during the reporting, Trump had No Comment. Let me say that again, Trump said nothing. The man who will always have nonsense to spout in all circumstances. Doesn't it seem likely that Trump,or his sycophants that he appointed, just "handed over the keys" to the USA on their way out? Probably as a precondition to all the help he got since announcing he would run for president. FFS Trump was letting people take furnishings out of the White House the last few days! And that was caught on camera but never mentioned again!

[area51]

36. A belated welcome to DU.

[C Moon]

34. Like Germany did to the nazi party, the Greedy Old Party needs to be dissolved.

They are compromised beyond any hope.

[Ilsa]

35. Bookmarked. K& R. nt

[SunSeeker]

37. K & R for exposure.

[Javaman]

41. The right wing was always so hot and bothered

By a “manchurian candidate” and here they have one right in their own group and think he’s a “patriot”

[Grasswire2]

49. I used to monitor freerepublic.com

They were always considered RW. The RW was so different then, mostly -- they ADORED George W. He was perfectly great, in their eyes. A traditionalist. Now they adore and rabidly support Trump and Flynn and all the evil -- and they are fanatics. The transition is stunning.