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captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:09 AM Nov 2021

I grew up rurally around guns. It was a different world then.

Learned to shoot my brother's ,22, and got my forst gun when I was 11 (410 shotgun). We did a lot of shooting back then though we were always careful never to shoot in any direction towards any people. This is 60s and 70s in Ohio. I bought a couple pistols when I was in my 20-30s, one of which I still have and never have fired. No one I knew had a pistol. I haven't fired a gun for probably 30 years

I kind of remember when guns started being fetishized. A guy at work bought a AR type gun. Back then you could only have a 10 shot magazine, and handguns could only have the same. I remember I used to give the guy shit and say he'd sit around at night drinking and fondeling his gun. You know, I nailed that way back then, I've never thought that was an out of line description. At least people back then were familiar with guns, and there were rules like no large capacity magazines. It is scary how many guns are out there, and what types. With all the gun violence congress still hasn't acted. Guys like Kyle are just itching to try out their toy,

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I grew up rurally around guns. It was a different world then. (Original Post) captain queeg Nov 2021 OP
At my rural high school everyone had guns and knives pfitz59 Nov 2021 #1
Yeah. I'd say we had more violence back then, but just physical fights captain queeg Nov 2021 #2
I was around them all my life vercetti2021 Nov 2021 #3
I grew up without guns American Interregnum Nov 2021 #4
I grew up without guns. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #24
I've never even been in the same room where someone had a gun privately. BlueLucy Nov 2021 #5
Can I ask why now? maxsolomon Nov 2021 #25
I though maybe I wrote this and forgot. JohnnyRingo Nov 2021 #6
That's funny. When I read yours I wondered, pretty similar captain queeg Nov 2021 #9
I'll be in your neighborhood tonight. JohnnyRingo Nov 2021 #19
Knew you were close captain queeg Nov 2021 #20
Cabala's wants $600 for a Nylon 66 today. I never had a Nylon 66 my dad doc03 Nov 2021 #16
Well, for plinking a .22 auto is pretty handy. Didn't know they still sold the 66 and how much it captain queeg Nov 2021 #22
That is the old vintage ones from back doc03 Nov 2021 #23
I grew up around them too. kaotikross Nov 2021 #7
My urban high school had a rifle range Thunderbeast Nov 2021 #8
We spent a week in PE class target shooting at the college rifle range (9th grade) hatrack Nov 2021 #14
We live in a rural area, 60% Republican and 40% Democrat. marie999 Nov 2021 #10
Yorktown High School, Arlington County, Virginia, 22207 mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #11
+1 Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #12
Rotcy people who were on the rifle team would carry their guns on the school bus. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #13
It WAS a different world... Septua Nov 2021 #15
Pretty much the same here. stopdiggin Nov 2021 #17
it changed with the "Cincinnati Revolution" maxsolomon Nov 2021 #26
Well said. (nt) Paladin Nov 2021 #18
Gun violence was actually higher back then. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #21
it was all good onethatcares Nov 2021 #27
Gun owners that spend too much time with them LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #28
As I frequently say here, gun fetishes are disgusting. hunter Nov 2021 #29
Grew up to respect them, not worship them Ishoutandscream2 Nov 2021 #30
My experience exactly. shrike3 Nov 2021 #31
I'm sure this won't turn into 48656c6c6f20 Nov 2021 #32

pfitz59

(12,704 posts)
1. At my rural high school everyone had guns and knives
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:13 AM
Nov 2021

guns in the truck. knives on the belt. fighting was done with fists. guns were for killing game. knives were for skinning. we had fisjung poles as well

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
2. Yeah. I'd say we had more violence back then, but just physical fights
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:16 AM
Nov 2021

The idea of bringing a gun or even a knife would never even be considered.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
3. I was around them all my life
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:19 AM
Nov 2021

I've learned to shoot from age 12. Almost each weekend I'd be shooting my .22, my .45 and a shotgun. The model escapes me. But I was taught to hunt. Though I never could bring myself to kill an animal. So instead I did target and skeet shooting. I had more fun with recreational shooting instead of game. I own a small handful of guns. Rifles and handguns. But nothing military grade since I never believed a normal and I mean normal civilian needed something the military uses. Sadly now I don't get much recreational in since ammunition supplies are lowered nowadays thanks to the paranoid right nutters.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
24. I grew up without guns.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 01:40 PM
Nov 2021

I've lived in big cities my whole life, sometimes in dangerous neighborhoods.

I've never bought one. That's not a coincidence.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
5. I've never even been in the same room where someone had a gun privately.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 04:34 AM
Nov 2021

I've never held one in my hand. I am thinking about buying one now.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
25. Can I ask why now?
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 01:42 PM
Nov 2021

To protect yourself from other people with guns?

Because a well-regulated Militia is necessary for the security of a free state?

JohnnyRingo

(20,870 posts)
6. I though maybe I wrote this and forgot.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 04:36 AM
Nov 2021

Growing up in NE Ohio, after my Daisy, I had a Remington Nylon 66 semi that fired .22s. There was always a brick or two of ammo laying around so plinking became a pastime. I couldn't have a pistol until I turned 21 and went on a buying spree of Colt single action armys. Some were in commemorative boxes and never fired. Bad times came in the '90s and they were gone.

All except one. I still have My 100 year old 1908 Colt hammerless Model .380 that I keep around, but I very seldom shoot it.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
9. That's funny. When I read yours I wondered, pretty similar
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 06:26 AM
Nov 2021

And I had a Remington 66 nylon. I had the one with the 7 shot clip. I sorta wished I’d gotten the other one with the 10 shot tubular feed. I got that a little later because they had such a reputation of never jamming and that seemed to be a problem with a lot of auto loaders. I still have it in storage. Also NE Ohio. Not too far from KSU.

JohnnyRingo

(20,870 posts)
19. I'll be in your neighborhood tonight.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 11:28 AM
Nov 2021

Now if you tell me you're going to the Wallflowers concert at the Kent Stage I'll really freak out. I live near Mosquito Lake.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
20. Knew you were close
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 12:19 PM
Nov 2021

But I don’t live there any more. Grew up in Garretsville but I moved out to WA quite awhile ago. Used to fish for walleye on Mosquito.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
16. Cabala's wants $600 for a Nylon 66 today. I never had a Nylon 66 my dad
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 09:41 AM
Nov 2021

bought me a Remington bolt action with a wooden stock. To my dad a plastic stock would be
like desecrating a gun, guns had wood stocks period and if you knew how to shoot all you needed was one shot.
I quit hunting 20 years ago, I just lost interest in killing harmless animals. I still have 4 long guns and
6 handguns and shoot target occasionally. I have never had any desire to own an AR-15 style rifle and don't
think a civilian should own one. I am like my dad rifle stocks are American Walnut a bolt action rifle or pump shotgun
are for hunting. Semi autos are for wasting ammo and killing people.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
22. Well, for plinking a .22 auto is pretty handy. Didn't know they still sold the 66 and how much it
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 12:28 PM
Nov 2021

cost nowadays I think it was around $100 when I bought it. That said, .22s kill a lot of people and I don’t think a lot of people realize it’s not a BB gun. I actually had a friend years ago that considered it not much more than a BB gun. I wouldn’t know where to go nowadays to safely shoot. I guess a gun range, but back then we’d just go out in the woods.

kaotikross

(246 posts)
7. I grew up around them too.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 04:48 AM
Nov 2021

A lot of liberals own guns, we just don't fetishize them. I would say the problem isn't the weapons so much as it is the conservative and criminal elements thinking they're the solution to every problem, no matter how small and no slight, no matter how insignificant, need be ignored because if it escalates they can always "go get their gun". In that respect conservatives are no different than gang bangers.
I was amused by how easily cons threw the "good guy with a gun" theory out the window regarding Gaige Grossewitz (spelling?) who was an actual legal "good guy with a gun" just to support Kryin' Kyle. The smarter potatriots of course saw the problem with this so the NRA/GQP Meme Brigade had to get the rank and file dumbassery that make up the base believe he was illegal.
Naturally, when any potatriot had this pointed out to them on social media they decried it as "fake news", even when proof was provided because it ruins the "Kyle was cleanin' up the dirtbags" narrative.

Thunderbeast

(3,819 posts)
8. My urban high school had a rifle range
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 04:58 AM
Nov 2021

in the basement below the library.

Liberal western city.

Go figure...

hatrack

(64,889 posts)
14. We spent a week in PE class target shooting at the college rifle range (9th grade)
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 09:06 AM
Nov 2021

It was fun, and nobody thought anything of it (this would have been 1975 or 1976, IIRC).

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
10. We live in a rural area, 60% Republican and 40% Democrat.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 07:16 AM
Nov 2021

We own rifles and pistols. Many of the people hunt so there are a lot of rifles. How many own pistols I don't know, but I have never seen anyone open carry one. We have lived here for 20 years and never a murder in that time. In the nearest city, Jacksonville NC, I haven't seen an open carry, but there have been murders.

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,854 posts)
11. Yorktown High School, Arlington County, Virginia, 22207
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 07:39 AM
Nov 2021

It's as blue as can be. I don't know where the kids go now, if anywhere. Maybe Joint Base Fort Myer-Henderson Hall.

A lot of military families live in Arlington.

Arlington Delays Closure Of School Shooting Range

By Jennifer Lenhart June 18, 1999

The only rifle range in the Arlington school system, which had been targeted for closure, won't be shut down for at least another month, the Arlington School Board decided last night. ... In a 3 to 2 vote, the School Board rejected the recommendation offered by Superintendent Robert G. Smith to immediately close the range, convert it to storage space and turn what is now used for storage into two classrooms. Board Chair Darlene M. Mickey and Vice Chair Libby Garvey voted in favor of closing the range.

Smith's recommendation came in response to parents' concerns after the shootings at a Littleton, Colo., high school in April. Some parents objected to the Yorktown High School rifle range, questioning whether students should be allowed to fire guns in school. ... Garvey said she favored closing the range as soon as possible, but added, "This is not about ending the program, it's about moving it." Mickey said her objection was not about safety, but about space.

In a follow-up action, the board voted unanimously for a recommendation made by board members Elaine S. Furlow and Mary H. Hynes to ask school officials to investigate alternative sites for the range. ... Furlow and Hynes said they wanted to know whether such sites exist, and the cost of using alternative ranges. The board agreed to address the issue again July 14. In another motion, members approved the creation of two new classrooms.

"I understand and respect all of the concerns about young people having guns at school," Hynes said. "We need to continue to support the team. It's important for kids to be on it. It's important for kids to get a [varsity sports] letter." The Yorktown range is one of three in the Potomac High School Rifle League. The others are at Landon School in Bethesda and St. John's College Academy in Northwest Washington.

Yorktown's range opened in 1967 to accommodate the school's rifle team, which was established in 1962 and practiced at a now-defunct range at Fort Myer. About 55 teenagers use the range, including the team at Arlington's Washington-Lee High School and the teenage rifle club sponsored by the Optimists Club. ... Students who use the Yorktown range, which is open only after school hours, either bring their own -- unloaded -- weapons to school in gun cases or use the school's 22 long-rifle caliber single-shot target rifles. These guns, which are stored in a locked cabinet when not in use, are designed for target shooting and must be reloaded after every shot, rifle coaches said.

{snip}

Septua

(2,957 posts)
15. It WAS a different world...
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 09:41 AM
Nov 2021

..and gun owners were responsible. School, restaurant, Walmart, church, concert etc shootings were virtually non-existent. "Guns don't kill; people do" was an accurate observation...and still is.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
17. Pretty much the same here.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 09:57 AM
Nov 2021

Guns were extremely common (and no one gave it much thought) - and attitudes were extremely different. No one thought the 2nd amendment was a political football - and no one was walking around with a big chip on their shoulder.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
26. it changed with the "Cincinnati Revolution"
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 01:47 PM
Nov 2021

when LaRouche et al took control of the NRA and began making guns political.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_at_Cincinnati

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
21. Gun violence was actually higher back then.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 12:23 PM
Nov 2021

Until this last year, homicides were at the lowest level they’d been at since the 1950’s. The 70s, 80s, and 90s especially were far more violent eras. We do have a new problem now and that’s mass shootings and right wing violence. It must be dealt with by banning assault weapons, making all guns harder to get i.e a waiting period, licensing, etc.

onethatcares

(16,992 posts)
27. it was all good
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:06 PM
Nov 2021

up until the Dirty Harry movies and Charles Bronson movies came out then alot of idiots decided they would act the roles out.

With Thanksgiving coming up this post brought up memories of hunting without adult supervision the morning of. Marlin over/under .22/410 single shot nylon stock rifle for squirrel and rabbit. I was 13.

hunter

(40,691 posts)
29. As I frequently say here, gun fetishes are disgusting.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:03 PM
Nov 2021

I don't have any problem with hunting for dinner. In a lot of ways that's more honest than buying meat in the grocery store. I also recognize the utility of guns on ranches and farms. (I don't have any fondness for ground squirrels...)

Nevertheless I haven't hunted in the 21st century, partly because my wife is vegetarian approaching vegan and I'm mostly vegetarian, and partly because there are too many whack jobs gun fetishists out there.

My great grandparents were all Wild West. In the family tradition fools and their guns were soon parted.

Another tradition I learned was to never let anyone I'd care to shoot live in my head.

Imagining the sorts of people one would care to shoot makes one a fool. Kyle Rittenhouse is a good example of that.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,783 posts)
30. Grew up to respect them, not worship them
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:34 PM
Nov 2021

Same thing as mentioned above. And yes, it's true. Rifles would be mounted in some students' pickup trucks, right in the high school parking lot. No one made a big deal, and no one ever thought of shooting someone else. It was a different time.

By the way, I'm not a "gun nut". Even though I live in Texas, I own no guns and haven't shot one since I was a teenager. I never got into them.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
31. My experience exactly.
Tue Nov 16, 2021, 04:54 PM
Nov 2021

Everyone had a shotgun to protect livestock. Or, a gun to deer hunt. Guns were tools. Now they are, like you said, a fetish.
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