I don't get right wing logic. So if Rittenhouse was

[tulipsandroses]

right for defending himself. According to him, he feared for his life. Why isn’t the same logic applied to Ahmad Arberry? Or even going back to Trayvon Martin, a 15 yr old kid that went to the store to buy skittles. Why doesn’t self defense apply to them? Both of whom were minding their own business, and not carrying AR 15 style weapons.

[doc03]

7. I learned that you have a duty to retreat before using a concealed carry weapon but

under the stand your ground laws now its "I felt threatened".

[AZ8theist]

25. You think he was actually crying??

I thought that was the biggest fake acting job I've ever witnessed.

[ProfessorGAC]

9. The Original Claim Was...

...he was there to defend a car dealership.
But, there's video of him parading down the street, not on dealership property.
Seems a provocative action to me.
Perhaps had he stayed on the dealership property, none of this would have occurred.
Of course, he could be lying through his teeth about the "protecting the dealership" thing.

[Progressive Jones]

30. There was also testimony from the dealer that he hadn't asked anyone for protection. nt

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Saw That As Well

So, that piece of the defense was a fabrication from the beginning.

[a kennedy]

13. You heard his defense didn't ya?? He was there to help his community.....

he was painting over graffiti earlier in the day…..

[ShazzieB]

35. "His" community ... that he does not live in!

How the hell is Kenosha "his" community? He doesn't live there. He doesn't even live in the same state!

Seriously, the idea that he was defending "his" community, when he lives in a different town, in a whole different state, is absolutely absurd (even if it WAS an excuse for what he did, which it's not).

[The Magistrate]

36. 'Apprehenders' Seems To Have Been Mis-Spelled, Ma'am

Two citizens attempted apprehension of a man they had every reason and right to believe was a fleeing murderer, still carrying the gun he had already killed with.

That is courage and civic responsibility of the highest order.

[FoxNewsSucks]

37. Absolutely!

Kyle Slaughter is a murderer, and his lousy mother an accomplice.

He went there to shoot his illegal gun and become a "big manly man". He deserves the gas chamber, or life in prison.

[dflprincess]

40. "Kyle Rittenhouse initiated confrontation with 1st man he fatally shot at Kenosha protest,

prosecutor argues"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-rittenhouse-trial-begins-1.6233850

The prosecution is expected to argue that Rittenhouse was looking for a chance to use his weapon and was the aggressor in the deaths of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26, and in the shooting of Gaige Grosskreutz, 27, who survived.

Binger emphasized in his opening remarks that the first of the men Rittenhouse killed, Rosenbaum, was shot in the back. The prosecutor noted that the first two shots hit Rosenbaum in the lower extremities, causing him to fall forward. Then came the shot to the back.

Binger also said that after Rittenhouse initiated the confrontation with Rosenbaum and shot him, he then fled the scene instead of rendering aid, despite portraying himself as a medic earlier in the night.

Hard to claim self defense when you shoot someone in the back. Even harder to claim that you were the victim when you've shot someone in the back & people are trying to catch you.

[Rebl2]

28. Exactly

[FBaggins]

2. Not sure what the point is here

If either one had been charged with assault then self defense could very well have applied.

[Arkansas Granny]

3. Right wing logic is an oxymoron.

[BigmanPigman]

6. You beat me to it.

[tulipsandroses]

8. Lol, I know I shouldn't bother trying to understand

their pretzel thinking. I just want things to make sense.

[3catwoman3]

20. Took the words right out...

…of my keyboard!

[certainot]

29. decided by the unchallenged buzz from 1500 coordinated radio stations well trained to rationalize

and enable republican hypocrisy

we don't even poll for it and media leaders live in cities - when are democrats going to figure it out?

[NoMoreRepugs]

4. No such thing as ReichWing logic.

[happy feet]

27. This!

White supremacy

[certainot]

32. their logic is part of a centuries old dance trying to ease fear of uncertainty caused by masturbat

masturbation with the hand connected to the left side of the brain and exacerbated by a genetic predisposition for sex on the wrong brain

they're mixing sex with logic and their brains are trying to end the thinking ASAP, to find finality/orgasm in absolutes and have learned to deny reality to create irrational certainty or accept it from insane sowb driven dictator wannabes like tfg

[NoMoreRepugs]

44. Might need a second cup of coffee to wade thru that again.

[Nictuku]

5. The dead can't speak

[Turbineguy]

10. If you kill somebody, for any reason....

That's good. RW logic.

[iemanja]

11. Seriously?

It's all about race, like most things for the GOP.

[onecaliberal]

14. He's a white supremacist asswipe, we all know the answer.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. Make it make sense.

Link to tweet

[MyOwnPeace]

18. DING, DING, DING!!!!!!! We have a winner!!!!!

My GAWD, doesn't THAT say it all..................

[Crepuscular]

23. ...

But on the flip side of that, if you want to eliminate the contradiction, the meme would be " Ashli Babbit should have been shot for rioting" ergo "kyle is a hero for shooting rioters".

I don't see too many tears being shed for Ashli Babbit being shot, the prevailing feeling seems to be she got what she deserved for threatening Congress, essentially play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Or are you ok with embracing the logical contradiction, the guy who shot Ashli was justified in using lethal force to stop an immediate threat but Rittenhouse was not justified in using lethal force to stop immediate threats?

The reality is that they were two very different situations, outside of occurring during a riot and comparing the two is pretty weak sauce.

[MyOwnPeace]

34. I'm not buying the

'immediate threats' claim - thus I'm more than OK with embracing the logical contradiction.
The kid went out looking for trouble - he got it. But he's a RW hero.
Babbit went out looking for trouble - she got it. Now she's a martyr.

[Crepuscular]

39. ...

I'd say they both went out looking for trouble and they are both idiots.

That being said, I don't think the prosecution proved their case and that Rittenhouse has legitimate self defense claims, based on Wisconsin law. I don't cry any tears for Ashli Babbit, she was a dumb-ass. I don't have many tears either for the three that Rittenhouse shot, had any of them walked away, not pursued Rittenhouse I doubt that they would have gotten shot.

I generally view the outcomes of both of these incidents along the play stupid games, win stupid prizes lens, if you show up for a riot, be prepared for the shit that goes with it. Nothing good usually happens after midnight.

[MyOwnPeace]

43. "Nothing good usually happens after midnight...."

A-MEN, Brother!

[pinkstarburst]

47. Sadly, I agree with you

That being said, I don't think the prosecution proved their case and that Rittenhouse has legitimate self defense claims, based on Wisconsin law. I don't cry any tears for Ashli Babbit, she was a dumb-ass. I don't have many tears either for the three that Rittenhouse shot, had any of them walked away, not pursued Rittenhouse I doubt that they would have gotten shot.

I generally view the outcomes of both of these incidents along the play stupid games, win stupid prizes lens, if you show up for a riot, be prepared for the shit that goes with it. Nothing good usually happens after midnight.

I honestly have a lot more sympathy for the people who have gotten legitimately caught up in the middle of riots because they were caught in traffic while they were on their way home from work and an angry mob attacked their car and they panicked, then for the people who choose to show up to riots. Especially those who show up with guns, no matter whose side they are on.

[alphafemale]

16. In right wing logic they are the "good guys" always

No matter what.

[Skittles]

21. he is a white supremacist fasicst piece of shit

he is their BASE

[dchill]

22. Oxymoron.

[usaf-vet]

24. If he gets off. Shall we start a pool for when will his next shooting take place. He will be.....

.... embolden if he gets off. And even more dangerous in the future.
I bet he is in prison before he turns 30.

[ShazzieB]

38. Prison by age 30 would be fine with me.

I just hate the thought of someone else having to die to make it happen.

[FoxNewsSucks]

41. You'd think,

but George Zimmerman is still stalking the earth a free man. He even put his murder weapon up for auction.

If Kyle Slaughterhouse gets off, for whatever reason, expect a lot of copycats. Those "liberal hunting licenses" will no longer be a fake thing.

[IronLionZion]

31. Arberry and Martin didn't kill anyone. They were killed

simply because assholes didn't like them in their neighborhood.

RW logic requires digging up evidence that Rittenhouse's victims had committed some crimes before. So apparently they deserved to die as if we don't need police or due process anymore.

[tulipsandroses]

42. You miss the point

Many Right wingers do not afford self defense to Ahmaud or Trayvon. But that is exactly what they were doing when attacked. If they applied the same logic, then the thought process would have been, their killers are guilty because Ahmaud and Trayvon fought back in self defense.
Instead they give cockamamie excuses about why they were killed and defend their killers. Yet they clearly see self defense for Rittenhouse.


Its selective who they afford self defense to.
If you feel Rittenhouse was attacked, thus he had every reason to fight back with deadly force. Then the same logic should apply to Ahmaud and Trayvon.

But as others have said, no such thing as right wing logic.

[AdamGG]

33. If black panthers or the dreaded Antifa had shown up in Charlottesville with AR-15's

and gunned down the white supremacists who were triggered by their presence

I'm sure the right wing would have been logically consistent and supported them...



NOT. Nothing is more inconsistent than the American right wing.

[Johonny]

45. I don't understand how he isn't just considered another rioter

there has been little evidence that differentiates the accused from the people he shot. They were apparently, but not proven, to be on opposite sides of the issue, but they were all out after curfew.

He wasn't from there, so he wasn't protecting his property. He was just another rioter lured there that night for whatever reason. But clearly to be seen and experience the riot was why he was there. All his movements prove that.