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Botany

(77,324 posts)
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:54 AM Nov 2021

Funny how it was 2 Republicans who were stripped of...

Last edited Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:57 AM - Edit history (1)

.... their committee seats for threatening violence but our "liberal media" continues to play up the dems are in disarray crap.

We should demand that any member of congress that helped out in the 1/6/21 attempt to overturn our democracy needs to be forced out of the House or Senate .

The time to play nice with these shits is over and we need to control the message.

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Funny how it was 2 Republicans who were stripped of... (Original Post) Botany Nov 2021 OP
Who will you be demanding this of? brooklynite Nov 2021 #1
The Republicans Botany Nov 2021 #5
That's right. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #25
14th Amendment, Section 2 jmowreader Nov 2021 #38
According to the media we have already lost the House next year. No need doc03 Nov 2021 #2
I'm sick of hearing that crap over & over & over spanone Nov 2021 #3
Same here BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #4
How do you find common ground with people that want to burn doc03 Nov 2021 #7
I know BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #8
I still agree with you but... Septua Nov 2021 #13
Again BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #15
Much as I'd like to see... Septua Nov 2021 #10
I can't BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #11
If they ever take control of the White House & Congress KS Toronado Nov 2021 #17
That's their goal. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #27
Hard to find common ground with people whose motto is Hotler Nov 2021 #24
Are we being conditioned to be The Wizard Nov 2021 #6
T.P.T.B., the GOP, and most of the corporate media are .. Botany Nov 2021 #12
It seems like that. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #28
I can agree BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #30
Make it three and include double impeachment. twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #9
Make them pass Naturalization Test for US Citizenship Seinan Sensei Nov 2021 #14
I have a close friend who came to the US as a youngster. Has been a naturalized citizen for years. usaf-vet Nov 2021 #18
Maybe Boebert DENVERPOPS Nov 2021 #34
Do you all notice Traildogbob Nov 2021 #16
Exiled to mother Russia The Wizard Nov 2021 #19
Putin will not allow them Traildogbob Nov 2021 #23
"we need to control the message" CaptainTruth Nov 2021 #20
Great OP - Expulsion should be an issue bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #21
The proceedings need to start in Congress to remove every single one of them lees1975 Nov 2021 #22
Son mal sinvergenzas! They're evil, shameless people! RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2021 #26
"The time to play nice with these shits"... dchill Nov 2021 #29
Funnier that some say there's no RW media bias. nt live love laugh Nov 2021 #31
I'm very tired of the media's cheap shots. They are using the same game plan Facebook does: Martin68 Nov 2021 #32
It's New Age Civil War. Full stop SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2021 #33
Yeah, the US m$$$m can Cha Nov 2021 #35
Hmm. Gotta try harder. Yes, we are 100% in the right. But Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2021 #36
Media is destroying the world. Pepsidog Nov 2021 #37

Botany

(77,324 posts)
5. The Republicans
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:15 AM
Nov 2021

Get em on record of supporting crimes against the Nation we love. And any voter who will support these treasonous supporting bastards we would never get their vote anyway.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,704 posts)
25. That's right.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:04 AM
Nov 2021

The Democrats need to publicly make the attempt.

I'm sick of wishy-washy mewlings about how we can't even try because republicon scum won't go along with it therefore it can't be done.

Dems need to be seen making the attempt, and as you say, put the criminals on record.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
38. 14th Amendment, Section 2
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:04 AM
Nov 2021

It clearly says that no one who participated in insurrection can be in Congress, and it takes a two-thirds vote to let them back in. This was written to readmit members from the old Confederacy, but it’ll still work.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
2. According to the media we have already lost the House next year. No need
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:03 AM
Nov 2021

have an election.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
4. Same here
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:07 AM
Nov 2021

But no matter who wins/loses, we simply cannot go on like this with all the bitter hatred and violence in politics. I may be taking an idealist approach here, but I believe the emphasis somehow has to be on finding some middle ground and doing a political infrastructure so to speak, and mending fences and building bridges.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
7. How do you find common ground with people that want to burn
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:17 AM
Nov 2021

the country down to please a mad man? There were a few Republicans that voted for the infrastructure bill, they
won't be there next year because of it. It's alright to threaten your opponent with death but you get punished for
voting for an infrastructure bill that has been wanted by both parties for decades.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
8. I know
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:21 AM
Nov 2021

All I'm saying is that my approach isn't very realistic. It's simply wishful thinking. I've been wishful thinking since I was a kid about Raquel Welch and so far it's not panning out either.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
13. I still agree with you but...
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:57 AM
Nov 2021

..wishful thinking won't get it. The existing administration must get the voting rights bill passed and nullify all the latest state anti-democracy laws and gerrymandering.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
10. Much as I'd like to see...
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:51 AM
Nov 2021

..peace and tranquility same as you, there is no middle ground to be had. The Republican Party is no longer a functioning political organization with a Democracy based platform. McCarthy wants to be Speaker, McConnell wants to be majority leader, the remainder just want to keep their jobs and they are all afraid of Trump and his base.

If they regain Congressional control in 2022, we're doomed.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
17. If they ever take control of the White House & Congress
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:18 AM
Nov 2021

We will be doomed. We'll see president for life instated and all media will be required to air
his propaganda or face a firing squad.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,704 posts)
27. That's their goal.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:07 AM
Nov 2021

All one has to do is look back at the last 50 or so years and the pattern is clear. They intend to take and keep control of the country.

They're at that point now. Next time, we won't get it back. And we can thank people like the Maserati-driving Joe Manchin for failing to do everything possible to protect voting rights.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
24. Hard to find common ground with people whose motto is
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:56 AM
Nov 2021

"The only good Democrat/Liberal is a dead Democrat/Liberal." So, do we bake them cookies......

Botany

(77,324 posts)
12. T.P.T.B., the GOP, and most of the corporate media are ..
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:54 AM
Nov 2021

...working 24/7 to keep the minority controlling the majority. Joe Biden is the best President I have ever seen and he is getting a lot done and Kamala is doing a good job too but you wouldn't know that from the media.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,704 posts)
28. It seems like that.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:10 AM
Nov 2021

You can see it in many of the posts right here. Constant comments such as "Oh my, we can't do that so let's just not talk about it" or "Why would you even bring that up, they won't let us" .

The passiveness and outright animosity toward those who DO want to take action makes me want to puke.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
30. I can agree
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:13 AM
Nov 2021

I don't like to walk on eggshells. You have to be proactive and offensive at times.

Seinan Sensei

(1,546 posts)
14. Make them pass Naturalization Test for US Citizenship
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:57 AM
Nov 2021

In addition to demanding that participation in Jan 6 disqualifies them, we should (before their election) give candidates the Naturalization Test for US Citizenship.
ALL candidates.
For House, for Senate, for Presidency.
TFG could not have passed.
Ditto L.Boebert.
Ditto M.T.Greene
Prolly not Gomert. Prolly not Gosar.
Problem solved.

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
18. I have a close friend who came to the US as a youngster. Has been a naturalized citizen for years.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:20 AM
Nov 2021
We have talked about the process and the test. His knowledge of the Constitution would put everyone on your list to shame.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
34. Maybe Boebert
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:14 PM
Nov 2021

studied that when she got her GED just before running for office....??????????

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
16. Do you all notice
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:04 AM
Nov 2021

The loudest, most absurd defenders of Gosar during the hearing in the house were all the ones most likely directly in the planning and coordination of the coup AND defending the coup. Even stepping into the well of the house with him when Pelosi read the penalties to Gosar. Green, (maskless and hopefully fined again) Gohmert, Gaetz, Jordon, Boebert and Gosar himself. Everyone of the pathetic traitors need to be in jail for attempted and still planning the next coup attempt. Maybe a firing squad with Green’s and Boebert’s personal arsenal.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
23. Putin will not allow them
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:53 AM
Nov 2021

They would start a Guns rights party with those huge mouths screening FreeDumb, we must have blood flowing in the streets.” He would NEVER accept women with guns willing to overthrow HIS power. Not enough windows to drop em all from without being seen.

CaptainTruth

(8,202 posts)
20. "we need to control the message"
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:38 AM
Nov 2021

Exactly. I've realized how many people don't really pay attention to what politicians are really doing, or the affects it has on them or the country, they just believe whatever they're told by the media, they believe the messages they hear & form opinions (& vote) based on that.

As for the root cause of the problem, I'm convinced it's because our American education system (K-12) is based on a "believe what you're told" model that discourages critical thinking. Critical thinking skills aren't really emphasized until college, & look at the college vs non-college breakdown of support for Trump & other right wing loony politicians. Too many people go from 12+ years of school-based "believe what you're told" indoctrination (by authority figures, teachers, giving you information) & move right on to "believe what you're told" by authority figure talking heads in the media, without ever learning the critical thinking skills necessary to analyze & evaluate the accuracy & truthfulness of what they're being told.

I'm afraid that until we change our approach to education, this problem will only get worse.

bucolic_frolic

(55,143 posts)
21. Great OP - Expulsion should be an issue
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:39 AM
Nov 2021

"We should demand that any member of congress that helped out in the 1/6/21 attempt to overturn our democracy needs to be forced out of the House or Senate ."

Yes we do have issues if we incubate them. Republicans would be blind-sided by such.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
22. The proceedings need to start in Congress to remove every single one of them
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:50 AM
Nov 2021

NOW!

The DNC needs to allocate money to push into the district of each one of them, radio ads, local Democratic party officials, they need to put the pressure on, burn up the email and phone lines, protest at the offices of these goons and whether there's a chance they could get the votes they need or not, the proceedings to remove them need to be on the fast track.

I think the pressure will push enough Republicans, who really want this mess to be over and done with, to see that there is a lot of public support for integrity, and they will vote to remove these nut jobs from Congress.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,471 posts)
26. Son mal sinvergenzas! They're evil, shameless people!
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:06 AM
Nov 2021

(Mal: evil, bad )

(sinvergüenzas: colloquial: shameless)

dchill

(42,660 posts)
29. "The time to play nice with these shits"...
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:11 AM
Nov 2021

was OVER on January 6. And they're ALL SHITS.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
32. I'm very tired of the media's cheap shots. They are using the same game plan Facebook does:
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 06:56 PM
Nov 2021

encourage division and hate to get more eyeballs.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
33. It's New Age Civil War. Full stop
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 07:08 PM
Nov 2021

Republicans no longer represent their constituents. They must just want to shore up trickle down. If innocent people are hurt or die, most of them truly have no f'***s to give.

Cha

(319,082 posts)
35. Yeah, the US m$$$m can
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:42 PM
Nov 2021

Rot in Hell..

I turned them OFF in Nov 2002. And, Never looked the Hell back

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
36. Hmm. Gotta try harder. Yes, we are 100% in the right. But
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:19 AM
Nov 2021

you can't blame the media! WE make the story!!!!!!!!!! Jeez hire the best PR in US?????

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