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Thu Nov 18, 2021, 01:52 PM

What's taking so long (Rittenhouse trial)?

Since it's been a few days, it's pretty obvious there's some disagreement. Because of this, is it likely a hung jury at this point?

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 01:56 PM

1. I'm guessing one or two old holdouts on either side

There would seem to be at least one juror who thinks he's guilty despite the judge doing everything he can to push the jury towards siding with the defense.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 01:58 PM

2. This is a double 1st degree murder trial with multiple other charges

and a trial that took two weeks. They’ve been out three days. It’s not “taking so long.” At least not yet.

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Response to rsdsharp (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:00 PM

4. The Defense Attorney Said This Was Longest He's Ever Had Jury Out For One Of His Cases nt

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:27 PM

17. Translation: Holy fuck they aren't buying my bullshit

I hope he is fretting.

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Response to rsdsharp (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:25 PM

12. Agreed

These are complicated charges with a lot at stake for the defendant. Jury is doing responsible deliberation.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:00 PM

3. Derek Chauvin trial was about 10 hours. George Zimmerman about 16 hours.


Since there are several charges, several victims, and lots of evidence, the Rittenhouse's jury might have some disagreements among the various charges.

Unless they have decided on self-defense, I think there will be a conviction on at least one serious charge. Didn't really feel like that at the start of the trial.

Then, again, maybe they settled on "self-defense" or murder after an hour, but felt like it best they take a few days.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:05 PM

5. Wonder if there is a conviction

Will the whacko judge scold the jury for getting it all wrong???

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Response to True Dough (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:06 PM

6. Get the joke, but I doubt it.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:08 PM

7. $16.00 a day, Baby!

















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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:20 PM

9. I always thought it was the free meals.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:11 PM

8. A hung jury coming back would be REALLY interesting.

I think the judge's head would explode.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:21 PM

10. Longer the better, it seems

less chance of acquittal.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:24 PM

11. Really?

This is serious business. It seems to me no one knows what’s is going on in the Jury Room. They’ll announce when they’re ready.

Find something else to obsess about.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:53 PM

19. What I "obsess about" I can't help

Last edited Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:38 AM - Edit history (1)

I just asked a question. Everyone else gave great answers. There's always that one person though.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:26 PM

13. They basically lost a day yesterday

Because of the mess over the video after they requested to view it.

I imagine there are hold outs in one way or another.

I'm not even as interested in the verdict as I am to see what happens if there's any conviction. There are so many open issues the judge has let go with a kind of "Let's see what the jury does," attitude. If they acquit, then it's over.

If there are any convictions, some shit's going to start.

The defense still has two motions to dismiss open in front of the judge. And the video the jury asked to see still hasn't been ruled on.

It's weird. I think the judge is hoping the jury acquits, so then he doesn't have to deal with any of the open issues.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:58 PM

14. Multiple charges and confusing instructions from the judge

They may have decided quickly on some of the charges, and are stuck on others.

This isn’t that long, There have been deliberations that have taken longer.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:25 PM

15. 36 pages of legal instructions and dozens of options for each charge.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:26 PM

16. This is not a long time for a jury in a case like this.

They just reviewed the video late yesterday.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:28 PM

18. It's not even been two days , has it?

I was on a jury that took a week to come back…in the end we were a hung jury.

But this crap isn’t easy.

The case I was on was armed robbery.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:56 PM

20. I'm betting on a hung jury

My guess is there are a couple holdouts on one side or another. They're not going to move. I hope if it is a hung jury they poll the jury.

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