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Polybius

(21,830 posts)
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:52 PM Nov 2021

What's taking so long (Rittenhouse trial)?

Since it's been a few days, it's pretty obvious there's some disagreement. Because of this, is it likely a hung jury at this point?

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LonePirate

(14,365 posts)
1. I'm guessing one or two old holdouts on either side
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:56 PM
Nov 2021

There would seem to be at least one juror who thinks he's guilty despite the judge doing everything he can to push the jury towards siding with the defense.

rsdsharp

(11,973 posts)
2. This is a double 1st degree murder trial with multiple other charges
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:58 PM
Nov 2021

and a trial that took two weeks. They’ve been out three days. It’s not “taking so long.” At least not yet.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
4. The Defense Attorney Said This Was Longest He's Ever Had Jury Out For One Of His Cases nt
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:00 PM
Nov 2021
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
12. Agreed
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:25 PM
Nov 2021

These are complicated charges with a lot at stake for the defendant. Jury is doing responsible deliberation.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Derek Chauvin trial was about 10 hours. George Zimmerman about 16 hours.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:00 PM
Nov 2021

Since there are several charges, several victims, and lots of evidence, the Rittenhouse's jury might have some disagreements among the various charges.

Unless they have decided on self-defense, I think there will be a conviction on at least one serious charge. Didn't really feel like that at the start of the trial.

Then, again, maybe they settled on "self-defense" or murder after an hour, but felt like it best they take a few days.

True Dough

(26,458 posts)
5. Wonder if there is a conviction
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:05 PM
Nov 2021

Will the whacko judge scold the jury for getting it all wrong???

PJMcK

(25,028 posts)
11. Really?
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:24 PM
Nov 2021

This is serious business. It seems to me no one knows what’s is going on in the Jury Room. They’ll announce when they’re ready.

Find something else to obsess about.

Polybius

(21,830 posts)
19. What I "obsess about" I can't help
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:53 AM
Nov 2021

Last edited Fri Nov 19, 2021, 01:38 AM - Edit history (1)

I just asked a question. Everyone else gave great answers. There's always that one person though.

Sympthsical

(10,947 posts)
13. They basically lost a day yesterday
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:26 PM
Nov 2021

Because of the mess over the video after they requested to view it.

I imagine there are hold outs in one way or another.

I'm not even as interested in the verdict as I am to see what happens if there's any conviction. There are so many open issues the judge has let go with a kind of "Let's see what the jury does," attitude. If they acquit, then it's over.

If there are any convictions, some shit's going to start.

The defense still has two motions to dismiss open in front of the judge. And the video the jury asked to see still hasn't been ruled on.

It's weird. I think the judge is hoping the jury acquits, so then he doesn't have to deal with any of the open issues.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,966 posts)
14. Multiple charges and confusing instructions from the judge
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:58 PM
Nov 2021

They may have decided quickly on some of the charges, and are stuck on others.

This isn’t that long, There have been deliberations that have taken longer.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
16. This is not a long time for a jury in a case like this.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:26 PM
Nov 2021

They just reviewed the video late yesterday.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
18. It's not even been two days , has it?
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:28 PM
Nov 2021

I was on a jury that took a week to come back…in the end we were a hung jury.

But this crap isn’t easy.

The case I was on was armed robbery.

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
20. I'm betting on a hung jury
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 12:56 AM
Nov 2021

My guess is there are a couple holdouts on one side or another. They're not going to move. I hope if it is a hung jury they poll the jury.

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