Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:17 PM
FelineOverlord (3,079 posts)
ACLU thread about the Kenosha Police Department
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33 replies, 9237 views
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FelineOverlord | Nov 2021 | OP |
Cobalt Violet | Nov 2021 | #1 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2021 | #4 | |
DENVERPOPS | Nov 2021 | #24 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2021 | #25 | |
Evolve Dammit | Nov 2021 | #18 | |
Baitball Blogger | Nov 2021 | #2 | |
BigmanPigman | Nov 2021 | #26 | |
spicysista | Nov 2021 | #3 | |
TheRealNorth | Nov 2021 | #5 | |
Stuart G | Nov 2021 | #8 | |
TheRealNorth | Nov 2021 | #11 | |
xmas74 | Nov 2021 | #16 | |
TheRealNorth | Nov 2021 | #21 | |
xmas74 | Nov 2021 | #22 | |
2naSalit | Nov 2021 | #32 | |
ShazzieB | Nov 2021 | #15 | |
Augiedog | Nov 2021 | #6 | |
Stuart G | Nov 2021 | #12 | |
Stuart G | Nov 2021 | #7 | |
BlueCheeseAgain | Nov 2021 | #9 | |
radius777 | Nov 2021 | #28 | |
uponit7771 | Nov 2021 | #30 | |
2Gingersnaps | Nov 2021 | #10 | |
DownriverDem | Nov 2021 | #13 | |
AllaN01Bear | Nov 2021 | #14 | |
Fiendish Thingy | Nov 2021 | #17 | |
Evolve Dammit | Nov 2021 | #19 | |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | Nov 2021 | #29 | |
Evolve Dammit | Nov 2021 | #31 | |
marieo1 | Nov 2021 | #20 | |
BarbD | Nov 2021 | #23 | |
Skittles | Nov 2021 | #27 | |
LiberalArkie | Nov 2021 | #33 |
Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:21 PM
Cobalt Violet (9,855 posts)
1. It's a race war/civil war.
I hope people will stop saying it will never happen when it already is underway.
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Response to Cobalt Violet (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:26 PM
Hortensis (55,646 posts)
4. No one ever said that about white supremacists. It's almost
a complete definition of their behavior.
Not ours. |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 09:19 PM
DENVERPOPS (7,580 posts)
24. In early footage
of the BLM demonstrations, the video distinctly showed the BLM crowd demonstrating, the right wing protestors acting aggressively.
Then the police would intervene and clearly, all of the police turned toward the BlM demonstrators................... I saw this happen several times with shock............. It was then I understood just how much White Supremacists had infiltrated the police ranks...............and I wondered just how much they had infiltrated the entire U.S. Military & the command of both...... WASF |
Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #24)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 09:35 PM
Hortensis (55,646 posts)
25. Scary where it's true. If white nationalists were to take over
the federal government, local governments that maintained fascistic police forces (very strong overlap with white supremacism), especially in states with similar far-right control of state governments, would likely change virtually overnight and the relationship of government to citizens dramatically.
And of course there are very serious concerns with the military; we saw indications of that in the extraordinary actions the chairman of the joint chiefs took to maintain control around January 6. |
Response to Cobalt Violet (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:49 PM
Evolve Dammit (14,180 posts)
18. Putin is ecstatic.
Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:21 PM
Baitball Blogger (45,222 posts)
2. Sounds like the city is going to get sued.
Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 10:32 PM
BigmanPigman (48,798 posts)
26. I hope so.
My grandfather was born in Kenosha and that was all I knew about the city until recently. I am SO glad I live in CA. I want no connection to that vile city.
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:23 PM
spicysista (1,651 posts)
3. Wow!
This is troubling but not very surprising. The Kenosha police department seemed friendly with counter-protesting militia groups. I hope there is something the ACLU can do. Unfortunately, I am not particularly hopeful.
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:32 PM
TheRealNorth (8,082 posts)
5. 15 years ago, I was talking to a Kenosha Co. K-9 unit
The officer was talking about the new police dog and how he couldn't allow people to pet it because the last dog wasn't "vicious enough". Now, I always thought the days of using dogs to chase people down was past us (given how they were used in the 60's), and that dogs were mostly used for finding drugs nowadays, but not in KKKenosha.
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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:52 PM
Stuart G (36,589 posts)
8. New Term.....KKKenosha....never heard that one before...repeat: KKKenosha..K and R
Response to Stuart G (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:02 PM
TheRealNorth (8,082 posts)
11. As a kid growing up in SE WI in the 80's...
There were rumors the clan was active in Kenosha Co.
A lot of layed-off factory workers whose jobs were shipped to Mexico looking for someone to blame (except the white people that were actually responsible). |
Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:53 PM
xmas74 (29,154 posts)
16. I grew up there.
It wasn't so much Kenosha itself as it was surrounding. Guess which communities? Antioch and Winthrop Harbor.
47% of Kenosha residents aren't originally from WI. Guess where they moved from? Yep, Lake County and further out. |
Response to xmas74 (Reply #16)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:17 PM
TheRealNorth (8,082 posts)
21. That's a good point
There were probably a lot of Illinois Nazis coming up and buying house in Pleasant Prairie and the towns west of I-94 (Bristol, Salem, Twin Lakes, etc).
We know the Illinois Nazis come up to Bloomington, MN when they want to fire bomb mosques. |
Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:20 PM
xmas74 (29,154 posts)
22. When it went from blue collar to bedroom
There was quite a bit of White Flight out of the Chicago area. 47% is plenty to take control. Even the Metra runs through for the Chicago commuters. And Pleasant Prairie grew from nothing to bustling.
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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #21)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:41 AM
2naSalit (70,192 posts)
32. Several generations...
Of one parent's family live(d) in the area, I lived in McHenry Co for several years and one of my siblings used to live in Antioch. I have always seen the whole lake shore from the north side of Chicago to Green Bay as white supremacist leaning. And even back in the mid 70s I recall nazis having marches in north shore communities where large numbers of Jewish people live. I recall the migration of scary people moving into Wisconsin when I lived in Dane Co..
People have been overlooking the growth of these groups of armed vigilantes and insurrectionists for too long. Now look what happened. |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:51 PM
ShazzieB (10,424 posts)
15. KKKyle Rottenhouse was acquitted today in KKKenosha.
Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:46 PM
Augiedog (2,453 posts)
6. This verdict will be responsible in part for more racist killings
Response to Augiedog (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:07 PM
Stuart G (36,589 posts)
12. Yes, You just hit it totally correct..your words: ..."...more racist killings"..very sad..
Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:50 PM
Stuart G (36,589 posts)
7. k and r for exposure..
Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:52 PM
BlueCheeseAgain (883 posts)
9. I agree.
The sequence of events that ended in the deaths of the two victims and the injury of the third was all enabled by police sympathy for white supremacists. The defendant should not have been allowed to roam freely with his weapon and then allowed to go home after shooting three people with it.
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Response to BlueCheeseAgain (Reply #9)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 03:47 AM
radius777 (3,406 posts)
28. +1. The police are a right wing gestapo
who are actively on the side of right wing/racist/Trumper groups. There were many police who enabled the insurrection. Basically, you can't have justice in a country when those tasked to enforce the law are on one side or the other.
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:53 PM
2Gingersnaps (1,000 posts)
10. They need to investigate the Kenosha Police and see how many of them are members
of domestic terrorist militias. At the bare minimum, they abdicated their responsibility. The idea that you could walk up to police with your "human hunting rifle" and say you shot someone, and get sent home with thanks and a bottle of water is.....interesting.🤬
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:28 PM
DownriverDem (5,823 posts)
13. Very concerned
about him getting off and possible trouble on the streets.
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:49 PM
AllaN01Bear (11,395 posts)
14. all minorities , gays . women should have some kind of self defense classes for their own protectio
after this nonsensical verdict . i think this should be imparative . when the black panthers had guns to protect themselves from the police , almost everybody said blacks shouldnt have guns . but its o k for idiots like this .
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:04 PM
Fiendish Thingy (12,193 posts)
17. I hope Kenosha goes bankrupt from civil suits.
It would be Justice for them to have to tell their police force there’s no money left for their pensions…
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:51 PM
Evolve Dammit (14,180 posts)
19. When the judge has a 45 ringtone on his phone, maybe there was prejudice? Ya think?
Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #19)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 07:06 AM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (97,082 posts)
29. Why did the judge have his phone on in the court room?
I've done jury duty three times. One of the main rules is you shut down your cell phone so there's no distraction. That's why they have voicemail mail.
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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #29)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 08:30 AM
Evolve Dammit (14,180 posts)
31. cause he's the judge? I dunno. Probably proud of it.
Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:57 PM
marieo1 (1,395 posts)
20. A Farce....
This is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. Our court systems, our judges and our law enforcement are all criminal.............this would have been a great chance to show the world how well our justice system works and they all blew it. Now...........on to the next mass killing. Oh, Yes, it's ok to carry an assault rifle with the intent to hunt and make victims. I was so in hope the justice system would prosecute him and even his mother. I'm sure she encouraged him.
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 09:06 PM
BarbD (1,143 posts)
23. Such blatant injustice proves once again that racism is systemic in our society.
How we rid ourselves of this poison is a serious problem.
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 03:35 AM
Skittles (148,567 posts)
27. some there are DU apologists for this racism
that is extremely disturbing
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Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 01:00 PM
LiberalArkie (14,929 posts)