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ACLU thread about the Kenosha Police Department (Original Post) FelineOverlord Nov 2021 OP
It's a race war/civil war. Cobalt Violet Nov 2021 #1
No one ever said that about white supremacists. It's almost Hortensis Nov 2021 #4
In early footage DENVERPOPS Nov 2021 #24
Scary where it's true. If white nationalists were to take over Hortensis Nov 2021 #25
Putin is ecstatic. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #18
Sounds like the city is going to get sued. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #2
I hope so. BigmanPigman Nov 2021 #26
Wow! spicysista Nov 2021 #3
15 years ago, I was talking to a Kenosha Co. K-9 unit TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #5
New Term.....KKKenosha....never heard that one before...repeat: KKKenosha..K and R Stuart G Nov 2021 #8
As a kid growing up in SE WI in the 80's... TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #11
I grew up there. xmas74 Nov 2021 #16
That's a good point TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #21
When it went from blue collar to bedroom xmas74 Nov 2021 #22
Several generations... 2naSalit Nov 2021 #32
KKKyle Rottenhouse was acquitted today in KKKenosha. ShazzieB Nov 2021 #15
This verdict will be responsible in part for more racist killings Augiedog Nov 2021 #6
Yes, You just hit it totally correct..your words: ..."...more racist killings"..very sad.. Stuart G Nov 2021 #12
k and r for exposure.. Stuart G Nov 2021 #7
I agree. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2021 #9
+1. The police are a right wing gestapo radius777 Nov 2021 #28
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2021 #30
They need to investigate the Kenosha Police and see how many of them are members 2Gingersnaps Nov 2021 #10
Very concerned DownriverDem Nov 2021 #13
all minorities , gays . women should have some kind of self defense classes for their own protectio AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #14
I hope Kenosha goes bankrupt from civil suits. Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #17
When the judge has a 45 ringtone on his phone, maybe there was prejudice? Ya think? Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #19
Why did the judge have his phone on in the court room? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #29
cause he's the judge? I dunno. Probably proud of it. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #31
A Farce.... marieo1 Nov 2021 #20
Such blatant injustice proves once again that racism is systemic in our society. BarbD Nov 2021 #23
some there are DU apologists for this racism Skittles Nov 2021 #27
What if they gave a protest / riot and no protesters showed up? LiberalArkie Nov 2021 #33

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. No one ever said that about white supremacists. It's almost
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:26 PM
Nov 2021

a complete definition of their behavior.

Not ours.

DENVERPOPS

(8,599 posts)
24. In early footage
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 08:19 PM
Nov 2021

of the BLM demonstrations, the video distinctly showed the BLM crowd demonstrating, the right wing protestors acting aggressively.
Then the police would intervene and clearly, all of the police turned toward the BlM demonstrators...................

I saw this happen several times with shock.............

It was then I understood just how much White Supremacists had infiltrated the police ranks...............and I wondered just how much they had infiltrated the entire U.S. Military & the command of both......

WASF

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Scary where it's true. If white nationalists were to take over
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 08:35 PM
Nov 2021

the federal government, local governments that maintained fascistic police forces (very strong overlap with white supremacism), especially in states with similar far-right control of state governments, would likely change virtually overnight and the relationship of government to citizens dramatically.

And of course there are very serious concerns with the military; we saw indications of that in the extraordinary actions the chairman of the joint chiefs took to maintain control around January 6.

BigmanPigman

(51,295 posts)
26. I hope so.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 09:32 PM
Nov 2021

My grandfather was born in Kenosha and that was all I knew about the city until recently. I am SO glad I live in CA. I want no connection to that vile city.

spicysista

(1,663 posts)
3. Wow!
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:23 PM
Nov 2021

This is troubling but not very surprising. The Kenosha police department seemed friendly with counter-protesting militia groups. I hope there is something the ACLU can do. Unfortunately, I am not particularly hopeful.

TheRealNorth

(9,384 posts)
5. 15 years ago, I was talking to a Kenosha Co. K-9 unit
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:32 PM
Nov 2021

The officer was talking about the new police dog and how he couldn't allow people to pet it because the last dog wasn't "vicious enough". Now, I always thought the days of using dogs to chase people down was past us (given how they were used in the 60's), and that dogs were mostly used for finding drugs nowadays, but not in KKKenosha.

TheRealNorth

(9,384 posts)
11. As a kid growing up in SE WI in the 80's...
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:02 PM
Nov 2021

There were rumors the clan was active in Kenosha Co.

A lot of layed-off factory workers whose jobs were shipped to Mexico looking for someone to blame (except the white people that were actually responsible).

xmas74

(29,601 posts)
16. I grew up there.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:53 PM
Nov 2021

It wasn't so much Kenosha itself as it was surrounding. Guess which communities? Antioch and Winthrop Harbor.

47% of Kenosha residents aren't originally from WI. Guess where they moved from? Yep, Lake County and further out.

TheRealNorth

(9,384 posts)
21. That's a good point
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:17 PM
Nov 2021

There were probably a lot of Illinois Nazis coming up and buying house in Pleasant Prairie and the towns west of I-94 (Bristol, Salem, Twin Lakes, etc).

We know the Illinois Nazis come up to Bloomington, MN when they want to fire bomb mosques.

xmas74

(29,601 posts)
22. When it went from blue collar to bedroom
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:20 PM
Nov 2021

There was quite a bit of White Flight out of the Chicago area. 47% is plenty to take control. Even the Metra runs through for the Chicago commuters. And Pleasant Prairie grew from nothing to bustling.

2naSalit

(85,084 posts)
32. Several generations...
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:41 AM
Nov 2021

Of one parent's family live(d) in the area, I lived in McHenry Co for several years and one of my siblings used to live in Antioch. I have always seen the whole lake shore from the north side of Chicago to Green Bay as white supremacist leaning. And even back in the mid 70s I recall nazis having marches in north shore communities where large numbers of Jewish people live. I recall the migration of scary people moving into Wisconsin when I lived in Dane Co..

People have been overlooking the growth of these groups of armed vigilantes and insurrectionists for too long. Now look what happened.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
9. I agree.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:52 PM
Nov 2021

The sequence of events that ended in the deaths of the two victims and the injury of the third was all enabled by police sympathy for white supremacists. The defendant should not have been allowed to roam freely with his weapon and then allowed to go home after shooting three people with it.

radius777

(3,624 posts)
28. +1. The police are a right wing gestapo
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 02:47 AM
Nov 2021

who are actively on the side of right wing/racist/Trumper groups. There were many police who enabled the insurrection. Basically, you can't have justice in a country when those tasked to enforce the law are on one side or the other.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
10. They need to investigate the Kenosha Police and see how many of them are members
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 02:53 PM
Nov 2021

of domestic terrorist militias. At the bare minimum, they abdicated their responsibility. The idea that you could walk up to police with your "human hunting rifle" and say you shot someone, and get sent home with thanks and a bottle of water is.....interesting.🤬

AllaN01Bear

(16,577 posts)
14. all minorities , gays . women should have some kind of self defense classes for their own protectio
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:49 PM
Nov 2021

after this nonsensical verdict . i think this should be imparative . when the black panthers had guns to protect themselves from the police , almost everybody said blacks shouldnt have guns . but its o k for idiots like this .

Fiendish Thingy

(15,081 posts)
17. I hope Kenosha goes bankrupt from civil suits.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:04 PM
Nov 2021

It would be Justice for them to have to tell their police force there’s no money left for their pensions…

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(106,291 posts)
29. Why did the judge have his phone on in the court room?
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 06:06 AM
Nov 2021

I've done jury duty three times. One of the main rules is you shut down your cell phone so there's no distraction. That's why they have voicemail mail.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
20. A Farce....
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:57 PM
Nov 2021

This is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. Our court systems, our judges and our law enforcement are all criminal.............this would have been a great chance to show the world how well our justice system works and they all blew it. Now...........on to the next mass killing. Oh, Yes, it's ok to carry an assault rifle with the intent to hunt and make victims. I was so in hope the justice system would prosecute him and even his mother. I'm sure she encouraged him.

BarbD

(1,189 posts)
23. Such blatant injustice proves once again that racism is systemic in our society.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 08:06 PM
Nov 2021

How we rid ourselves of this poison is a serious problem.

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