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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo how long befor Judge Bruce Schroeder is signing a deal with Fox?
He would have to resign but there is money to be made.
Rittenhouse was on Carlson tonight.
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)For DA and once for WI state Senate). I would doubt most Democrats would seek positions on Fox News.
iemanja
(53,026 posts)He can't be a Democrat. He must have lied on his filing papers because a Rep has a harder time winning in his area.
Note, I'm calling the judge a liar, not the poster.
onenote
(42,661 posts)He's in his late 70s. The idea that he's going to sign on with Fox News is ludicrous.
iemanja
(53,026 posts)Democrat to you? He was on Fox News tonight, according to another poster.
Sympthsical
(9,066 posts)Which is a fairly liberal thing, imo.
People are confusing old school with right-winger. He's old school and conservative in that way people his age often are.
But it doesn't mean he's a right-wing Trumpist. People started making that all up once they realized the trial was not going to go the way they wanted.
iemanja
(53,026 posts)They were supposed to call them rioters and looters. Does he do that in all his trials, or only for White Supremacists?
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)Twice?
iemanja
(53,026 posts)That doesn't mean he was one or, more pertinently, is one now. Maybe he was ideologically aligned with Dixiecrats, since it was 40 years ago. What aversion do you think people that ascribe to such beliefs today have to Fox News?
You invoked that as a so-called reason why he would never "seek a position" on Fox News, when the man appeared on Tucker Carlson's show tonight. You assumed, without any evidentiary basis, that he is somehow liberal or progressive, when nothing in his behavior points to that. The question in the OP is about Fox News after all.
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)Have been on Fox News. Are they now seeking a paid position on the channel? Any link to any evidence this Judge is seeking a position on Fox News? I would be HAPPY (unlike you) to admit I was wrong and apologize for my assertions. I eagerly await your links ..
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)News. I will HAPPILY admit my error if he was on Fox News!
brush
(53,759 posts)kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)That was my only assertion. If you have evidence to the contrary I am all ears!
Sympthsical
(9,066 posts)This joins the other billion things in this case that fall under the category of, "Information readily known if people would have simply attempted to seek it out." It gets repeated and repeated, then answered and answered, and then repeated again no matter how many times it is corrected.
He makes it a regular practice for people not to be referred as "victims" in self-defense cases, because he believes the term is prejudicial against defendants. He has done it many, many times. It was not Rittenhouse specific.
Do you see why I think people should be pissed at the media here? They made a huge deal out of something that was common practice with him. They actively misinformed you. You should be furious at them instead of the judge. Getting people all riled up at the judge was the object of the exercise.
At this juncture, I'd say it worked a peach.
iemanja
(53,026 posts)It's not like there is any question whether those men died.
Sympthsical
(9,066 posts)I believe the one I heard most often during the trial was decedent.
I read a few profiles about the judge, and people who've had cases before him all said he is very protective of defendant's rights in court. Which explains why he blew a gasket over the 5th Amendment stuff and attempts to sneak in inadmissible evidence.
But it was also said he sentences firmly. One saying I read was, "You want him as a defendant during trial, but you never want him to sentence you."
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Zeitghost
(3,856 posts)When a self defense claim is in play.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Schroeder has been the subject of controversy during his judicial career. In 1987, he received attention for his order requiring HIV/AIDS testing for convicted prostitutes.[16] He developed a reputation for being tough on defendants in court and in sentencing. As a result, hundreds of defendants assigned to his court have requested to be transferred to another judge.[17]
Sympthsical
(9,066 posts)You actually just reminded me that I meant to look up the sex worker thing.
He has a reputation for being very harsh on sentencing. Very very. Which I noted.
But I've read that he has a thing about defendent's rights. Maybe I'm characterizing it that way. I read these articles last week. But it was agreed he takes the idea of a fair trial very seriously.
I didn't see anything during this trial that would lead me to believe otherwise.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)But he has a reputation apparently of being so harsh on defendants not just in sentencing but during the trial that hundreds have requested another judge. Yet KR nor his lawyers did request not another judge.
Sympthsical
(9,066 posts)When the prosecution violated the 5th and 6th Amendments in addition to trying to sneak in evidence ruled inadmissible, those were three huge honking reasons the judge could've used to fling the whole case out the window.
He didn't.
When the prosecution wanted to submit blurry drone footage that their entire case then rested upon after their witnesses exploded in their face, the judge allowed it despite lengthy and strenuous objections by the defense. Had the drone footage enhancement been disallowed, the prosecution would've had no case whatsoever.
I have reasons - strong ones, I think - to believe the judge was not biased during this trial.
I have yet to see very convincing ones in the other direction.
But actually he was very obviously biased in favor of this defendant. It would be interesting to see which defendants have requested another judge and what has happened in the past trials that caused these requests. In addition to the obvious bias he is so obviously out of control and unprofessional that it is apparent to many that his demeanor alone puts everything he does into question.
Sympthsical
(9,066 posts)I've given my opinion and supplied the facts on which it is based. Clear facts pertaining to this case.
"He was very obviously biased."
Ok. What's your evidence?
I've provided mine.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)You provide your interpretation. And you left out the fact that he is apparently actually usually very harsh on defendants and you said the exact opposite. He is harsh on some defendants, so much so that they know this in advance and 100s have asked for a different judge. But not KR or his lawyers who he bent over backwards to help.
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)I will await your retraction/apology.
iemanja
(53,026 posts)perhaps I should have just said he was a Klansman.
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)Your assertion your should apologize for your incorrect assertion and move on.
iemanja
(53,026 posts)It's hardly unprecedented for political candidates to run under a party they don't align with politically. It happens all the time in areas where, for example, Republicans can't get elected. How do you know that wasn't the case with this judge?
If you think it so preposterous that he would sign with Fox News, why did he go on Tucker Carlson's show tonight? Is that something a good Democrat would do, to celebrate his helping a man get away with two counts of murder?
Frankly, I find your determination to defend that judge's character, when he clearly has none, to be offensive.
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)That he ran as a Democrat twice. The facts say he did. You can continue to live in your fantasy world but I am moving on.
iemanja
(53,026 posts)I said the judge likely lied on his paperwork. I didn't say that you were telling a lie. Meanwhile, you ignore the fact he went on Fox news tonight.
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kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)On his paperwork, did he nonetheless run as a Democrat? If so your assertion was factually incorrect.
Dr. Strange
(25,917 posts)He was appointed by a Democrat and he's always run as a Democrat. Why are people creating conspiracy theories for this?
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)Fox News tonight. I dont watch that channel so I dont know.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Rittenhouse should have been convicted of something significant. The lawmakers who allowed that pissant to swagger down the street with a rifle around his neck, should too.
LeftInTX
(25,202 posts)36 years is a long time!
Deuxcents
(16,156 posts)He definitely needs to be reviewed for a few job performances
stevebreeze
(1,877 posts)There are many here who have rune as an "R" that are very Democratic leaning.
radius777
(3,635 posts)who would be perfect on Fox News, ie there to complain about 'wokeness' and all of those 'colored people' wanting justice and stuff.
If Rittenhouse was black or brown we all know how the case would've gone. If Rittenhouse was a white anti-racist protester (such as one of the victims) we also know how that would've gone.
The system is built on the 'algorithm' of white supremacy and spits out predictable results.
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jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Only with a paralyzed sense of decency, justice and humanity instead of paralyzed legs.