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Botany

(70,504 posts)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:02 AM Nov 2021

Please don't rise to their bait. Expect to see and hear lots of "We own the libs, Gun control ...

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... is hitting your target," and "Nothing is as sweet as a liberal's tears" crap. Putin was very
successful in helping to fracture America along racial and political lines by installing Trump
into the White House and now the right wing will try to compound our hurt by trying to rub
that injustice in Kenosha, WI in our faces. Remember they are celebrating cold blooded murders
by a very sick person and that kind of toxicity hurts the person spreading it more than it should
hurt you or I.

Do not play the GOP/right wing's game of social disruption, lies, and intentionally spreading a deadly
virus so the minority can control the majority.



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Please don't rise to their bait. Expect to see and hear lots of "We own the libs, Gun control ... (Original Post) Botany Nov 2021 OP
My tears have nothing to do with being owned. gab13by13 Nov 2021 #1
Understood Botany Nov 2021 #3
Great advice..and "what a beauty"..thanks for sharing..may i also suggest asiliveandbreathe Nov 2021 #2
Perfect, perfect, perfect message!!!! Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #4
+1 -K&R onetexan Nov 2021 #9
What they seem not to realize is... radical noodle Nov 2021 #5
Indeed American Interregnum Nov 2021 #12
"Some of the people they try to destroy.... SergeStorms Nov 2021 #25
Compliance with killers radical noodle Nov 2021 #30
So essentially they are being mikeysnot Nov 2021 #6
I agree JI7 Nov 2021 #7
Yup, they are out in droves w more of the same "be hopeless now!" crap. (Nt) FreepFryer Nov 2021 #8
What are you trying to say? Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #10
They've already.... SergeStorms Nov 2021 #26
They want to rub our noses in their shit vlyons Nov 2021 #11
I think we focus so much on one trial. jimfields33 Nov 2021 #13
Because the fear and hate mongering media riled and agitated as many people as possible vlyons Nov 2021 #15
I tuned in for ten minutes and could see the judges bias. That was enough. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #18
I don't know how anyone could have been surprised by the verdict Skittles Nov 2021 #32
It would appear we are re-entering the wild west of the 1800's Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #21
Got a link on that? Kingofalldems Nov 2021 #24
No, we want to put people in jail.... SergeStorms Nov 2021 #29
"Us vs. Them" Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #23
Kick and recommend. Love the doggie! bronxiteforever Nov 2021 #14
I refuse to llashram Nov 2021 #16
I hope you are correct in regards to........ KS Toronado Nov 2021 #17
Agree. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #19
The only thing anyone truly owns is their own karma sanatanadharma Nov 2021 #20
This is thought provoking. PatrickforB Nov 2021 #27
I love the picture. That is one beautiful, beautiful dog! PatrickforB Nov 2021 #22
Much easier said than done meow2u3 Nov 2021 #28
Beautiful dog MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #31
Meh. They're fucking stupid ismnotwasm Nov 2021 #33

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
2. Great advice..and "what a beauty"..thanks for sharing..may i also suggest
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:12 AM
Nov 2021

Be kind to fellow DUers who are just trying to express how they feel about events of days like yesterday..

Yes, we do have ninja in camp..most veteran duers are aware enough to know who, is who..we have a group of DUers to deal with them..

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
5. What they seem not to realize is...
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:35 AM
Nov 2021

liberals have guns too. That self-defense thing works both ways. I am not advocating doing what they do to provoke and then kill, but a few of them will learn too late that some of the people they try to destroy will shoot back and have better aim.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
25. "Some of the people they try to destroy....
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:35 AM
Nov 2021

will shoot back...." A few. Too few. The rest will be singing 'Kumbaya' and watching kitty videos.

It's time for the majority of those on the left to wake up. ⏰ Time is running out, and if we don't change our tactics these fascist thugs will steamroll over everyone in their way. Then there won't be any more kitty videos for anyone.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
30. Compliance with killers
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:57 AM
Nov 2021

ends in death. It's time to remember the lessons learned in the past. We know what Nazis and white supremacists are and we should never let them carry out their murderous plans. Have no doubt that's exactly what this is leading up to.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
6. So essentially they are being
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 09:36 AM
Nov 2021

Rewarded with a figment of their imaginations…

Never understood that one.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
10. What are you trying to say?
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:01 AM
Nov 2021

What is this social disruption you posted about? Kenosha is a red alert.

We must unite and vote like our lives depend on it like never before. Or we will have minority rule.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
26. They've already....
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:40 AM
Nov 2021

gerrymandered and passed anti-voting laws to assure that our votes don't matter. At all.

"Getting out the vote" isn't going to be enough anymore. They've made certain of that.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
11. They want to rub our noses in their shit
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:07 AM
Nov 2021

They are professional hate and fear mongers. They get paid big bucks to go TV and like Chicken Little screetch "the sky is falling, the sky is falling." They want us to be fearful, hopeless, and angry at their boogey men, people of color, empowered and vocal women, and well-educated liberals. If they could institute Christianity as the state religion, they would. How is this any different that how Christianity has operated for centuries?

We live in degenerate times.

jimfields33

(15,797 posts)
13. I think we focus so much on one trial.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:34 AM
Nov 2021

We have trials for murder in every city in America everyday. I do not understand why this one is the main one to focus on.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
15. Because the fear and hate mongering media riled and agitated as many people as possible
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:48 AM
Nov 2021

Got millions of people watching the trial on TV and listening to talking heads talk about it. Meanwhile, in between, they ran commercials to sell us shit we don't want and don't need.

But ya know, we gotta buy their shit, because the sky is falling.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
32. I don't know how anyone could have been surprised by the verdict
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:59 AM
Nov 2021

it was a given from the start

gun humpers have won

Response to vlyons (Reply #15)

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
29. No, we want to put people in jail....
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:50 AM
Nov 2021

who murder other unarmed people. And if they happen to be minors with semi- automatic weapons that are illegal for them to posess, who cross state lines with no intention other than killing people, yeah....we want them in jail too.

Maybe you have a problem with that?

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
23. "Us vs. Them"
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:30 AM
Nov 2021

You see it in movies (Think Wars Vs. Trek), you see it in games (Think of Dead By Daylight, Survivors Vs. Killers), you see it in every bit of culture imaginable; "Us" vs. "Them". Always. Facts be damned, truth be damned, "BE OUTRAGED AND PAY ATTENTION TO US!" says the media.

No more to it than that. Whatever gets your attention and your affection.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
16. I refuse to
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:00 AM
Nov 2021

bow to white supremacy BS and I will never let someone control me because of the colour of my skin. They bleed too...

KS Toronado

(17,235 posts)
17. I hope you are correct in regards to........
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:00 AM
Nov 2021

"they are celebrating cold blooded murders by a very sick person and that kind of toxicity hurts the person
spreading it more"

That it hurts the political party spreading it......with the midterms coming up.

sanatanadharma

(3,706 posts)
20. The only thing anyone truly owns is their own karma
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:15 AM
Nov 2021

The results of an individual's action, the fruits of karma, are good (pleasant circumstances) or bad (unwanted, uncomfortable circumstances).
We all live in circumstances, many unavoidable, happy-sad, hopeful-fearful. Wondrous worlds of our own weaving wherein we are filled with wants, so many that we are unfulfilled and covet.

What one does is who one becomes. We all seem to want a world in which morality, ethics are real and relatively consistent.
Our collective reactions to Kenosha and killing reflect this.
We want a world wherein one knows that being good is right, not futile; and knows those who manifest mean, nasty, vicious, self-righteous beastly-behavior deserve derision.

Those among USa who present as dumb, dull, deplorable and dangerous are not self-responsible adults.
The results of their actions will ultimately create continued unpleasant circumstances.
They will continue acting destructively, in denial, like a cult wherein "Urkel' is God and the mantra is "Did I do that?
In contrast to Sanskrit scriptures teaching "neti-neti", their scriptural teaching appears as "not I, not I".

neti = not this; in the search for ultimate truth, all that is 'not-this' is ignored, delved into, transcended

PatrickforB

(14,574 posts)
27. This is thought provoking.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:40 AM
Nov 2021

I too believe in karma, and in working that through over multiple times around the proverbial wheel. While I hate the white supremacy that is ubiquitous in our system, and recognize that the United States was built on the three pillars of slavery, conquest and genocide, sometimes I cannot help but take those thoughts further and wonder if we, all of us, are part of a greater 'group karma' that the republic must work out.

Alas, all we say or think in these times may be only our own tiny parts of working out this group karma in this republic, and perhaps the world at large. Some things are mysteries, and we may never know. We can only live, and love, and do our parts as best we can.

PatrickforB

(14,574 posts)
22. I love the picture. That is one beautiful, beautiful dog!
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:28 AM
Nov 2021

That said, as Merry told Frodo when the four hobbits got back to the Shire, "'But if there are many of these ruffians,’ said Merry, ‘it will certainly mean fighting. You won’t rescue Lotho, or the Shire, just by being shocked and sad, my dear Frodo.'”

These fanatics are actively trying to foment a civil war. They are. And sadly, soon, our military, soldier by soldier, marine by marine, airman by airman, and sailor by sailor, may have to make a decision about whether they should stand by the oaths of service they swore to this republic.

Sigh.

The Confederacy LOST.

Hitler and his Nazis LOST.

This current bunch of white supremacists will also LOSE.

But in losing, they will try to hurt and kill all they can.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
28. Much easier said than done
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:43 AM
Nov 2021

My blood is boiling! I'm sick of liberals suffering repeated injustice at the hands of right-wing fascist scum acting as if they're above the law. When will we feel like there's equal justice under law and not just lip service?

MustLoveBeagles

(11,609 posts)
31. Beautiful dog
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 01:21 PM
Nov 2021


I didn't get as upset as other by the verdict because I knew it would turn out this way. It was still disappointing though.

ismnotwasm

(41,980 posts)
33. Meh. They're fucking stupid
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 01:19 AM
Nov 2021

I read the Herman Cain awards on Reddit if I want a little schadenfreude.

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