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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:42 PM Nov 2021

Kyle Rittenhouse Just Killed our Right to Peacefully Protest


Kyle Rittenhouse Just Killed our Right to Peacefully Protest
ONLY IN AMERICA
With his acquittal, we’ve lost our First Amendment right to peacefully assemble to a half-cocked, cocaine-cowboy version of the Second Amendment.
Cliff Schecter
Published Nov. 20, 2021 8:11PM ET


Only in America.

There are certainly other countries where a young man known to hang out with a fascist gang but not a member of any “well-regulated militia” could drive 20 miles across state lines in the direction of unrest while toting a gun illegally to end up shooting and killing other humans and walk away a-ok.

Yet, much like those with whom we compare these days in world health-care system rankings or our use of the death penalty, they’re not countries the world’s oldest sorta-still-going democracy should be proud to join on those lists. (“Hey, what’s the problem? We’re handling these things just like Lithuania and Colombia!”).

The point is that what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse doesn’t happen in any other high-income liberal democracy—and one that has gotten quite drunk on referring to itself as the leader of the free world and a beacon of opportunity might really wanna, at this point, check itself before it wrecks itself.

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The very idea of self defense here is full of more bullshit than the Dutton Yellowstone Ranch.

But over the past 20 years, even before the GOP became a wholly owned subsidiary of a racist real-estate debtor, the NRA was paving the way for white nationalism—encouraging vigilante violence, launching scurrilous attacks on law enforcement and propagandizing with blatantly racist material. They’ve put their every waking hour into creating an America where Kyle Rittenhouse could claim self defense even when being somewhere he shouldn’t be, with a weapon he should never possess.

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Kyle Rittenhouse Just Killed our Right to Peacefully Protest (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2021 OP
Yep, and the punks i.e. white supremacists will see to it. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2021 #1
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2021 #2
The judge and jury did, he 'just' killed as usual. elleng Nov 2021 #3
good point Celerity Nov 2021 #8
I would suggest calling 911 anytime appears or his ilk. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #4
Spot on except MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #5
The cops get a lot of static when they shoot someone. They can just sit back doc03 Nov 2021 #6
like Texas is farming out the banning of abortion to civilian RWers Celerity Nov 2021 #9
I am certain that was their intention all along. Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #7
Usurped by a false interpretation wnylib Nov 2021 #16
Here we go again BidenRocks Nov 2021 #10
Political Busterscruggs Nov 2021 #12
Willing to die for TFG? wnylib Nov 2021 #17
Both MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #20
Yep. They think the second amendment trumps the first amendment. FM123 Nov 2021 #11
Apparently it does now. CrackityJones75 Nov 2021 #15
I have actually heard them say this right to my face. Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #21
Some states Old Crank Nov 2021 #13
That needs to be challenged in court as an wnylib Nov 2021 #18
So what's going to happen because of it? canuckledragger Nov 2021 #14
Last year, at around the same time... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #19
What I Think Will Happen nwliberalkiwi Nov 2021 #22
White Supremacy will not triumph. jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #23

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
4. I would suggest calling 911 anytime appears or his ilk.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:49 PM
Nov 2021

When they show up armed there is a reason to feel threatened.

MustLoveBeagles

(16,408 posts)
5. Spot on except
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:52 PM
Nov 2021

Kyle didn't have the gun in his possession when he drove to Kenosha. The gun was in Wisconsin with a friend who'd done a straw purchase on Rittenhouse's behalf.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
6. The cops get a lot of static when they shoot someone. They can just sit back
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:54 PM
Nov 2021

and let a civilian do the shooting now and get no headaches.

Baitball Blogger

(52,345 posts)
7. I am certain that was their intention all along.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 10:58 PM
Nov 2021

Among their ranks they kept saying that they would send in their own to stop the protests. And they did. But, they couldn't do it without the help of a conservative judge.

We can do something about this, if the federal courts step in. Because it's true, our First Amendment rights are being usurped by the Second Amendment.

BidenRocks

(3,266 posts)
10. Here we go again
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:18 PM
Nov 2021

Just for a different reason. So many willing to die for tfg.

These over armed yahoos seem to forget that weight will slow your fat ass down.
Ambush and sniper attacks are what we did against the British.
Some folk should really read history.

BTW, now I have your stuff! Never think a Dem was not trained by our military.

Why should I even have these thoughts in America?

 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
12. Political
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:54 PM
Nov 2021

Affiliation needs to be declared and certified when purchasing firearms. Murders like this one would drop off immediately if only democrats were permitted to purchase and possess the guns.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
15. Apparently it does now.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:04 AM
Nov 2021

All they need is to have an agent provocateur on scene and they can "Protect their neighborhood".

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
21. I have actually heard them say this right to my face.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:59 AM
Nov 2021

They have cutesy little bumper sticker sayings, like, "The 1st Amendment Exists Because Of The 2nd Amendment."

THAT'S how fucking stupid they are.

Old Crank

(7,078 posts)
13. Some states
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:02 AM
Nov 2021

Have passed laws allowing you to run over protesters. So they wanted this verdict.

wnylib

(26,014 posts)
18. That needs to be challenged in court as an
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:11 AM
Nov 2021

infringement on the right to protest and the right to live. No law should ever allow one person to injure or take another person's life over political differences. It's so insane that it's surreal.

 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
14. So what's going to happen because of it?
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:03 AM
Nov 2021

Desperately looking for alternatives here folks.

Movies are snubbed because they're movies folks. they're dismissed because they're commercial attempts at capitalizing of people's fears in general. Realistic or not depends on folk's experience...depending or not if the someone in question has actually lived the life in question.

Forget about the purge movies and think about what HAS actually happened.

regnaD kciN

(27,639 posts)
19. Last year, at around the same time...
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:12 AM
Nov 2021

…during the George Floyd protests, there was a march in a local strip-mall suburb. Mainly high-school students, along with a few suburban moms. Completely peaceful.

I didn’t attend the march (didn’t even hear about it beforehand), but happened to be driving down the road just after it ended. What I’ll always remember were the paramilitary types gathered at the police “staging area” in a parking lot at the end of the march. With their camo, body armor, and assault weapons, they looked a lot more “professional” than the cops with whom they were mingling and gladhanding. My first thought were that they were actually troops that had been called up (which would have been an insane overreaction for such a small, innocuous protest), but a look at some of the “don’t tread on me” flags and other insignia on their fatigues made it clear they were the usual reich-wingers playing at being soldiers. (Apparently, shortly after I passed by, a bunch of them rode in an open pickup through the crowd of marchers returning to their cars, taunting the “snowflakes” and shooting in the air.)

The whole scene was deeply unsettling. I could just imagine a scenario where one of them found the protesters so offensive/threatening that they would open fire on an unarmed crowd. Now that these same gun-humpers know that they could cry “self-defense” and not only walk, but become heroes thereafter, leaves me with the realization that, from now on, if I ever attend a protest, however peaceful, I have to be mentally-prepared to go with the realization that I may not return – and that, if I fall, my death will likely go unpunished and I will have given my life in vain. How many people will that cause to decide “it’s not worth it” and choose to remain at home silent but safe?

jcmaine72

(1,843 posts)
23. White Supremacy will not triumph.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 01:51 AM
Nov 2021

Our fundamental rights, including that of peaceful assembly, will not be curtailed or eliminated by force, no matter how many fat-faced, adolescent incels the reich wing programs to murder.

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