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Ocelot II

(115,894 posts)
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 03:43 PM Nov 2021

Of Course Kyle Rittenhouse Was Acquitted.

Adam Serwer's essays are always thoughtful and insightful, and he's raised some interesting and important points in this analysis in The Atlantic of the Rittenhouse trial and what it might mean (but shouldn't) politically:

The fact that Rittenhouse has become a folk hero among Republicans points to darker currents within the GOP, where justifications for political violence against the opposition are becoming more common. The party finds the apocalyptic fear of impending leftist tyranny useful not only for turning out its supporters, but also for rationalizing legislative attempts to disenfranchise, gerrymander, and otherwise nullify the votes of Democratic constituencies. Engineering the American political system so that Republicans’ political rivals are unable to contest their power is a less forceful solution than killing people, but the political goal is similar: to never have to share power with those they disagree with.

For this reason, the party defends those who engage in rhetoric threatening violence against their political enemies and silences those who denounce it. Whether it’s Donald Trump justifying his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, Republican members of Congress threatening their colleagues, or Fox News hosts praising Rittenhouse for “doing what the government should have done,” the desire to kill your political opponents is a sentiment no longer confined to the dark corners of the internet. The principle that canonizes Rittenhouse as a saint for defending his city from rioters, and the mob that stormed the Capitol as martyrs, is the principle that the slaughter of the right’s enemies is no crime.

“At this point, we’re living under corporate and medical fascism. This is tyranny,” said an attendee at an event held by the conservative group Turning Point USA in October. “When do we get to use the guns?” The audience responded with applause. “How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people?” Most of this is idle bluster from keyboard gangsters on social media. But the more it is encouraged by mainstream political leadership, the less likely it is to remain mere talk.

Rittenhouse’s trial was a matter of law, and the outcome should not have been dependent on the political questions raised by the events that led to his indictment. But his acquittal will be seen by some on the militant right as a validation of the sentiment that someday, perhaps soon, they will get to kill all “these people.” No one they would listen to will tell them otherwise.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/unsurprising-outcome-rittenhouse-trial/620742/

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Of Course Kyle Rittenhouse Was Acquitted. (Original Post) Ocelot II Nov 2021 OP
"No one they would listen to will tell them otherwise." Kid Berwyn Nov 2021 #1
Maybe what the US needs to do is wnylib Nov 2021 #11
Like this,.. magicarpet Nov 2021 #2
Hoping a federal trial (like Rodney King) Nululu Nov 2021 #3
What Federal crime could KR be charged with? MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2021 #4
I'm sure someone will be here to twist the facts for you ripcord Nov 2021 #5
No doubt. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2021 #7
Rodney King's perps convicted by federal govt. for violating his Civil rights. Nululu Nov 2021 #8
You left one very important fact out, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2021 #9
Rodney King's Killers? NT rwiliff Nov 2021 #10
They want us dead. Initech Nov 2021 #6

wnylib

(21,652 posts)
11. Maybe what the US needs to do is
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 07:22 PM
Nov 2021

form a coalition with other democracies to undercut Putin, abroad and in his own country. Bringing down Putin would benefit many nations.

magicarpet

(14,187 posts)
2. Like this,..
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 05:07 PM
Nov 2021

Ra,... ra,... ra,...

When do we finally get to use the guns ?

We got them so we could kill liberals....

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,449 posts)
4. What Federal crime could KR be charged with?
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 06:27 PM
Nov 2021

Several DU members who are lawyers have already stated why there will be no Federal charges.

ripcord

(5,552 posts)
5. I'm sure someone will be here to twist the facts for you
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 06:37 PM
Nov 2021

I'm amazed at the misinformation that exists here, everything from it was wrong to throw out the weapon possession charge to he crossed state lines with a weapon and even saying his mother driving him to the protest. People seem to have trouble accepting the truth when it doesn't fit their own narrative.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,449 posts)
7. No doubt.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 06:48 PM
Nov 2021

If I didn't know any better, I would say that there are those who purposely post false and misleading info on this issue, no matter how many times it's been pointed out that it's false or misleading info.

Nululu

(842 posts)
8. Rodney King's perps convicted by federal govt. for violating his Civil rights.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 06:56 PM
Nov 2021

Last edited Sun Nov 21, 2021, 07:37 PM - Edit history (1)

There are also federal weapons charges even though the judge tossed the state gun violations.

When states refused to convict the KKK, the federal government has stepped in.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,449 posts)
9. You left one very important fact out,
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 07:03 PM
Nov 2021

KR is not an agent of the government, therefore he can't be charged with violation of civil rights, those that beat RK were, hence the Federal civil rights charges, and there is no violation of Fed. firearms laws by KR, the one being federally charged is his friend who bought the rifle for him, as in a straw purchase, which can earn one a 10 year Federal prison and a hefty fine.

Oh, and by the way, those cops that beat RK? They didn't kill him, they fucked him up pretty bad, but they didn't kill him, what killed him was a pool that he drowned in.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
6. They want us dead.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 06:38 PM
Nov 2021

And you cannot reason with people like that.

This verdict was a lesson: don't fuck with the cult.

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