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RandySF

(84,311 posts)
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 11:05 PM Nov 2021

The supply-chain crunch appears to have already peaked in the U.S.


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Good news: The supply-chain crunch appears to have already peaked in the U.S.

Evidence keeps piling up to suggest that the U.S. is slowly but surely making progress in easing freight congestion and supply shortages
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The supply-chain crunch appears to have already peaked in the U.S. (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2021 OP
Been at Huntington Beach the last two Saturdays. Diablo del sol Nov 2021 #1
bringing manufacturing back onshore solves a lot of issues Amishman Nov 2021 #19
Sounds good. elleng Nov 2021 #2
There are huge backups at trucking terminals. denbot Nov 2021 #3
Me to larwdem Nov 2021 #4
The freight trains are running through town again, up here. calimary Nov 2021 #5
Black Friday shopping splurge hasnt even hit yet! This guy is whistling.... Shanti Shanti Shanti Nov 2021 #6
For those goods to be available on Friday, they would have needed to have been unloaded long ago Amishman Nov 2021 #20
We spend money we don't have to buy things we don't need, Ron Green Nov 2021 #7
I've found everything I need at the grocery stores for Thanksgiving Wanderlust988 Nov 2021 #8
I've noticed odd spot shortages spinbaby Nov 2021 #9
Seconded on the cat food, but it's canned food Deminpenn Nov 2021 #15
Even before the advent of TFGs complete bungling of the pandemic Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #29
Kroger/Walmart Slammer Nov 2021 #27
Supply chain of what? Poorly/slave labor-made crap that nobody needs traitorsgalore Nov 2021 #10
Unfortunately *everything* is made overseas durablend Nov 2021 #12
When the backed up goods arrive, there should be great sales during January Klaralven Nov 2021 #11
so true. Wait until January to do your Xmas shopping SouthernDem4ever Nov 2021 #31
could this be another anti-democracy ploy? Marthe48 Nov 2021 #13
Whoa! Can't have good news interfering with the Fox News Biden Disaster narrative. hay rick Nov 2021 #14
Oh it wasn't just FOX BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #22
Our media "allies" have been willing boosters of the supply chain crisis narrative. hay rick Nov 2021 #23
So much this. TheAnnoyedAgnostic Nov 2021 #25
Thanks Biden/Buttigieg lame54 Nov 2021 #16
Yep Deminpenn Nov 2021 #17
Today I went grocery shopping for the week and felt as if I'd won the lottery. Vinca Nov 2021 #18
Good BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #21
The damage is already done Dopers_Greed Nov 2021 #24
Supply Chain Metaphorical Nov 2021 #26
Friedman Slammer Nov 2021 #28
The shipping companies don't care they are making $30,000 per container SouthernDem4ever Nov 2021 #30
 

Diablo del sol

(424 posts)
1. Been at Huntington Beach the last two Saturdays.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 12:21 AM
Nov 2021

Last week the backup went to the HB Pier. This week at least a mile improvement. Couple of months ago, all the way to Newport Beach, so another five miles.

That being said, the port situation is improving. Supply Chain issue will take years to correct. Until MFG is moved back to North America, we will deal with interruptions.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
19. bringing manufacturing back onshore solves a lot of issues
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 03:48 PM
Nov 2021

Not the least of which is helping fight climate change.

New modern (and heavily automated) manufacturing facilities are a lot greener, plus you are avoiding all the carbon release from shipping the finished goods halfway around the world.

Perhaps a future idea would be a carbon tax on imports, based on how the goods were made and how far they travelled?

denbot

(9,950 posts)
3. There are huge backups at trucking terminals.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 12:44 AM
Nov 2021

Mostly major players like Roadtex, DHL etc., Me thinks it's intentional...

calimary

(90,021 posts)
5. The freight trains are running through town again, up here.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 02:05 AM
Nov 2021

It was awfully quiet for awhile, though.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
20. For those goods to be available on Friday, they would have needed to have been unloaded long ago
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 03:49 PM
Nov 2021

Black Friday consumer inventory would have been unloaded weeks or months ago

Ron Green

(9,870 posts)
7. We spend money we don't have to buy things we don't need,
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 03:04 AM
Nov 2021

to make impressions that won’t last on people we don’t care about.

Wanderlust988

(785 posts)
8. I've found everything I need at the grocery stores for Thanksgiving
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 04:55 AM
Nov 2021

And they have ample supply, at least here in central Kentucky. I don't know how it is in the rest of the country. I've been to Wal-Mart, Kroger, and Meijer and found ample supplies of everything I've needed. And Meijer had tons of turkeys. I wonder if the media is just over-hyping stuff to make Biden look bad.

spinbaby

(15,389 posts)
9. I've noticed odd spot shortages
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:40 AM
Nov 2021

There were no turkey breasts, so I bought a whole turkey. Then a local grocery suddenly had a freezer full. Cat food has been an ongoing problem, as has my son’s favorite brand of iced tea. One week there was no romaine lettuce anywhere. Walmart is the only store in town that has unsweetened coconut.

Overall, most things are stocked in most places, but one tends to notice when that one thing is out of stock.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
15. Seconded on the cat food, but it's canned food
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 02:56 PM
Nov 2021

like Fancy Feast. I wonder if that's related to the aluminum can shortage, too, since cat food is all made in the US and dry food has been on the shelves throughout.

For awhile cat treats were seemed to be stocked out a lot, but not so bad now.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
29. Even before the advent of TFGs complete bungling of the pandemic
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 07:12 AM
Nov 2021

There have been spot outages in the grocery business and others. A truck misses a delivery window, a computer crashes in an ordering or receiving system, a manufacturer runs out of packaging or an ingredient, a veteran of the business retires and take their institutional memory with them leaving an inexperienced replacement to figure it out, a power failure somewhere and on and on. I’ve seen all those lead to bare shelves at the stores I worked at both during the holidays and other times.

Best one was the produce warehouse crew all called in sick to go deer hunting one year in early November. The loads that did get out were very late that Saturday.

Slammer

(714 posts)
27. Kroger/Walmart
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 06:18 AM
Nov 2021

Here, in a major metro area, there was less supply of most things (like less than half the display space of frozen turkeys) and no supply of a few things like fresh cranberries. There were no turkeys at all which were larger than 18 pounds, which isn't a problem this time since we're not having a large family gathering this year. But in non-Covid years, getting a turkey less than 24 pounds would be a problem.

And everything cost 30-50% more than last year except for frozen diced potatoes.

I didn't wait until the last minute to do my Thanksgiving food shopping. But I'd guess that people who waited until this weekend or later will be scrambling to find what they need.

traitorsgalore

(1,427 posts)
10. Supply chain of what? Poorly/slave labor-made crap that nobody needs
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 09:46 AM
Nov 2021

This is the corrupt outsourcing markets collapsing on themselves from top to bottom.

durablend

(9,270 posts)
12. Unfortunately *everything* is made overseas
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 11:09 AM
Nov 2021

It's not just the crap nobody needs...just check the pet food aisle at your local store to see.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
13. could this be another anti-democracy ploy?
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 11:35 AM
Nov 2021

The enemies of our state let Covid-19 run rampant, allowed racism and and white supremacy to rise, and attack voting rights.
I was talking to my daughter last night, and we both agreed that so far, we see price hikes, but we are getting the things on our shopping lists.

I wondered if the bottlenecks and shortages, and inflation isn't being encouraged by the traitors? I have 6 million Deutsche marks from 1923. I learned in history that inflation in Germany between WWI and WWII was another cause of the rise of hitler. So that 6 million marks wouldn't have been enough to buy a loaf of bread. So I couldn't help wondering if this is another weapon to kill off our democracy.

hay rick

(9,605 posts)
14. Whoa! Can't have good news interfering with the Fox News Biden Disaster narrative.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 01:53 PM
Nov 2021

Back to the "border crisis" we go.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
22. Oh it wasn't just FOX
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:39 PM
Nov 2021

There have been people here making a big to-do about not being able to find every flavor of Oreos they wanted, and other equally irritating whines.

hay rick

(9,605 posts)
23. Our media "allies" have been willing boosters of the supply chain crisis narrative.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 09:15 PM
Nov 2021

The universal hand-wringing over the Build Back Better price tag is another example of media complicity. Curiously, all price tag concerns evaporate when the bloated military budget surfaces for a nanosecond of media examination.

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
18. Today I went grocery shopping for the week and felt as if I'd won the lottery.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 03:01 PM
Nov 2021

THREE BOXES OF CAT LITTER DEODORANT!

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
21. Good
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:37 PM
Nov 2021

I was growing tired of the super whiny posts which unintentionally amplify GOP talking points.

Metaphorical

(2,634 posts)
26. Supply Chain
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:45 AM
Nov 2021

I don't believe the deliberate supply chain sabotage narrative here, any more than I believe the exaggerated GOP supply chain woes. If we're peaking before Christmas (and a lot of anecdotal evidence suggests we are), then supply chain issues will likely be a distant memory by this summer, and with it, the whole inflation wringing of hands.

Milton Friedman was the architect of the particular belief that inflation is a monetary issue brought about by too much government spending, which has been a GOP talking point for decades. The reality is that inflation is almost invariably due to one of two reasons: population growth (when money has to be added into the economy to account for new spenders), or supply chain issues. Government spending has, as near as I can tell, has very little to do with it.

The one caveat to this is hyperinflation, which comes when confidence in a government collapses in the lead-up to civil war, which is basically what happened to Germany after WWI. The Weimar hyperinflation event started out as a supply chain collapse in the wake of the stringent capital constraints placed on post-World War I Germany by the Treaty of Versailles, then was exacerbated when there was a massive capital flight of the wealthy as the Republic tried to tax them to keep the government going.

I'm not sure a Weimar-type hyperinflation event would even be possible today, at least for the US.

Slammer

(714 posts)
28. Friedman
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 06:48 AM
Nov 2021

In Friedman's life history, government "overspending" was accompanied by the government printing excessive amounts of money which it used to cover the government outlays.

Friedman wasn't able to always mentally separate "government spending" from "government printing more money"...and his followers rarely attempt to.

If the increase of the rate in government intake of revenues are matching the rate of increase in government spending, there shouldn't be long-term inflation (absent a shortage of goods caused by supply chain issues or other such temporary problems).

Or if the government is borrowing the money to cover the excess spending, there shouldn't be long-term inflation.

But honestly, we're reaching such high levels of debt that I think we'd be better off in the long run to start printing money to cover our yearly deficits and a small part of the debt that's rolling over. If we do that for the next twenty years, we might be able to get out of this debt mess.

We're getting to a point that we're paying a ridiculous percentage of government revenues just to cover the interest on our debt PLUS the government is spending more than double each year than the government is taking in for revenue.

I don't think we can continue borrowing that much additional money each year (on top of what we're already borrowing) indefinitely. And we sure can't continue to pay more and more of our government revenues each year out in interest payments while we're skimping on all our other spending priorities.

And Lord help us if interest rates go up to anywhere near historic norms while our debt is this high....

/ramble

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
30. The shipping companies don't care they are making $30,000 per container
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 12:56 PM
Nov 2021

as opposed to $3000 last year. Crooks!

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