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Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:28 AM

Just as the right is now using PeeWee Rittenhouse as a prop, the Left

can use him and his case as more evidence for the need for common sense gun legislation.

Also, never stop referring to him as a murderer. Regardless of what the jury decided,
and regardless of any "self defense" law, he murdered two people, and tried to murder a third.

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Reply Just as the right is now using PeeWee Rittenhouse as a prop, the Left (Original post)
Progressive Jones Nov 23 OP
Monohull Nov 23 #1
Rhiannon12866 Nov 23 #2
Monohull Nov 23 #4
Rhiannon12866 Nov 23 #9
WarGamer Nov 23 #6
Rhiannon12866 Nov 23 #8
WarGamer Nov 23 #11
WarGamer Nov 23 #13
Rhiannon12866 Nov 23 #19
WarGamer Nov 23 #7
Monohull Nov 23 #15
WarGamer Nov 23 #17
Monohull Nov 23 #18
WarGamer Nov 23 #20
Monohull Nov 23 #21
Solomon Nov 23 #24
Haggard Celine Nov 23 #3
Progressive Jones Nov 23 #10
WarGamer Nov 23 #5
Progressive Jones Nov 23 #12
msongs Nov 23 #14
Progressive Jones Nov 23 #16
wnylib Nov 23 #23
C Moon Nov 23 #22
doc03 Nov 23 #25

Response to Progressive Jones (Original post)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:40 AM

1. I'm still wondering

 

why Rittenhouse has not been charged for his role in the illegal straw purchase.

That's a federal offense.

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Response to Monohull (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:48 AM

2. We have heard that it's likely he'll now be facing federal charges

Excellent question and welcome to DU!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:51 AM

4. Thanks.

 

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Response to Monohull (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:02 AM

9. This is where I got this information, from Rep. Nadler:

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:55 AM

6. No. Experts have said that's far fetched.

At most he'll be facing Civil Suits from the victims.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:01 AM

8. I'm getting this from Rep. Nadler:

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:03 AM

11. I saw that... requesting a review IS NOT the same as expecting charges

There are no Civil Rights charges that apply.

No Federal Crimes.

No second "bite of the apple" because people don't like the State verdict.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:06 AM

13. And I'm kinda' biased re: Politicus... because it's not a legitimate source... :)

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:20 AM

19. Thanks! I obviously like Rep. Nadler a lot, from long before his role on the impeachment committee

Back when Al Franken had his Air America radio show (which I used to watch nights on Sundance TV), Nadler was his Rep. and he used to be a frequent guest.

Thanks for the article. Like everyone else here, I find this acquittal completely unacceptable. The kid crossed state lines with an automatic weapon and shot two people to death!

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Response to Monohull (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:55 AM

7. No. Only the person who bought the gun and he's already been charged.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:12 AM

15. Takes 2 to tango.

 

I don't see why he can not be charged with conspiring to break federal straw purchase law.

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Response to Monohull (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:15 AM

17. Because there's no such thing as a "Straw Gun" law..

It's called lying on your form 4473 which is filled out by the buyer.

This is basic stuff... don't like the laws then change them.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:19 AM

18. He and his friend

 

conspired to lie on form 4473.
That's conspiracy to violate federal law.

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Response to Monohull (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:23 AM

20. That's never been charged before.

Without precedent how do you think that'd fly in Court?

Like the President said, get over it, the Jury has spoken.

I personally urge all to push their State Legislatures to change laws to cut down on this kind of thing happening again.

This wouldn't have happened in California.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:26 AM

21. Plenty

 

of people have been charged, convicted and put in prison for conspiracy.

The law is already there.

He conspired to violate federal law.

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Response to Monohull (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 07:03 AM

24. One of my pet peeves. They use conspiracy law against black people like crazy. But with white people

it's usually just get the one who did it.

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Response to Progressive Jones (Original post)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:49 AM

3. Stricter gun legislation wouldn't have mattered

in the Rittenhouse case. A friend of Kyle's bought the gun legally, then gave it to Kyle. No gun laws would have kept the friend from giving Kyle the weapon. He didn't care about the law when he gave the gun to him. Besides, the friend is being charged for for doing it, I've read recently. He could get up to 25 years, the article said. You can't prevent law breakers from ignoring laws; all you can do is punish them for doing it.

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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:03 AM

10. I'm aware. I was talking about the effort to enact the kind of legislation

that's been desired for decades.

At some point there has to be changes in the availability of firearms.

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Response to Progressive Jones (Original post)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:53 AM

5. PeeWee Rittenhouse... lmao, I'm SOOO stealing that.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:05 AM

12. Steal away! He needs a nickname. nt

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Response to Progressive Jones (Original post)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:09 AM

14. killer kyle or kyle the killer would be correct. he did admit doing it did he not? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:13 AM

16. I like it! nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:55 AM

23. I think the RWers would like that

nickname. They would think that it makes him a tough guy, a lib killer.

It has a good alliterative sound, but the word "murderer" is more specific and accurate.

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Response to Progressive Jones (Original post)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:50 AM

22. It doesn't take a lot to see that racist freak

kneeling in the street and shooting an assault rifle at unarmed people to know he is a cold blooded murderer. You know. I know it. The defense knows it. The judge knows it.

Racism is alive and killing. That’s all that is going on here: a modern version of “hanging them from the nearest tree.”

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Response to Progressive Jones (Original post)

Tue Nov 23, 2021, 08:12 AM

25. I think in the long run he will pay for it. The rest of his life he will be living in

fear that a family member of the victims or someone else will catch him somewhere with no witnesses.
I think he will be getting verbally assaulted in public, getting his ass kicked and maybe worse the rest
of his sorry life. He can't hide behind MAGAts, Proud Boys and Tucker forever.

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