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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, realistically, what is the best outcome we could get from 1-6 committee?
Just brainstorming here, not dissing anyone whatsoever.
Strikes me that the cover is that it was a rally. So anyone that paid for it or paid for others to attend could just say that they were being a nice guy.
And even if you helped the terrorist insurrectionists attend, you could just say you supported their cause. That's not a crime right?
And even if you were in governmental leadership, and used a throw away phone, that's not a crime either.
I so want to see these people locked up forever, just searching for the end game.
LonePirate
(13,407 posts)I honestly don't think it matters if TFG is also cited.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)getting the Pig is probably a bridge too far.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)that so and so will be punished in their after life
Poiuyt
(18,112 posts)responsible. Even though there will be no penalties for Trump or his fellow seditionists, it is important so future generations will know what happened. Trump's name will go down in infamy like Benedict Arnold. He will be known as the worst president in US historynot the 2nd worst or the 4th worst. He will be labeled the worst president of all time and that label will last for centuries to come. (If America survives).
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)dem4decades
(11,269 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)his inner circle. In addition to those arrested for entering Capitol, we might get a few Proud Boyz types who enticed members to attend and coordinated some kind of violent protest.
The Eastman and other memos will be dismissed as an exploration of legal ways to contest the election.
They wont find where trump took a Sharpie and drew a map of Capitol and weak, breachable entrance points.
Worse, well be mired in an unproductive investigation as mid-terms heat up. Then, we are screwed.
Maybe Georgia or some state will go after trump for trying to get election officials to throw the election. But that effort will be mired for years.
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Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)As we have become accustomed to.
Have bad memories of legal gurus saying after Impeachment II that there would be no prosecution of FG for 1-6. Because if the political route didn't work there's no way a legal route would, which requires more real evidence.
But you never know. I would love it if someone, somewhere had a taped conversation with FG, telling them to break the law.
Geez, where are our great patriots like the guy who taped Romney and his 47% remark?
Timewas
(2,190 posts)A lot of hot air and money spent, lots of hopeful headlines and a slow fade away to nothing.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Those innocents. Those Capitol Police. Who were left unknowing. Who were left hurt. JHC when people literally commit suicide over the ordeal - how sad and horrible that is.
Timewas
(2,190 posts)The entire mess is one of the saddest chapters in our history, and sadder yet that no one will be brought to anything that resembles justice. And that will empower them to do more next time.
WarGamer
(12,327 posts)1/6 consisted of TWO PARTS.
ONE.
A legal and permitted RALLY starring TFG and the usual cast of characters. Various groups also applied for and received DC permits for demonstrations around and near the Capitol Building. All LEGAL.
TWO.
The ASSAULT on the Capitol with the intent of stopping the counting of delegates. QUITE ILLEGAL.
Without a direct and convincing line of evidence CONNECTING #1 to #2, there's nothing there.
Come up with communications between RALLY organizers, top GOP or WH officials, even TFG and the assault teams at the Capitol and you've got BIG charges to file...
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)"leader" who surrounds himself with above loyal people who don't even mind going to jail for him . And who leaves no crumbs. Bet zero tapes, emails.
Like someone said above, it's all about setting history.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)OnDoutside
(19,945 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,317 posts)People may not end up in jail, but we should know who funded and what they wanted for their money. Knowledge is power.
Dont get me wrong, I want to see as many locked up as humanly possible. I want them to rot for a long time. A really long time, but really I want to know who bought and paid for the attack on the capitol. They are much more dangerous than the rubes who carried out the assault.
malaise
(268,676 posts)Lock them the fuck up!
Tree Lady
(11,425 posts)We shouldn't try this again. That said if they get congress and senate all bets off and they will try again.
Zeitghost
(3,844 posts)If we can push it through the 2022 elections, get some good press out of it and keep it fresh in people's minds, it's a win. No significant criminal charges will be brought on any big targets. They might be dumb, but I don't think they're stupid enough to leave their "How to turn a legal rally into an illegal riot" playbook lying around. Maybe I'm wrong, I'd be thrilled. But I'm not holding my breath.