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RandySF

(58,809 posts)
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:57 PM Nov 2021

Covid: New heavily mutated variant B.1.1.529 in South Africa raises concern

The latest is the most heavily mutated version discovered so far - and it has such a long list of mutations that it was described by one scientist as "horrific", while another told me it was the worst variant they'd seen.

It is early days and the confirmed cases are still mostly concentrated in one province in South Africa, but there are hints it may have spread further.

Immediately there are questions around how quickly the new variant spreads, its ability to bypass some of the protection given by vaccines and what should be done about it.

There is a lot of speculation, but very few clear answers.

The variant is called B.1.1.529 and is likely to be given a Greek code-name (like the Alpha and Delta variants) by the World Health Organization on Friday.

It is also incredibly heavily mutated. Prof Tulio de Oliveira, the director of the Centre for Epidemic Response and Innovation in South Africa, said there was an "unusual constellation of mutations" and that it was "very different" to other variants that have circulated.





https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59418127

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Covid: New heavily mutated variant B.1.1.529 in South Africa raises concern (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2021 OP
Is this the 6th time this has been posted? Tomconroy Nov 2021 #1
How many "GUILTY" threads yesterday? A new/potentially problematic COVID strain is worth the pixels WarGamer Nov 2021 #2
Gotta keep the fear porn flowing!!! beaglelover Nov 2021 #3
Thank you. This is a story about a variant of which there have Tomconroy Nov 2021 #4
I'm with you 100%. But some here love to beaglelover Nov 2021 #5
Lord knows what they will do when Covid is endemic in Tomconroy Nov 2021 #6
I doubt people LOVE embracing bad news. HUAJIAO Nov 2021 #7
"Embrace?" People want to know about a new variant and you are Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #9
+1,000. AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #15
Yeah, like delta. iemanja Nov 2021 #8
Problem is this variant has a lot of mutations compared to Delta womanofthehills Nov 2021 #10
You must not be a sp*rs fan, lolol Celerity Nov 2021 #11
We've had vaccines for almost a year now NickB79 Nov 2021 #16
Mine is that a new strain will outsmart the vaccine. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #17
Agree. First of all - DenaliDemocrat Nov 2021 #18
It's going to be posted a lot more, too. eShirl Nov 2021 #12
People would be better off viewing my post about the Rockettes. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #13
Fauci on CNN AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #14

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
2. How many "GUILTY" threads yesterday? A new/potentially problematic COVID strain is worth the pixels
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:04 PM
Nov 2021
 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
4. Thank you. This is a story about a variant of which there have
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:32 PM
Nov 2021

Been many that amounted to nothing. In the remote possibility
that it does amount to something we have the technology to rapidly create an excellent vaccine.
Go back to football!

beaglelover

(3,484 posts)
5. I'm with you 100%. But some here love to
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:34 PM
Nov 2021

Embrace any and all bad news related to COVID-19. I’m fully vaxed and boosted and living a pretty normal life again. Happy Thanksgiving!!

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
6. Lord knows what they will do when Covid is endemic in
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:37 PM
Nov 2021

the first quarter of 2022, just as Dr. Faucci predicted last summer.
And Happy Thanksgiving to you!

HUAJIAO

(2,385 posts)
7. I doubt people LOVE embracing bad news.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 09:54 PM
Nov 2021

This could be a serious situation and I prefer to stay well-informed.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
10. Problem is this variant has a lot of mutations compared to Delta
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 02:59 AM
Nov 2021

and we have no idea how antibodies from two different variants would work in conjunction with each other.

Celerity

(43,357 posts)
11. You must not be a sp*rs fan, lolol
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 03:16 AM
Nov 2021
Go back to football!


Mura stun Tottenham with late Europa Conference winner after Sessegnon red

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/25/tottenham-hotspur-mura-europa-conference-league-match-report

Antonio Conte says he is not a “magician” and now understands the size of the job on his hands at Tottenham after they suffered one of the most embarrassing nights in their history.

Conte watched on as his 10-man side were beaten 2-1 by Slovenian minnows NS Mura, the lowest-ranked team in the Europa Conference League who had lost all four of their previous games.

Spurs went down to Amadej Marosa’s stoppage-time goal after Harry Kane had cancelled out Tomi Horvat’s shock opener.



One of the ultimate stoppage time chokes

Literally last kick of the game after clown car defending by Sanchez

So sp*rsy!!!

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
16. We've had vaccines for almost a year now
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 10:07 AM
Nov 2021

And less than half the planet is vaccinated. In Europe and America, there are enough antivaxxers to keep the virus circulating. Over 1,000 Americans are still dying daily.

My fear is that, if another strain hits, even more people are gonna think vaccines are a failure, say "fuck it" and embrace the "natural immunity" mentality instead.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
17. Mine is that a new strain will outsmart the vaccine.
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 10:09 AM
Nov 2021

But your fear is a significant one for me too.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
18. Agree. First of all -
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 10:21 AM
Nov 2021

South Africa has an abysmal vaccination rate < 25%, it also had a relatively low infection rate fir Delta. It is prime territory for ANY variant. Early indications MAY point to a less lethal virus. It MAY evade some antibodies, but 100% escape is never going to happen.

It has NOT been labeled a variant of concern YET (and may never - time will tell).

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
14. Fauci on CNN
Fri Nov 26, 2021, 08:45 AM
Nov 2021

U.S. health officials will meet with South African authorities later today to get specifics on what is happening. That’s all that needs to be said right now.



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