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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCovid: New heavily mutated variant B.1.1.529 in South Africa raises concern
The latest is the most heavily mutated version discovered so far - and it has such a long list of mutations that it was described by one scientist as "horrific", while another told me it was the worst variant they'd seen.
It is early days and the confirmed cases are still mostly concentrated in one province in South Africa, but there are hints it may have spread further.
Immediately there are questions around how quickly the new variant spreads, its ability to bypass some of the protection given by vaccines and what should be done about it.
There is a lot of speculation, but very few clear answers.
The variant is called B.1.1.529 and is likely to be given a Greek code-name (like the Alpha and Delta variants) by the World Health Organization on Friday.
It is also incredibly heavily mutated. Prof Tulio de Oliveira, the director of the Centre for Epidemic Response and Innovation in South Africa, said there was an "unusual constellation of mutations" and that it was "very different" to other variants that have circulated.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59418127
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)WarGamer
(12,444 posts)beaglelover
(3,484 posts)Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Been many that amounted to nothing. In the remote possibility
that it does amount to something we have the technology to rapidly create an excellent vaccine.
Go back to football!
beaglelover
(3,484 posts)Embrace any and all bad news related to COVID-19. Im fully vaxed and boosted and living a pretty normal life again. Happy Thanksgiving!!
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)the first quarter of 2022, just as Dr. Faucci predicted last summer.
And Happy Thanksgiving to you!
HUAJIAO
(2,385 posts)This could be a serious situation and I prefer to stay well-informed.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)deriding them for it?
Jesus. SMDH.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)iemanja
(53,032 posts)womanofthehills
(8,703 posts)and we have no idea how antibodies from two different variants would work in conjunction with each other.
Celerity
(43,357 posts)Mura stun Tottenham with late Europa Conference winner after Sessegnon red
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/25/tottenham-hotspur-mura-europa-conference-league-match-report
Antonio Conte says he is not a magician and now understands the size of the job on his hands at Tottenham after they suffered one of the most embarrassing nights in their history.
Conte watched on as his 10-man side were beaten 2-1 by Slovenian minnows NS Mura, the lowest-ranked team in the Europa Conference League who had lost all four of their previous games.
Spurs went down to Amadej Marosas stoppage-time goal after Harry Kane had cancelled out Tomi Horvats shock opener.
One of the ultimate stoppage time chokes
Literally last kick of the game after clown car defending by Sanchez
So sp*rsy!!!
NickB79
(19,236 posts)And less than half the planet is vaccinated. In Europe and America, there are enough antivaxxers to keep the virus circulating. Over 1,000 Americans are still dying daily.
My fear is that, if another strain hits, even more people are gonna think vaccines are a failure, say "fuck it" and embrace the "natural immunity" mentality instead.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)But your fear is a significant one for me too.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,476 posts)South Africa has an abysmal vaccination rate < 25%, it also had a relatively low infection rate fir Delta. It is prime territory for ANY variant. Early indications MAY point to a less lethal virus. It MAY evade some antibodies, but 100% escape is never going to happen.
It has NOT been labeled a variant of concern YET (and may never - time will tell).
eShirl
(18,491 posts)Might as well accept it.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)U.S. health officials will meet with South African authorities later today to get specifics on what is happening. Thats all that needs to be said right now.