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Thu Nov 25, 2021, 05:57 PM

Covid: New heavily mutated variant B.1.1.529 in South Africa raises concern

The latest is the most heavily mutated version discovered so far - and it has such a long list of mutations that it was described by one scientist as "horrific", while another told me it was the worst variant they'd seen.

It is early days and the confirmed cases are still mostly concentrated in one province in South Africa, but there are hints it may have spread further.

Immediately there are questions around how quickly the new variant spreads, its ability to bypass some of the protection given by vaccines and what should be done about it.

There is a lot of speculation, but very few clear answers.

The variant is called B.1.1.529 and is likely to be given a Greek code-name (like the Alpha and Delta variants) by the World Health Organization on Friday.

It is also incredibly heavily mutated. Prof Tulio de Oliveira, the director of the Centre for Epidemic Response and Innovation in South Africa, said there was an "unusual constellation of mutations" and that it was "very different" to other variants that have circulated.





https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59418127

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RandySF Nov 25 OP
Tomconroy Nov 25 #1
WarGamer Nov 25 #2
beaglelover Nov 25 #3
Tomconroy Nov 25 #4
beaglelover Nov 25 #5
Tomconroy Nov 25 #6
HUAJIAO Nov 25 #7
Scrivener7 Nov 25 #9
AngryOldDem Nov 26 #15
iemanja Nov 25 #8
womanofthehills Nov 26 #10
Celerity Nov 26 #11
NickB79 Nov 26 #16
Scrivener7 Nov 26 #17
DenaliDemocrat Nov 26 #18
eShirl Nov 26 #12
Tomconroy Nov 26 #13
AngryOldDem Nov 26 #14

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:02 PM

1. Is this the 6th time this has been posted?

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:04 PM

2. How many "GUILTY" threads yesterday? A new/potentially problematic COVID strain is worth the pixels

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:04 PM

3. Gotta keep the fear porn flowing!!!

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:32 PM

4. Thank you. This is a story about a variant of which there have

Been many that amounted to nothing. In the remote possibility
that it does amount to something we have the technology to rapidly create an excellent vaccine.
Go back to football!

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:34 PM

5. I'm with you 100%. But some here love to

Embrace any and all bad news related to COVID-19. Iím fully vaxed and boosted and living a pretty normal life again. Happy Thanksgiving!!

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:37 PM

6. Lord knows what they will do when Covid is endemic in

the first quarter of 2022, just as Dr. Faucci predicted last summer.
And Happy Thanksgiving to you!

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:54 PM

7. I doubt people LOVE embracing bad news.

This could be a serious situation and I prefer to stay well-informed.

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 09:57 PM

9. "Embrace?" People want to know about a new variant and you are

deriding them for it?

Jesus. SMDH.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 07:46 AM

15. +1,000.

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:58 PM

8. Yeah, like delta.

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 01:59 AM

10. Problem is this variant has a lot of mutations compared to Delta

and we have no idea how antibodies from two different variants would work in conjunction with each other.

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 02:16 AM

11. You must not be a sp*rs fan, lolol

Go back to football!


Mura stun Tottenham with late Europa Conference winner after Sessegnon red

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/25/tottenham-hotspur-mura-europa-conference-league-match-report

Antonio Conte says he is not a ďmagicianĒ and now understands the size of the job on his hands at Tottenham after they suffered one of the most embarrassing nights in their history.

Conte watched on as his 10-man side were beaten 2-1 by Slovenian minnows NS Mura, the lowest-ranked team in the Europa Conference League who had lost all four of their previous games.

Spurs went down to Amadej Marosaís stoppage-time goal after Harry Kane had cancelled out Tomi Horvatís shock opener.



One of the ultimate stoppage time chokes

Literally last kick of the game after clown car defending by Sanchez

So sp*rsy!!!

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 09:07 AM

16. We've had vaccines for almost a year now

And less than half the planet is vaccinated. In Europe and America, there are enough antivaxxers to keep the virus circulating. Over 1,000 Americans are still dying daily.

My fear is that, if another strain hits, even more people are gonna think vaccines are a failure, say "fuck it" and embrace the "natural immunity" mentality instead.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 09:09 AM

17. Mine is that a new strain will outsmart the vaccine.

But your fear is a significant one for me too.

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 09:21 AM

18. Agree. First of all -

South Africa has an abysmal vaccination rate < 25%, it also had a relatively low infection rate fir Delta. It is prime territory for ANY variant. Early indications MAY point to a less lethal virus. It MAY evade some antibodies, but 100% escape is never going to happen.

It has NOT been labeled a variant of concern YET (and may never - time will tell).

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 06:50 AM

12. It's going to be posted a lot more, too.

Might as well accept it.

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Response to eShirl (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 06:55 AM

13. People would be better off viewing my post about the Rockettes.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 07:45 AM

14. Fauci on CNN

U.S. health officials will meet with South African authorities later today to get specifics on what is happening. Thatís all that needs to be said right now.



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