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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,232 posts)
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:25 PM Nov 2021

Were you ever one of these?



An Indian Guide?

You're probably telling your age if you were and might have a bit of a mix in your feelings about it now. They had pretty okay goals but all had a bit of a taint of 1950's cliched views of the realities of Native American history. I was only eight or nine and only have bits of memories of my experience as a member but with today's news stories and subjects the memory jiggled out of my head for the 1st time in many years.

Anyone else remember this group?
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Were you ever one of these? (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2021 OP
No, but I was a "Campfire Girl" and they did a fair bit of cultural appropriation back then. TygrBright Nov 2021 #1
I remember being in a big stockade at summer camp. We had to march applegrove Nov 2021 #2
The YMCA ran them where I was from bottomofthehill Nov 2021 #3
They aren't burning a cross, are they? Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #4
Yep. Although we didn't wear the big head-dresses. Hoyt Nov 2021 #5
I have o words Deuxcents Nov 2021 #6
Never a member, but I remember hearing of them....nt Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #7
I was in the Order of the Arrow and we appropriated a lot of Indigenous SYFROYH Nov 2021 #8
Same here. That was Boy Scouts. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #11
Yes but in a different way. GemDigger Nov 2021 #9
No but my high school mascot was the Chiefs meadowlander Nov 2021 #10

TygrBright

(20,776 posts)
1. No, but I was a "Campfire Girl" and they did a fair bit of cultural appropriation back then.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:28 PM
Nov 2021

On the other hand, they were one of the first youth organizations to wise up and stop that shit, and also to go co-ed.

So, mixed bag.

reminiscently,
Bright

applegrove

(118,874 posts)
2. I remember being in a big stockade at summer camp. We had to march
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:52 PM
Nov 2021

around a fire in the center in a certain way, toe then heel, to culturally appropriate. Don't know if it was based on reality or was just some trope. Before the widespread use of shoes, Europeans walked toe heel. So I don't know.

My sisters kids went to a camp named after an Indigenous nation on an island at her cottage. This summer the cottagers wanted to rename the camp and the nation were like no. They have had jobs and a relationship every summer with the summer camp for one hundred years. When it doubt, ask.

bottomofthehill

(8,358 posts)
3. The YMCA ran them where I was from
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:01 PM
Nov 2021

They were literally called the Y- Indian Guides. The meetings were held at the local ymca.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
9. Yes but in a different way.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:37 PM
Nov 2021

I worked for the Blind Association in the summer where they had classes to help the Native American people with learning to live with that blindness. I was a guide for the blind.

meadowlander

(4,411 posts)
10. No but my high school mascot was the Chiefs
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:40 PM
Nov 2021

so I still have a headdressed head on my letter jacket.

They didn't change it until the early 2000s.

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