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Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:50 PM

He Attacked Cops At The Capitol Riot. Then He Went To Air Force Basic Training.

Aiden Bilyard, who was known to online sleuths as #HarvardSweats, smashed out a window at the Capitol and attacked law enforcement.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aiden-bilyard-capitol-riot-air-force_n_619d3479e4b044a1cc0dc38c





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Reply He Attacked Cops At The Capitol Riot. Then He Went To Air Force Basic Training. (Original post)
Celerity Nov 25 OP
Shellback Squid Nov 25 #1
TigressDem Nov 26 #31
ProfessorGAC Nov 25 #2
Haggard Celine Nov 25 #3
Mickju Nov 25 #9
Rebl2 Nov 25 #13
BobTheSubgenius Nov 25 #15
Talitha Nov 26 #23
taxi Nov 26 #24
Angleae Nov 26 #27
taxi Nov 26 #28
jmowreader Nov 26 #34
mercuryblues Nov 26 #35
keithbvadu2 Nov 25 #4
Progressive Jones Nov 25 #5
BlackSkimmer Nov 26 #25
ms liberty Nov 26 #32
Swede Nov 25 #6
Justice matters. Nov 25 #7
Demovictory9 Nov 25 #11
bucolic_frolic Nov 25 #8
monkeyman1 Nov 25 #10
MyOwnPeace Nov 25 #12
George II Nov 25 #14
DallasNE Nov 25 #16
Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 25 #18
Captain Zero Nov 25 #20
DallasNE Nov 25 #21
Elwood P Dowd Nov 25 #22
BlackSkimmer Nov 26 #29
jmowreader Nov 26 #36
marble falls Nov 25 #17
Trueblue1968 Nov 25 #19
BlackSkimmer Nov 26 #26
TigressDem Nov 26 #30
LiberalFighter Nov 26 #33

Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:53 PM

1. he swore a oath after Jan 6th, he was lying as he swore the oath, send him to Leavenworth

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Response to Shellback Squid (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 01:51 PM

31. Good idea.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 06:54 PM

2. "...Since Separated From The Air Force..."

He was kicked out after this.
Silly euphemism.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:13 PM

3. Yeah, "separated" sounds like a mutual decision.

Maybe it was mutually agreed upon after they told him that he was going to the brig if he didn't get the fuck off their base.

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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:02 PM

9. I was wondering about that also.

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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:40 PM

13. Likely

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:50 PM

15. That jumped off the page at me, as well.

He was lucky he wasn't charged by the USAF, but I wish he had been.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 12:54 AM

23. Yeah... why do they sugar-coat the message?

Say it like it is, M$M !!!

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 10:33 AM

24. Separation is what they called the process - maybe they still do.

One would get Separated under Honorable or Other Than Honorable conditions; Separated with a BCD (bad conduct discharge), Separated for immediate reenlistment, or whatever else.

A different question is, under what conditions was he Separated from the USAF upon their learning of his involvement on and before Jan 6? Was it Honorable, Other Than Honorable, BCD, or something else?


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Response to taxi (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 01:02 PM

27. Likely entry level seperation.

A special discharge that can only be given out in a members first 6 months. It's basically a nullification. For all practical purposes, he was never in the military.

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Response to Angleae (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 01:12 PM

28. Yup, his recruiter isn't happy

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 08:46 PM

34. That's the official term for being kicked out of the military

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 08:53 PM

35. Yup.

That's what my daughter calls it. Actually, her exact quote is...

If you want to get kicked out, come see me. I can make that happen. If you don't want to be kicked out, straighten up as of now. I can still kick you out.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:13 PM

4. Good catch!

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:14 PM

5. Again, a certain region of the US raises it's ugly head. nt

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 12:40 PM

25. Not "it's", you mean "its".

Perhaps you should do some research on where the January 6 traitors came from.

NY, CA, OH, PA, and on and on.

I think only 5 states were not represented in the insurrection. NC was surpassed by northeast and Midwest states.

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 06:53 PM

32. Except a Cary is not a town full of locals, meaning people native to NC

Cary is a very upscale community that has been popular with the professionals working in Raleigh, Durham and Research Triangle Park, for like more than 30/40 years. A lot of transplants, from all over the place. My MIL says it was a nice small town when she lived there about 1970. My husband's family is from Durham, and we still have family in the area. One of my husband's uncles lived in Cary until his death last year from cancer.

And I would add that NC is a purple state. Our current Gov is a Dem.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:45 PM

6. Fucked around and found out.

Now your life is in ruins.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:48 PM

7. Lock him up.

And a free haircut.

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Response to Justice matters. (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:21 PM

11. He loves his lucious locks

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:57 PM

8. Hopelessly mixed up allegiances

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:11 PM

10. trying to hind in the military ! treason little twerp !

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:22 PM

12. Just what is one supposed to think.......

realizing that someone like that who did what he did is now part of our national military?
Should I be 'resting comfortably" knowing someone like that would 'be on guard?"

Really drives home the same concerns of our local and state police forces. Just who ARE they protecting?
I know that there would be a whole bunch of people pointing out that the "bad cops" are in the minority - but, what if you happen to be in a situation with one from 'the minority?".......... (you can take it from there........)

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:45 PM

14. Someone who enlists in the military doesn't just "separate", there's more to it than that....

Was he dishonorably discharged?

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Response to George II (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 08:58 PM

16. Or, Perhaps A Bad Conduct Discharge n/t

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 09:15 PM

18. Dishonorable or Bad Conduct discharges cannot be given


without a guilty verdict in a court-martial trial.

If he was still in basic, he would have served less than 180 days. He could be simply administratively separated from the USAF.

Of course, they could have threatened to bring charges against him if he did not agree to an administrative separation.

Whatever the circumstances, looks like Harvard is going to be doing some time behind bars.

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Response to Prof. Toru Tanaka (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 09:36 PM

20. There is one called: 'Unsuitable for Military Duty'

I hope he got one for his sedition. I knew a special needs guy who got one about 3 months in when they figured out he would go awol when he pleased, and that he really was functionally illiterate. It was some years ago. Took them a while but they figured it out. He was very verbal and used SAT vocab words at times when speaking. There really are people like that among us. Funnier still was some years later he talked himself into about 6 months of services from the VA, for which, of course, he was not eligible. Haha.
Took them a while to figure that out too.
And years afterward when I knew him he was still really sore about not being able to use HIS VA benefits because, dammit, he had been in the army!

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Response to Prof. Toru Tanaka (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:00 PM

21. Made Me Look It Up

I was pretty sure that an Article 15 did not carry a discharge option. But could there be an administrative discharge that was less than a judicial bad conduct discharge? The answer is yes.

A general discharge may or may not mean that the service member did something wrong. It is not punitive but does mean that some particular condition or circumstance warranted the memberís separation from the military.

This would mean that he has a less than honorable discharge, I believe.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:12 PM

22. Yep, you don't want a general discharge.

When I completed my 2 years of Army service during the Vietnam era, the corporation I worked for wanted a copy of my DD214 showing I had an honorable discharge. Boss told me a general was a definite no-go for his company.

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Response to Prof. Toru Tanaka (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 01:49 PM

29. Thank you.

It amazes me how many people speak of military discharges with NO idea how many there are and how they are given.

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Response to George II (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 08:53 PM

36. In the Army we would call it "entry level separation"

Unless a trainee does something like try to shoot his drill sergeant, the Army really likes using ELS to get rid of their problem children, because it's so quick to do - fill out one form and collect the soldier's uniforms, and they're gone. The Air Force almost certainly has the same thing.

Given that, you have GOT to be a special kind of stupid to try hiding after participating in an insurrection against the government by joining the Air Force.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 09:08 PM

17. He is in such deep shit.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 09:23 PM

19. throw him in the slammer ....15 years in jail !!!!!

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 12:42 PM

26. When I was in the USAF, they shaved the heads of the males.

Looks like he never even made it out of Basic, the loser.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 01:49 PM

30. So smart of them to push their masks down for proper identification. nt

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Nov 26, 2021, 06:59 PM

33. Amazing. Years ago if one got into trouble and appeared before a judge.

Some might get the option of the charges being dropped if they enlisted.

I hope they don't do that anymore.

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