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Demovictory9

(32,479 posts)
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 06:47 AM Nov 2021

"had Trump Not dismantled the CDC teams that where deployed internationally to monitor significate d

had Trump Not dismantled the CDC teams that where deployed internationally to monitor significate disease out-breaks abroad, alert the CDC based in the Us and address before it becomes a Pandemic, like they did with SARS and the Obama/ Biden administration, we would not be here,
TRUMP fired them and made other countries leaders communicate issues directly with the White House. trump hid the information. then invested in Hydroxy-chloroquine and tried to get the Us and Other countries to invest in it as a vaccine.



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"had Trump Not dismantled the CDC teams that where deployed internationally to monitor significate d (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2021 OP
I've brought that up before and was told the Chinese blocked them from learning anything brewens Nov 2021 #1
That was in early 2020, when the US tried to go back in and China said no. pnwmom Nov 2021 #2
I think they meant the Chinese wouldn't allow crucial access even when we had them there. n/t brewens Nov 2021 #3
That's not what Trump's CDC said at the time. pnwmom Nov 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #5
It's time to let go of, "When they see how bad he's been, they'll turn against him." Girard442 Nov 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #8
The only way Trump supporters will move on is when he dies. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #16
When he dies he will achieve mythical status wirh them Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #20
I'm Sure Folks Here Will Recall... ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #10
It is worse than that because in the fall of 2019 Trump was told about the coming pandemic ..... Botany Nov 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #11
I remember that, the man is cartoon level evil uponit7771 Nov 2021 #13
I believe a large part of why Kushner shipped all that PPE to China was that both he and TFG Botany Nov 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #15
Why do I think that Durham gets his orders from Putin? Botany Nov 2021 #17
+1 2naSalit Nov 2021 #18
So much corruption involving TFG & his cronies, Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2021 #21
K&R, the us in this position with CV19 cause Putin's Whore uponit7771 Nov 2021 #12
President Obama left manuel for virus and TFG ignored it LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #19

brewens

(13,626 posts)
1. I've brought that up before and was told the Chinese blocked them from learning anything
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 07:51 AM
Nov 2021

anyway. Dumbfucks don't realize it's like with weapons inspectors. What they block you from tells you something. Plus there can be whistleblowers or leakers. We don't learn as much having no one there.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
2. That was in early 2020, when the US tried to go back in and China said no.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 07:56 AM
Nov 2021

But we'd withdrawn our epidemiologists by September 2019, so that's on us.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc-expert-job-in-china-months-before-virus-outbreak-idUSKBN21910S

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.

The American disease expert, a medical epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency, left her post in July, according to four sources with knowledge of the issue. The first cases of the new coronavirus may have emerged as early as November, and as cases exploded, the Trump administration in February chastised China for censoring information about the outbreak and keeping U.S. experts from entering the country to help.

“It was heartbreaking to watch,” said Bao-Ping Zhu, a Chinese American who served in that role, which was funded by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, between 2007 and 2011. “If someone had been there, public health officials and governments across the world could have moved much faster.”

Zhu and the other sources said the American expert, Dr. Linda Quick, was a trainer of Chinese field epidemiologists who were deployed to the epicenter of outbreaks to help track, investigate and contain diseases.

As an American CDC employee, they said, Quick was in an ideal position to be the eyes and ears on the ground for the United States and other countries on the coronavirus outbreak, and might have alerted them to the growing threat weeks earlier.

No other foreign disease experts were embedded to lead the program after Quick left in July, according to the sources. Zhu said an embedded expert can often get word of outbreaks early, after forming close relationships with Chinese counterparts.

SNIP

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
4. That's not what Trump's CDC said at the time.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 08:03 AM
Nov 2021
In a statement to Reuters before the report was published, the CDC said the elimination of the adviser position did not hinder Washington’s ability to get information and “had absolutely nothing to do with CDC not learning of cases in China earlier.”

The agency said its decision not to have a resident adviser “started well before last summer and was due to China’s excellent technical capability and maturity of the program.”


This seems more likely:

Quick left amid a bitter U.S. trade dispute with China when she learned her federally funded post, officially known as resident adviser to the U.S. Field Epidemiology Training Program in China, would be discontinued as of September, the sources said.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Girard442

(6,086 posts)
6. It's time to let go of, "When they see how bad he's been, they'll turn against him."
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 09:04 AM
Nov 2021

They've known all along what he is. They approve.

When the Nazis were planning the Blitzkreig, it was crystal clear that lots of people would die -- theirs and the adversaries. They didn't care. They probably looked forward to it.

Response to Girard442 (Reply #6)

Lonestarblue

(10,097 posts)
16. The only way Trump supporters will move on is when he dies.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 09:51 AM
Nov 2021

And the danger then is that their adulation will simply be transferred to Junior or to Ivanka—more likely Junior because so many of them believe that the Bible says women should stay at home, stay silent, and stay pregnant.

Democrats need to stop focusing on Trump and offer appeals to people’s emotions to make life better for them and their children. Such appeals will go over the heads of the hard core Trumpies, but there are enough independents who lean Republican because they want low taxes and smaller government but can be convinced that Democrats offer a better deal. In this country now, a lot of people look just at what benefits them and to hell with anyone else.

ProfessorGAC

(65,228 posts)
7. I'm Sure Folks Here Will Recall...
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 09:08 AM
Nov 2021

...that the idiot prince actually said the government couldn't continue to pay people "just in case something happens".
Unsurprising from a guy who never met a risk he wouldn't take.
The idea of preventative measures is beyond his tiny mind, so let's fire 'em and brag about saving a few million out of a multi trillion dollar budget.

Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #7)

Botany

(70,599 posts)
9. It is worse than that because in the fall of 2019 Trump was told about the coming pandemic .....
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 09:11 AM
Nov 2021

.... and instead of getting the country ready for "it" he and Jared invested in hydroxychloroquine &
their own C-19 test kit on order to make money off of the oncoming nightmare.

TFG got rid of Obama's pandemic task force in 2017, in 2018 he fired the CDC's epidemiologist
who was on the ground in Wuhan, China, and in Sept. of 2019 pulled us out of an international
global health network called predict.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

And don't forget Kushner and Pompeo sent 18 tons of PPE to China in Feb. of 2020 which caused thousands of
doctors, nurses, 1st res-ponders, and others to be exposed to the virus which caused them to get sick, sometimes
die, and spread the disease.

BTW what I want to know is why TFG, Governors like Abbot & DeSantis, and right wing media like News Max &
Fox News are trying to deliberately spread the disease?


Response to Botany (Reply #9)

Botany

(70,599 posts)
14. I believe a large part of why Kushner shipped all that PPE to China was that both he and TFG
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 09:41 AM
Nov 2021

owed and still owe China millions of dollars. BTW TFG owing China, Saudi Arabia, and along with
Russia was all in the Steele Dossier (pee pee tapes) none of which has been dis-proven.





Response to Botany (Reply #14)

Botany

(70,599 posts)
17. Why do I think that Durham gets his orders from Putin?
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 10:09 AM
Nov 2021

We need to rip off the band aid and expose the Russia/Republican/Fox News connections.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
21. So much corruption involving TFG & his cronies,
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 08:54 PM
Dec 2021

I doubt we'll ever uncover all of it, much less make them suffer consequences for it.

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