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Will not have their names revealed at Ghisline Maxwells trial.
That's how justice works!
JAIL ONLY THE POOR.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Per usual .
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a few who will do that, yes. But by far most people do not and despise the few who do.
And in that sense isn't "the usual" very unusual? Bet they don't do it at work, except for those paid to say those things, and let's hope none are posted here.
Let's keep right up front that sex with vulnerable adolescent girls is a serious crime because it reflects society's values. It is legally nonconsensual, even if the underage person consents, because of the vast disparity in perceived authority and influence of predatory adults over adolescents. These girls don't have to be nonconsenting to be victims, and that reflects society's values. Something to keep in mind when someone does portray any of them as willing. Irrelevant to the crime -- society rules.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)However, its usual for some in the media to attack the victims as being non-credible instead of the perpetrators being out right abusers. Even when the victims are under the age of consent
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Painful to think of what some must have gone through in their private lives due to the public attention. I'd be surprised if, for some, that wasn't the biggest injury from being preyed on. Just hope they all have good support to bring them through this as well as possible.
rurallib
(62,387 posts)'freedom of press' amendment to help push the meme that they were 'not innocents.'
Sure is nice when the press is corporate owned.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)and maybe the prince
otherwise they will completely ignore it - on those 1500 stations there wil be no association with trump and that idiot fox lawyer
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)A court case was filed in 2016, but it was eventually settled out of court after the victim got many death threats from Trump supporters. That the religious right continues to support this degenerate says a lot about their own religion, or should I say lack of religion. For anyone who wants to read it, heres the case number. Its quite revolting.
Case 5:16-cv-00797-DMG-KS
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,194 posts)karynnj
(59,498 posts)I wonder if a more benign reason is that if those names were made public in the trial, attention would be very much diverted from Maxwell to them. I doubt that that would be helpful in determining the extent of her (and Epstein's) guilt.
However, once this trial is over, I do think that those men should be accused and - if there is sufficient evidence, indicted and tried. I do not know if there are statue of limitation issues.
live love laugh
(13,081 posts)karynnj
(59,498 posts)Anything that distracts from what she and Epstein did is not helpful in determining her guilt. Her actions would have been just as evil if the men were not as prominent (even if equally rich). My point was ONLY to suggest that there could be a good reason to NOT name the men in this trial. However, outside this trial, they should face consequences.
I do think that whether or not she is convicted, if there is a way to investigate the charges and if warranted indict the men, it should be done.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,362 posts)There is a very good reason why Epstein didn't survive long enough to go to trial.
It's because the powers that be wanted it that way.
zaj
(3,433 posts)He committed suicide because he got caught.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,362 posts)but OK, fine.
Maxwell is guilty of facilitating, but she isn't Epstein.
Sur Zobra
(3,428 posts)of some of those girls
zaj
(3,433 posts)Killing him literally doesn't accomplish what the conspiracy theorists claim. So why the need for overwhelming complexity.
He's a the world's most miserable and most famous pedophile in prison. He killed himself. Or he was killed like any other pedophile. Both are far more likely than he was killed to hide the names that are still out there right now.
It's silly.
Dan
(3,539 posts)Kind of like the suicides of POC in the south; he hung himself after being shot with his hands tied behind his back. Suicide.
wnylib
(21,346 posts)There are too many powerful and famous people who would not want their names and deeds known.
But there is a good chance, I think, that those names will get leaked.
nycbos
(6,034 posts)... but do you have a source for this statement?
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)They said trial will not be televised, and don't expect any names to be dropped because it would cause chaos.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)Same reason Republicans get away with shit so much when they are in power. There is an old boys and girls club mentality in Washington. And it probably touches both sides, even if more on one side.
How many investigations were in secret or just not happen under Bush Jr.? Or even after they left power and under Obama? The "move forward" strategy was in part about not upsetting the apple cart because it might embarrass top career politicians, and send a shock wave though an already distrusted political house.
Joinfortmill
(14,397 posts)Some reporter somewhere is on this.
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IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Merrick Garland can still go after them so they can each face their own trials. Maybe that's wishful thinking.
Midnight Writer
(21,719 posts)quaint
(2,552 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,702 posts)Wonder if any of the "clients" will be subpoenaed? Yeah right.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,374 posts)At least I would hope so.
womanofthehills
(8,665 posts)Like the women Trump paid off.
Autumn
(44,986 posts)very powerful people, committed some horrific crimes. We have a right to know who they are and if they are or have been in charge of governments they must be tried in an open court of law.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)Part that lets felons run for government positions?
https://www.thefreemanonline.org/can-a-felon-run-for-president/
Getting rid of that would get the republicans out of government,for most of them are criminals.
Raine
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by the system.
moondust
(19,963 posts)that those with great wealth and name recognition may be despicable human beings.
Epstein's mansion in Palm Beach was within walking distance from Mar-a-Loco.
How one Epstein victim was said to be recruited from Mar-a-Lago, and all the other connections between the accused sex trafficker and Trump's Palm Beach resort
OldBaldy1701E
(5,092 posts)The fact is that I have yet to meet a rich, powerful person who was a saint or anything like it. In order to amass that kind of wealth, you have had to have been the opposite of a saint in order to get it. There is no way some of the richest people in this country got that way (and maintain it) solely because of investments and successful businesses. They got that way because they are greedy and do not care what they do to their fellow man or who they destroy as long as they continue to rake in more of the green paper. (In fairness, I would love to meet a rich saint, but I am not holding my breath.)
FakeNoose
(32,599 posts)Somebody will leak them somehow. It's almost a sure thing.
Ray Bruns
(4,081 posts)By George, I think you've got it.