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All The Super Rich Folk That Raped The Little Girls At Epsteins House (Original Post) DanieRains Nov 2021 OP
Let the character assassinations of the little girls begin..... Heartstrings Nov 2021 #1
"The usual?" Well, in the sense that there are always Hortensis Nov 2021 #19
Absolutely! Heartstrings Nov 2021 #22
:) Yes, and not just in the media. Hortensis Nov 2021 #26
and the media will repeat these character assassinations under the rurallib Nov 2021 #21
Agree! nt Heartstrings Nov 2021 #23
not just the girls. i can guarantee RW radio's only mentions of it will relate somehow to clintons certainot Nov 2021 #24
They will certainly not mention that Trump was one of those rapists. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #30
They will claim that they were innocent victims of nasty little girls. olegramps Nov 2021 #29
do you think any of the RICH PEOPLE'S names will be leaked out?? Trueblue1968 Nov 2021 #32
Maxwell herself has lived a life of privilege karynnj Nov 2021 #2
The men are guilty too--both truths can coexist. nt live love laugh Nov 2021 #7
If they did rape the girls, they certainly are - My point was that this is the trial of Maxwell karynnj Nov 2021 #9
This can't POSSIBLY be a surprise. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2021 #3
Maxwell is alive and knows all the same information zaj Nov 2021 #4
I don't believe the suicide story for a second..... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2021 #5
She also participated in the rapes Sur Zobra Nov 2021 #6
Occam's Razor zaj Nov 2021 #13
Agreed. ShazzieB Nov 2021 #16
Yes, I am with you on the suicide story. Dan Nov 2021 #17
I don't believe the suicide story, either. wnylib Nov 2021 #27
We all know there are different rules for the rich... nycbos Nov 2021 #8
I Watched Them Talking About It On MSNBC DanieRains Nov 2021 #10
Garland will rule it is for "National Security" reasons LiberalLovinLug Nov 2021 #20
Horrible, but it will all come out sooner or later. Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #12
If the FBI knows about them IronLionZion Nov 2021 #14
I'm still waiting for the client list from the DC Madam. Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #15
Me too. quaint Nov 2021 #28
Total BS. Protect the rich, white, guilty men. Go after the women. So disgusted with U.S. "justice" Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #18
The young ladies who were taken advatage of must know names - eventually they will come to light. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2021 #25
Probably lots of the young women received money to keep quiet womanofthehills Nov 2021 #39
If it would cause "chaos" to release the names that must mean some very important people, Autumn Nov 2021 #31
Wish we could remove the I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2021 #33
We'll never get the names, those people are always protected Raine Nov 2021 #34
Another reminder moondust Nov 2021 #35
Well OldBaldy1701E Nov 2021 #36
I'm sure the documents will be leaked ... sooner or later FakeNoose Nov 2021 #37
JAIL ONLY THE POOR. Ray Bruns Nov 2021 #38

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. "The usual?" Well, in the sense that there are always
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:49 PM
Nov 2021

a few who will do that, yes. But by far most people do not and despise the few who do.

And in that sense isn't "the usual" very unusual? Bet they don't do it at work, except for those paid to say those things, and let's hope none are posted here.

Let's keep right up front that sex with vulnerable adolescent girls is a serious crime because it reflects society's values. It is legally nonconsensual, even if the underage person consents, because of the vast disparity in perceived authority and influence of predatory adults over adolescents. These girls don't have to be nonconsenting to be victims, and that reflects society's values. Something to keep in mind when someone does portray any of them as willing. Irrelevant to the crime -- society rules.


Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
22. Absolutely!
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 02:02 PM
Nov 2021

However, it’s “usual” for some in the media to attack the victims as being non-credible instead of the perpetrators being out right abusers. Even when the victims are under the age of consent….

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. :) Yes, and not just in the media.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 02:32 PM
Nov 2021

Painful to think of what some must have gone through in their private lives due to the public attention. I'd be surprised if, for some, that wasn't the biggest injury from being preyed on. Just hope they all have good support to bring them through this as well as possible.

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
21. and the media will repeat these character assassinations under the
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:57 PM
Nov 2021

'freedom of press' amendment to help push the meme that they were 'not innocents.'

Sure is nice when the press is corporate owned.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
24. not just the girls. i can guarantee RW radio's only mentions of it will relate somehow to clintons
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 02:08 PM
Nov 2021

and maybe the prince

otherwise they will completely ignore it - on those 1500 stations there wil be no association with trump and that idiot fox lawyer

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
30. They will certainly not mention that Trump was one of those rapists.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 03:12 PM
Nov 2021

A court case was filed in 2016, but it was eventually settled out of court after the victim got many death threats from Trump supporters. That the religious right continues to support this degenerate says a lot about their own religion, or should I say lack of religion. For anyone who wants to read it, here’s the case number. It’s quite revolting.

Case 5:16-cv-00797-DMG-KS

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
2. Maxwell herself has lived a life of privilege
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 12:38 PM
Nov 2021

I wonder if a more benign reason is that if those names were made public in the trial, attention would be very much diverted from Maxwell to them. I doubt that that would be helpful in determining the extent of her (and Epstein's) guilt.

However, once this trial is over, I do think that those men should be accused and - if there is sufficient evidence, indicted and tried. I do not know if there are statue of limitation issues.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
9. If they did rape the girls, they certainly are - My point was that this is the trial of Maxwell
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:21 PM
Nov 2021

Anything that distracts from what she and Epstein did is not helpful in determining her guilt. Her actions would have been just as evil if the men were not as prominent (even if equally rich). My point was ONLY to suggest that there could be a good reason to NOT name the men in this trial. However, outside this trial, they should face consequences.

I do think that whether or not she is convicted, if there is a way to investigate the charges and if warranted indict the men, it should be done.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
3. This can't POSSIBLY be a surprise.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 12:38 PM
Nov 2021

There is a very good reason why Epstein didn't survive long enough to go to trial.

It's because the powers that be wanted it that way.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
5. I don't believe the suicide story for a second.....
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 12:46 PM
Nov 2021

but OK, fine.

Maxwell is guilty of facilitating, but she isn't Epstein.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
13. Occam's Razor
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:27 PM
Nov 2021

Killing him literally doesn't accomplish what the conspiracy theorists claim. So why the need for overwhelming complexity.

He's a the world's most miserable and most famous pedophile in prison. He killed himself. Or he was killed like any other pedophile. Both are far more likely than he was killed to hide the names that are still out there right now.

It's silly.

Dan

(3,539 posts)
17. Yes, I am with you on the suicide story.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:45 PM
Nov 2021

Kind of like the suicides of POC in the south; he hung himself after being shot with his hands tied behind his back. Suicide.

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
27. I don't believe the suicide story, either.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 02:48 PM
Nov 2021

There are too many powerful and famous people who would not want their names and deeds known.

But there is a good chance, I think, that those names will get leaked.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
8. We all know there are different rules for the rich...
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:06 PM
Nov 2021

... but do you have a source for this statement?

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
10. I Watched Them Talking About It On MSNBC
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:22 PM
Nov 2021

They said trial will not be televised, and don't expect any names to be dropped because it would cause chaos.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
20. Garland will rule it is for "National Security" reasons
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:53 PM
Nov 2021

Same reason Republicans get away with shit so much when they are in power. There is an old boys and girls club mentality in Washington. And it probably touches both sides, even if more on one side.

How many investigations were in secret or just not happen under Bush Jr.? Or even after they left power and under Obama? The "move forward" strategy was in part about not upsetting the apple cart because it might embarrass top career politicians, and send a shock wave though an already distrusted political house.

Response to DanieRains (Original post)

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
14. If the FBI knows about them
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:33 PM
Nov 2021

Merrick Garland can still go after them so they can each face their own trials. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

Evolve Dammit

(16,702 posts)
18. Total BS. Protect the rich, white, guilty men. Go after the women. So disgusted with U.S. "justice"
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:46 PM
Nov 2021

Wonder if any of the "clients" will be subpoenaed? Yeah right.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,374 posts)
25. The young ladies who were taken advatage of must know names - eventually they will come to light.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 02:23 PM
Nov 2021

At least I would hope so.

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
31. If it would cause "chaos" to release the names that must mean some very important people,
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 04:55 PM
Nov 2021

very powerful people, committed some horrific crimes. We have a right to know who they are and if they are or have been in charge of governments they must be tried in an open court of law.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
33. Wish we could remove the
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 01:38 AM
Nov 2021

Part that lets felons run for government positions?

https://www.thefreemanonline.org/can-a-felon-run-for-president/


Getting rid of that would get the republicans out of government,for most of them are criminals.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
34. We'll never get the names, those people are always protected
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:01 AM
Nov 2021

Last edited Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:40 AM - Edit history (1)

by the system.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,092 posts)
36. Well
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 09:05 AM
Nov 2021

The fact is that I have yet to meet a rich, powerful person who was a saint or anything like it. In order to amass that kind of wealth, you have had to have been the opposite of a saint in order to get it. There is no way some of the richest people in this country got that way (and maintain it) solely because of investments and successful businesses. They got that way because they are greedy and do not care what they do to their fellow man or who they destroy as long as they continue to rake in more of the green paper. (In fairness, I would love to meet a rich saint, but I am not holding my breath.)

FakeNoose

(32,599 posts)
37. I'm sure the documents will be leaked ... sooner or later
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 10:14 AM
Nov 2021

Somebody will leak them somehow. It's almost a sure thing.

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