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keithbvadu2

(36,763 posts)
3. Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 03:38 PM
Dec 2021

Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.

Pro-life to conservatives/republicans is a myth.

The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.

It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.

It is a matter of control.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
4. They don't care about living, breathing, out in-the-world children.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 03:38 PM
Dec 2021

They do use "think of the children" as a cudgel to advance restrictions they wish to enact or as a means to scold and attack.

They need women to adhere to their world view, either willingly or forced, and they don't care which. They are more than happy to use force.

That worldview is rooted in male supremacy, and they do mean white, male supremacy - regardless of any non-white or non-male allies.

The world only feels safe to them if everyone behaves as they demand they behave. Otherwise, they become defensive because everyone who disagrees with them is their enemy. They can't let people just live their lives because that might involve a way of life they don't approve of - and that is seen as a challenge to their beliefs and those they simply can't abide.

Anything they see as a challenge to their beliefs is, for them, the same as questioning their very existence.

They need to be able to point to single women who get pregnant as a cautionary tale - the whole "wages of sin" and "bad women" stories they tell other women and young girls to keep them in line.

They need women to die from unsafe abortions for the same reason.

Because those things fit their narrative of how the world should be and how "good girls" should behave.

Being against abortion is not about children. It never was - it's about controlling women.











crickets

(25,962 posts)
10. Thanks for that! George Carlin could not have said it better.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 04:09 PM
Dec 2021

Sister Joan Chittister makes many of the same points he did, and she is absolutely right.



The above is the clip most people remember. George had lots more to say about 'the sanctity of life':




The man was amazing.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
7. Interesting Guardian article linked in tweet thread:
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 03:45 PM
Dec 2021

There’s a straight line from US racial segregation to the anti-abortion movement
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/08/abortion-us-religious-right-racial-segregation

Evangelicals considered abortion a “Catholic issue” through most of the 1970s, and there is little in the history of evangelicalism to suggest that abortion would become a point of interest. Even James Dobson, who later became an implacable foe of abortion, acknowledged after the Roe decision that the Bible was silent on the matter and that it was plausible for an evangelical to hold that “a developing embryo or fetus was not regarded as a full human being”. [snip]

Indeed, in 1971 the Southern Baptist Convention had passed a resolution calling to legalize abortion. When the Roe decision was handed down, some evangelicals applauded the ruling as marking an appropriate distinction between personal morality and public policy. Although he later – 14 years later – claimed that opposition to abortion was the catalyst for his political activism, Jerry Falwell did not preach his first anti-abortion sermon until February 1978, more than five years after Roe.

Falwell, who had founded his own segregation academy in 1967, was eager to join forces with Weyrich and others to mount a defense against the IRS and its attempts to enforce the Brown v Board of Education decision of 1954 and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. “In some states,” Falwell famously groused, “it’s easier to open a massage parlor than a Christian school.”

So how did evangelicals become interested in abortion? As nearly as I can tell from my conversation with Weyrich, during a conference call with Falwell and other evangelicals strategizing about how to retain their tax exemptions, someone suggested that they might have the makings of a political movement and wondered what other issues would work for them. Several suggestions followed, and then a voice on the line said, “How about abortion?”


It boils down to racism, money, and power. Same old, same old.

onecaliberal

(32,818 posts)
9. Republicans killed 700,000 people. They sacrificed the old and now they want to do the same with
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 04:04 PM
Dec 2021

children. They don't give a crap about any life. They only care about money and power. They are causing and creating misery and death. They are the party of death. We have the 700,000 receipts and the video of that bloated fucking tic bragging to Woodward about how dangerous and deadly COVID was at the same time he was telling Americans it was like the flu.

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