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patphil

(6,162 posts)
5. A fetus is the perfect "person" to love if you actually dislike people who breathe.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:11 PM
Dec 2021

This is painfully obvious when you listen to the pro-lifer's words and then observe their actions down the road.
It becomes evident that there is nothing more worthless to a pro-lifer than a born child. At that point the child is simply a liability to them and to the community.
No love to be given there.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
7. a very dumb question ?
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:37 PM
Dec 2021

I'M not trying to piss people or to sound stupid - how long has abortion fight's been going on ?

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
9. To long.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:51 PM
Dec 2021

Roe vs Wade gave women rights over their own bodies.

And now the conservative and partisan SCOTUS can slap it all down. Obviously the uterus deficient are capable of making laws that basically say women are to stupid to have any right over their own gawd dayum bodies.

Sorry, I am a little pissed here, not taking it out on you.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
12. sheshe2 -I'M 72 yrs old & this has been around a long time !
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:44 AM
Dec 2021

that's why I asked ! to me , this is not a god damn man subject ! this damn el supreme 'o court shit & they have the last say so is total bull-shit ! I apologize for the language , they are not god ! get the religion out of this ! they have no say so on what a women should do or what not to do !

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
15. I am 69, monkeyman.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:53 AM
Dec 2021

I will fight until I die. I just wanted to leave a better place for the young ones we leave behind.

Language, not an issue. I use far worse.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
11. I love your grandmother.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:41 AM
Dec 2021

She was protecting women before I was born.

Thanks to you and yours, Bright.

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
13. Thanks. I loved her, too. I never knew about it until I was in my 20s.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:51 AM
Dec 2021

I thought she was a good Catholic lady who supported the Church's position on overturning Roe v. Wade after 1973.

Then one day she sat me down and told me about a friend who'd died from a self-induced abortion on the "home front" during WWII.

Quietly, my grandmother and some of her friends located nurses and other 'safe' providers, and helped young women in distress. They went to other states and even to Canada (it was illegal there, too, but there were Canadian providers who helped.)

They never talked about it, even after 1973. They weren't activists, or radical, they were just taking care of women in need.

Too many died.

Too many.

But somehow I don't think it's going to go that way again.

This time there won't be the silence.

We'll go to jail if we have to. We'll do whatever's necessary. We'll be LOUD. In public.

The stories will be shouted, not whispered.

The rape victims, the abused girls, the desperate women with health conditions and no support, the battered women.

We won't shut up.

The deaths will not be covered up with bullshit stories about "infections" or "pneumonia" or "sepsis following a dental procedure" or any of the dozens of lies that were told to keep people from knowing the actual body count.

Not again.

determinedly,
Bright

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
16. Your Grandmother was a good Catholic lady.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 01:06 AM
Dec 2021

She knew what was right and wrong. She was one strong woman to stand against many.

I grew up in the Episcopal church. Loved it and grew away from it. I don't believe in any of it anymore.

You have said it all perfectly here. We will fight until the end. I will not leave anyone in a worse place than which we came. Last breath is to make it right.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
14. bet people don't remember when guys -
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:52 AM
Dec 2021

got caught for rape & got chemical casterations ? used to be in the head-lines all the time !!
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