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Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
2. Yes, and until women start demanding that the state or the impregnating man
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:13 PM
Dec 2021

compensate them for the labor and risk of life it will just keep going this way.

Let’s start the conversation by talking about free healthcare for all women of childbearing age, free childcare. A model for financial compensation for the work of producing a baby begins by looking to what surrogates are paid.

If the government won’t step up to the task- notable the republicans block anything reasonable, bonds should be required of all men capable of causing a pregnancy. If the state won’t fund these costs, then males should be forced to either have a vasectomy or post a million dollar bond. Any pregnancies that they cause the woman ( now forced to produce the child against her will) could draw upon for this for pain, suffering, risk of life and work.

It’s time to turn the tables here. Either individual males post bonds or the government pays. Child production forced upon anyone should not be uncompensated.

niyad

(113,302 posts)
4. Would you consider posting this as its own OP for visibilitu
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:18 PM
Dec 2021

and so I can rec it? I would love to see it in Women's Rights And Issues.Thanks in advance.

Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
7. Thanks Niyad , I just did.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:31 PM
Dec 2021

But I think I am also going to post it in general, but not many people ever see or respond to my posts.

Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
11. Thank you- I always read what you post!
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:53 PM
Dec 2021

All these decades on DU, you have enriched my life, thank you.

niyad

(113,302 posts)
17. You honor me. It is inspiring to be part of a
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 01:16 AM
Dec 2021

community of such smart, articulate, aware, talented, and endearing people.

Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
14. Thank you! I love reading what you post too
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:06 AM
Dec 2021

And I am very glad that you started the discussion. I am so furious!

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
3. In their twisted logic and argument, you would only be a slave for 10 months.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:17 PM
Dec 2021

You can simply give the baby away for adoption, problem solved. You aren't a slave for life.....

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
8. that was the argument (safe heaven laws)
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:37 PM
Dec 2021

apparently, women can also find prospective parents who may fund the pregnancy contingent upon adoption. No one was arguing that a woman is to raise a baby, just to carry fetus till birth.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
13. That apparently the twisted argument Barrett used.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:05 AM
Dec 2021

Too bad she wasn't forced to be pregnant every year. And see how she likes it.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
6. When it comes up again, argue that it violates the 13th Amendment
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:26 PM
Dec 2021

The one about involuntary servitude. If being forced to endure potentially life-threatening childbirth by the government isn’t involuntary servitude, I don’t know what is.

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
10. Maybe the woman needing an abortion should simply use the defense that she was in fear of her life
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:43 PM
Dec 2021

It works for men with guns

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
15. Don't forget that a big part is them relying on these women being poor or these babies
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:13 AM
Dec 2021

becoming wards of the state. That leaves children who are easy to not be given sufficient education and become low wage earners or perhaps slaves.

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
16. Maybe women who are forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:21 AM
Dec 2021

to term can sue a random Republican voter for $1 Million to pay for the upbringing of said child.

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