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The PR on the school killer in Michigan is in full swing. (Original Post) irisblue Dec 2021 OP
++ llashram Dec 2021 #1
Is this what they mean... orwell Dec 2021 #2
There are numerous images on Twitter from his instagram, with his name attached irisblue Dec 2021 #3
Hmm, wonder where he learned to think that was cool? nt BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #7
Perhaps because the entire American culture around him teaches "guns are cool" sanatanadharma Dec 2021 #16
Yeah, ya think? nt BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #18
Glorified version rownesheck Dec 2021 #20
Literally using a pic from years ago Johnny2X2X Dec 2021 #4
I would not even have recognized them as the same boy - even guessing the photos 2 or 3 years apart! karynnj Dec 2021 #5
It's not PR. It's about getting views and clicks Sympthsical Dec 2021 #6
Well ok, except why do they do the exact opposite robbob Dec 2021 #22
It isn't a universal consistent thing Sympthsical Dec 2021 #27
It's damn sure worked, on this thread. (nt) Paladin Dec 2021 #23
I find that "angelic child" photo creepy and chilling as hell eShirl Dec 2021 #26
The PR won't work. The litte killer was caught red-handed with the smoking gun... brush Dec 2021 #8
I don't understand why people get so upset over things. jimfields33 Dec 2021 #12
Yeah, his life is toast. And just what, 15? This is clearly an illustration of how...q brush Dec 2021 #15
Looked like a sweet boy at one time. I guess adolescence, Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #9
I don't vilify the boy. I vilify the adults including the SC justices that made it so easy Beakybird Dec 2021 #10
H mm guess PR will not show any of his posts luckone Dec 2021 #11
Baller Report? Who? Blue_Adept Dec 2021 #13
This. Thank you. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #19
tilting at windmills maxsolomon Dec 2021 #14
What we need is a judge to shut this media stuff down. nt abqtommy Dec 2021 #17
One who hasn't read the first amendment? onenote Dec 2021 #21
To be fair sarisataka Dec 2021 #25
The NY Post is calling him "bullied suspect." gldstwmn Dec 2021 #24
Public Relations in favor of this sick punk? msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #28
I think posting images of him looking like a praying angel is attempting irisblue Dec 2021 #29
Wow. I hadn't seen those images. msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #30

irisblue

(37,513 posts)
3. There are numerous images on Twitter from his instagram, with his name attached
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:00 PM
Dec 2021

So I won't bring those images here, with him holding the murder weapon and him doing the oh so impressive selfies with weapon in pants pocket flashing gang signs.

sanatanadharma

(4,089 posts)
16. Perhaps because the entire American culture around him teaches "guns are cool"
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 01:44 PM
Dec 2021

American culture glorifies guns to the point (for some) of Deification.

Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
4. Literally using a pic from years ago
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:03 PM
Dec 2021

And one that has him praying like a little choir boy.

He murdered 4 people, use a picture that is appropriate.

Compare it to Trayvon Martin, who the media used his most recent and mature looking pictures after he was murdered. They couldn't wait to try to make Martin look as old as possible.

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
5. I would not even have recognized them as the same boy - even guessing the photos 2 or 3 years apart!
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:06 PM
Dec 2021

The shape of his face and his eyes look quite different.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
6. It's not PR. It's about getting views and clicks
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:08 PM
Dec 2021

Show a somewhat crazed pic of a murderer, and people will think, "Yeah, that's about right."

Show an angelic child who could never harm anyone, but suddenly four people are dead and it's, "What the hell happened here?!"

It creates this distance between picture and headline, so people are more likely to perk up and take notice. The brain wants that gap filled in.

Once you notice it, you see it all the time. Think of when a husband/father ups and kills his entire family. A lot of those stories aren't with his mugshot at the top. They'll be a picture of him and his family smiling, holding the kids, so All-American and wholesome.

"What went wrong?!"

It's a draw, and it works.

robbob

(3,750 posts)
22. Well ok, except why do they do the exact opposite
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 02:53 PM
Dec 2021

When the accused is a person of colour?

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
27. It isn't a universal consistent thing
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:58 AM
Dec 2021

But it happens often enough to be noticeable, and they've done it with PoC as well. You'll see it whenever a gulf can be created between expectation vs. reality. I don't keep a rolodex of offenders in my mind, so I can't think of examples off the top of my head.

But you'll see it with a lot of youth cases. If someone's 17 years old and is accused of a heinous crime, for some reason we end up looking at pictures of them when they're 12. Even when there are current pictures available.

And then you get the opposite. I remember the Aurora theater shooter and the mass shooter who almost killed Gabby Giffords both looked particularly crazed in their media coverage.

eShirl

(20,259 posts)
26. I find that "angelic child" photo creepy and chilling as hell
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 03:14 PM
Dec 2021

like a still photo from a horror movie

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
8. The PR won't work. The litte killer was caught red-handed with the smoking gun...
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:18 PM
Dec 2021

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in his hand. He's like the cowardly Dylan Roof, too scared to take his own life so he's ruined many lives other than his and will do long time in prison.

What do these maniacs think is going to happen after they've shot up a school as they stand there with the gun in their hand, that they're going to go home once all the bodies are cleared away?

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
12. I don't understand why people get so upset over things.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 01:17 PM
Dec 2021

This kid is going to jail for life or most of it. This is not Rittenhouse. So far, this kid hasn’t complained about jail conditions yet like another killer just did.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
15. Yeah, his life is toast. And just what, 15? This is clearly an illustration of how...q
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 01:28 PM
Dec 2021

adolescent brains aren't fully developed. What the hell did this idiot killer think was going to happen after killing four and wounding many, that he was just going to go home to be with his parents?

And speaking of the parents, I have a feeling they're going to suffer some repercussions from what their killer spawn just wrought.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
9. Looked like a sweet boy at one time. I guess adolescence,
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:19 PM
Dec 2021

possible mental illness, possible bullying, bad parenting, and a family weapons fetish combined to make him take a dark turn. One of my sons was small, socially awkward, and bullied at times through his school years by various asshole kids--but we didn't keep a fucking arsenal in the house that my sons could access, and we were on top of his problems at school and his need for emotional support/self-esteem. Boys in adolescence have a such a hard time dealing with humiliation and alienation, and that's nothing new--but they can easily make their revenge fantasies a reality now, because American gun culture is fucking out of hand.

Beakybird

(3,397 posts)
10. I don't vilify the boy. I vilify the adults including the SC justices that made it so easy
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:25 PM
Dec 2021

to get a gun.

Blue_Adept

(6,499 posts)
13. Baller Report? Who?
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 01:19 PM
Dec 2021

Why elevate no-name assholes like this.

If you've got the mainstream media doing it, sure, highlight it.

But there's a billion janky "news" sites online just doing clickbait farming for ad revenue. That's not indicative of anything.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
25. To be fair
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 03:04 PM
Dec 2021

The 1st only speaks of Congress.

That said, it would definitely violate the spirit and it's hard to see how a judge could justify an order.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
24. The NY Post is calling him "bullied suspect."
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 03:02 PM
Dec 2021

Further they went on to trumpet mama's support of TFG and the second amendment.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
28. Public Relations in favor of this sick punk?
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 02:12 PM
Dec 2021

is that what you mean by PR in full swing?

trying to be clear in how you are defining PR?

irisblue

(37,513 posts)
29. I think posting images of him looking like a praying angel is attempting
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 03:20 PM
Dec 2021

To plant the idea in the jury pool & society at large that he was a good boy. The Instagram images of him handling the gun & him doing gang signs while the gun is in his jeans are pretty bad.
That is what I mean

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
30. Wow. I hadn't seen those images.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:42 AM
Dec 2021

tears flowing. our society is sick in the head, and I'm sick at heart.

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