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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeSantis proposes a new civilian military force in Florida that he would control
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis wants to reestablish a World War II-era civilian military force that he, not the Pentagon, would control.
DeSantis pitched the idea Thursday as a way to further support the Florida National Guard during emergencies, like hurricanes. The Florida National Guard has also played a vital role during the pandemic in administering Covid-19 tests and distributing vaccines.
But in a nod to the growing tension between Republican states and the Biden administration over the National Guard, DeSantis also said this unit, called the Florida State Guard, would be "not encumbered by the federal government." He said this force would give him "the flexibility and the ability needed to respond to events in our state in the most effective way possible." DeSantis is proposing bringing it back with a volunteer force of 200 civilians, and he is seeking $3.5 million from the state legislature in startup costs to train and equip them.
The move by DeSantis comes on the heels of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin's directive warning that National Guard members who refuse to get vaccinated against the coronavirus will have their pay withheld and barred from training. Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt, a Republican, had requested an exemption for guard members in his state, which Austin denied.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/politics/florida-state-guard-desantis/index.html
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DeSatan is a nazi. Believe it.
Drum
(10,668 posts)Deuxcents
(26,875 posts)When I heard it on the local news. Now, Im very distressed
ColinC
(11,098 posts)But they are entirely voluntary without pay. I wonder how well funded this would be.
onenote
(46,136 posts)Then they often are compensated. For example, New York pays its State Guard members at a rate comparable to the pay for National Guard members when State Guard members are called to active service.
ColinC
(11,098 posts)I worked with a lot in the ca ng when I served, and a lot were in it to fulfill a reserve component that their civilian state job likely requires.
NowISeetheLight
(4,002 posts)Reminds me a bit of 1920s Germany and Hitlers rise to power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
Firestorm49
(4,544 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)He's dangerous.
Baitball Blogger
(52,320 posts)Look at the mess we have with the Jan. 6th Insurrection. Many of those people facing the music feel like they were betrayed by Trump. They felt like he was the commander and chief and he called for their help.
I imagine the same thing will be repeated with De Santis.
Takket
(23,711 posts)Diamond_Dog
(40,544 posts)He can deploy them to monitor voting! What could go wrong?
tulipsandroses
(8,250 posts)What could go wrong?
bluestarone
(22,150 posts)That's exactly the type he would want too!
chowder66
(12,228 posts)There has to be corruption or law breaking with this POS.
Bev54
(13,429 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(13,369 posts)Is getting thier brownshirt army vice police, vilangenties in nazi nightmare. Tyranny uses mercinaries to to control are hellscapes.
Fuck you de satan,evil son of a b
Blue Owl
(59,053 posts)This lunatic needs to be stopped
Woodswalker
(549 posts)Not good and not something I would want to see in my town. Guess thats why I live in NY. Shit like that would never fly here
sarisataka
(22,672 posts)New York has a state guard and naval militia
http://dmna.ny.gov/nyg/
GP6971
(37,995 posts)My grandfather was a member of the NY state guard. It's more like a Frat club than anything resembling a military unit.
Woodswalker
(549 posts)That a red state is pushing your wrong. These guys carry water and assist the national guard and are Unarmed.
sarisataka
(22,672 posts)New York is not armed, except for a competition team. Other states can be armed. For example California:

Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Harker
(17,774 posts)Corgigal
(9,298 posts)have to tax the residents down there for their private military. Good luck with that. Im sure the Mouse will tell the Temp Governor to shove it.
moondust
(21,285 posts)"And then we'll get back to the good ol' days of gettin' rich on the backs of slaves while sippin' our mint juleps. MAGA!"
Bayard
(29,631 posts)Sucha NastyWoman
(3,019 posts)blm
(114,653 posts)sarisataka
(22,672 posts)That is active and almost all of the rest have inactive forces. Depending on the state it can be as few as one person to several thousand members.
State military reserve forces or something
sarisataka
(22,672 posts)Although the name varies in some states
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force
global1
(26,507 posts)weapon for Florida. The guy has a Tr**p power complex. He's crazy and dangerous.
The people of Florida need to smarten up and vote this guy out of office.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)The pentagon refused.
It would be highly unlikely they could legally obtain or possess any.
That at least is a positive.
dgauss
(1,526 posts)Seriously, I would not be surprised.
hadEnuf
(3,610 posts)badhair77
(5,178 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,329 posts)Dictators, autocrats, and strongmen thrive on chaos in the beginning of their rise to power. At first they come to that power legally, within domestic law. Once in power the autocrat takes the law and uses it and bends it, eventually shaping it to his will. This is not an easy process and history shows that this phase of totalitarianism can be marked with strife, chaos, and even bloodshed in the streets. Though the law is a bulwark against tyranny it can also advance it.
Continues
https://www.jurist.org/commentary/2020/09/david-crane-brownshirts-nazi-american-elections/
DBoon
(24,980 posts)or any other Federal requirement.
Stinky The Clown
(68,952 posts)This should frighten EVERYONE
Sunsky
(1,876 posts)If he isn't voted out next year, I'm moving out of this fcking state. I can't even watch the local news anymore because I can't stand to see his face.
rockfordfile
(8,742 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)librechik
(30,957 posts)I just can't. I can't. I picked a bad time to quit Zoloft, that's for sure.
MineralMan
(151,222 posts)Maybe a couple of lightning bolts to signify their membership in the Florida State Stasi.
Deminpenn
(17,497 posts)to escape Castro will think?
lindysalsagal
(22,903 posts)???!!!!?????
Vinca
(53,960 posts)Maybe it would be used to put the cult members in deprogramming camps.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,114 posts)To create this force and then lose the next election to a Democrat who immediately deploys them to make voting safer and to quell stupid riots fostered by the right wing? Who am I kidding, the entire force would quit en masse once someone with a brain got elected.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,773 posts)Mr. Sparkle
(3,706 posts)so ... as in the national guard!
It sounds to me like he is looking to form his own brown shirts. We know his character. All those wannabe dictators are all the same. They need a group of thugs, loyal to him to protect him.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,781 posts)I nominate tRump for Secretary of Invasive Reptile Control.
Oh wait. He is an invasive reptile.....
.....
DFW
(60,169 posts)Just organize your own militia, paid for with taxpayer money, to kill anyone who challenges your rule.
I guess if old-fashioned voter fraud is not cutting it any more, innovate!
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)If the dems win the gov office.......
hadEnuf
(3,610 posts)traitorsgalore
(1,427 posts)Every GOPlague's dream.