Police say someone helped Crumbleys into the building

[iemanja]

where they were hiding out, according to the press conference that just ended.

[SoCalDavidS]

1. You'd Have To Be A Total Moron To Risk Arrest By Helping These Criminals

[iemanja]

2. or a Trumpster gun nut

same thing.

[wnylib]

11. RWers will be coming out in droves

to defend a teen's right to kill his classmates and the rights of parents to flee the consequences.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. Don't know about that one.

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School shootings, and dead children seem to be the point where outrage will finally make a stand. It's the parent's of all those children shot in school who are in the foxholes, fighting against monsters like Alex Jones. We have their backs, but they will carry the moment.

[viva la]

15. We thought that after Sandy Hook

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But apparently the American lust for guns has no end.

[Baitball Blogger]

23. It is a slow, progressing battle. The fight against Alex Jones

was a big win. With each school shooting, we are seeing signs that everyone has had enough. Look what they did in the Crumbley case. They went after the parents! That's progress.

[OrlandoDem2]

17. Wrong. If that were the case we might actually have reasonable gun restrictions.

[durablend]

18. LOL sure it will

Like the others said, if Sandy Hook didn't do it, this sure as hell won't.

Probably a bunch of Go Fund Me's right now set up for them.

[wnylib]

25. My post was about RWNJ behavior,

not about the behavior of the survivors snd their families. It's the RWers who scream the loudest about gun rights, with the most insane justifications. They will continue to do that despite pushback from survivors and families. Sad but true reality.

[Effete Snob]

22. Or simply not know who they are

Not everyone has their nose glued to news 24/7.

There are a lot of unused/underused buildings in Detroit. If this one was used by transients to sleep in, the notion of someone else letting them in doesn’t seem like a big deal.

[SoCalDavidS]

26. That Was Not The Implication AT ALL

During the conference, they were giving every indication that it was intentional, and not by mistake that they were let in. Almost as if it had been pre-arranged. Will wait to find out more, but I do not believe their comments would have been what they were, if it had been a mistake by someone who did not know who they were.

[Effete Snob]

30. Did they do the whole "one word, three syllables, sounds like..." thing?

Absent them coming out and saying what happened, it might not be the best approach to put someone on “social media’s most wanted” list from “implications”.

[iemanja]

27. The police spokesman said it was not an abandoned building

[Effete Snob]

29. "Underused" is not "abandoned"

So, someone let them in. Maybe they had a good story to bluff their way in to a place where someone might catch a a few z’s.

[iemanja]

31. Yes, that is possible

We'll find out soon.

[Effete Snob]

32. Yep, but let's do a drive by character assassination in the meantime

[iemanja]

33. of whom?

No one even knows anything about this unknown person or persons. It hardly constitutes character assassination.

[Effete Snob]

34. Of a person who was identified in a parallel thread

In a parallel thread to this one, it was assumed that a person associated with that address was necessarily the one who let them in.

[iemanja]

35. I agree about that thread

but that wasn't what I was doing in this OP.

[iemanja]

36. turns out they were right

https://democraticunderground.com/100216119643

[Effete Snob]

37. I don't see how you get there from that

First off, guessing correctly is insufficient for going after identified individuals.

But it still appears that it may have been an incorrect guess: "In fact, he was not in the loop."

[iemanja]

39. That is his defense attorney's claim

He is currently being investigated to determine whether what he did was criminal.

But your point about the other thread is still valid. I do not, however, think it applies appropriately to this thread.

[BigmanPigman]

3. That's why they parked in that particular parking lot.

This was planned out by whoever helped them hide. There is even a video of them easily walking into the building from their car and hiding there. No one knows if they were planning to go to Canada.

[iemanja]

4. They must have been planning to go to Cananda

Why else would they have gone to Detroit?

[multigraincracker]

8. The Boarder is pretty tight now.

They might have been looking for a boat ride.

[dem4decades]

9. Isn't it a tough time of year to be boating up there? I picture rough

Conditions or even ice that would make a trip impossible. . But I don't live up there so maybe I'm wrong.

[multigraincracker]

10. Not too bad. Still small craft on the river.

Has to be nice weather and no ice for another few weeks.

https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/usa/michigan/detroit-river-cam-michigan.html

[llmart]

16. Has anyone spoken of where the gun was purchased?

The only thing I've read so far is that it was termed a "used" gun when he bought it and that he bought it "legally", though I don't know what the reporter meant by that.

[Dial H For Hero]

19. I would guess that it was purchased at a retail gun shop, simply because of the timing.

Black Friday sales and all that, but I’m just speculating.

[MrsCoffee]

20. Acme Shooting Goods in Oxford.

https://apnews.com/article/crime-shootings-education-michigan-school-shootings-a734bfa163d0e761b1eac3031ba0569a

[llmart]

21. Thanks for that.

I can only watch so much local news or read so much and then I have to turn it off to maintain my sanity.

Wonder how the residents of Oxford will view this store from here on out.

[Sunsky]

24. Thanks for the article

Wow, the school dropped the ball on this one. As a mental health professional, I see many red flags and as a parent I'm pissed. This child should not have been allowed back in the school until he is mentally cleared to do so. Now that I see that the school counselor was involved, I believe his mental status was assessed and the truth was not told. However, due to the observations of the teachers (the student searching the internet for ammunition, the gory drawing, and ominous words), it should not have been a choice for the student to leave the premises.
I'm also now questioning whether the parents were clueless about their child's online activities and intentions. This seems like a dysfunctional family that needed help.

[shrike3]

28. Yes, I agree. Thanks for your input.

[RockRaven]

5. Hmmm... Accessory after the fact?

Or at least something to leverage against said person to spill their guts about everything the killer-spawners said/did in their hearing/sight?

[blogslug]

6. Here is the press conference that was just held

lol. This independent journalist likes to keep a tight grip on how his vids are distributed. Good for him. If you click the "Watch on YouTube" link, it'll work.

[joshcryer]

12. Thank you.

[LowerManhattanite]

7. I assumed as much.

They were trying to hide out until they could rally enough “fellow travelers” to help them escape somewhere (a red state where pursuit would be less than robust). This was probably just leg one of the journey. Them having “help” getting access makes perfect sense.

[Baitball Blogger]

14. Gee, so another lawyer lied to us.

[maxsolomon]

38. It was a Detroit Artist, Andrzej Sikora

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/michigan-school-shooter-parents-detroit-artist-b1970356.html

He said he doesn't follow the news so didn't know they were wanted.

[iemanja]

40. Huh. I suppose

that's plausible, but it would be interesting to know what they told him.

[maxsolomon]

41. Pretty sure he'll spill the beans

Can't see him having a stake in protecting them.

[Cha]

42. That's exactly what I

was wondering.. what story did they come up with for their reason of hiding out?