How Easy Is It To Get Into Canada From Detroit?......

[global1]

Are the Crumbley's vaccinated? Did they have proof of vaccination cards on them when apprehended? Were Canadian Border Agents notified that these two might try to flee to Canada?

Lot's of questions here. Especially after seeing them exhibit this suspicious behavior.

[Wingus Dingus]

1. Not easy, based on pandemic precautions

and recent family experience. Need to not only have passport and vax cards, but recent negative Covid pcr test (they do offer those at the border for a lot of money, however, you just have to wait).

[Siwsan]

2. I have no doubt the all border stations were notified

Maybe as far north as Ste. St. Marie.

Somehow I doubt that rational thinking was a part of their plan.

[brush]

5. Any idea how many bridges and tunnels are there between Detroit...

and Windsor?

[Siwsan]

6. Ambassador Bridge and Windsor Tunnel in Detroit. Blue Water Bridge in Port Huron

Port Huron is north of Detroit.

[brush]

8. Thanks. How does customs work when crossing?

[Siwsan]

9. I haven't crossed since things tightened up, so I'm not sure

At one time you just had to show a driver's license and maybe answer a few questions. Now you need an 'enhanced' license or passport and, no doubt, a proof of vaccination or recent test.

[brush]

11. Thanks. Wonder if the parents thought about trying to cross...

but realized they'd never make it and ended up in commercial building basement?

Abysmally poor decision making by these people.

[Siwsan]

13. This probably reflects the pattern of their lives

One stupid decision after another.

Seeing how many times the dad added a 'now working at' post on Facebook was pretty telling.

And, if she was selling real estate - well, that's probably a thing of the past. They will surely blame others, but they have destroyed their own lives.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

14. Enhanced ID or passport plus proof of vaccination or negative covid test

Crossed a couple weeks ago. That's all I needed. Questions were the usual, where are you from, where you going, what's the purpose of your visit, how long will you be staying, etc. Plus covid questions like any fever or cough, been near someone who was sick, etc.

[Siwsan]

15. Good to know

I miss my trips over to Canada.

[A HERETIC I AM]

23. Yup. I lived in Detroit all through the 90's and it was easy peasy lemon squeazy

Like you said, show them your DL and you were pretty much good to go.

Windsor had a decent nightlife with some great pubs and clubs (plus Carling Black Label!) and tootling over for a few hours on a Friday or Saturday night was a breeze.

Got more crap from American Customs (Still do, I'm sure, even more so) coming back than the Canadians ever gave ya.

[Siwsan]

26. There used to be some really good Chinese restaurants in Windsor

Maybe there still are.

We'd drive down for lunch and then do some shopping. There was a store that sold a really tasty Spanish Bar cake so we always came home with at least one.

We'd also go to Kingston, to a nice restaurant called 'The Rose and Thistle'. There was always a big bowl of Trifle on display.

[MichMan]

7. One bridge and one tunnel

Pretty much adjacent to each other

[A HERETIC I AM]

24. Actually, 2 tunnels.

It's just the other one is a railway and heavily patrolled! (I bet you know that)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Central_Railway_Tunnel

I met a Canadian guy who walked through it, though.

He said it was scary as hell, and if a train had passed, he wasn't sure if he could have found a spot to get out of the way.

[Srkdqltr]

3. If they had a boat I suppose they could cross over.

But by tunnel or either bridge I doubt they could. Law enforcement officials had all their information. You need a particular driver license for ID also.

[MichMan]

31. Nearly impossible to cross on a personal boat without being stopped & detained by law enforcement.

The Detroit river is nothing like the Rio Grande

[Srkdqltr]

34. Of course. Too cold for it this time of year anyway and the Canadians wouldn't want them either.

[Takket]

4. it isn't easy.....

A river separates Detroit from Canada. So you can't just walk across. The two ways over are the Detroit/Windsor tunnel and the Ambassador Bridge. In theory all the border agents would have been given their names and pictures... it should be impossible to get across for them assuming the have the proper ID/Vax records. But in theory there is no way in hell the police shouldn't have been watching them in case they tried to run and... whelp... we know how that worked out.

Let's just say keeping them out of Canada required some pretty basic common sense displays of competence from the police, and my faith that they would have taken those steps is shaken at the moment.

[LisaM]

20. It's a huge river, too.

It's 1250 feet across, so you can't just row over or anything, especially in December.

[gab13by13]

10. Going to Canada would be dumb,

Yeah, I agree, maybe they wanted to go to Canada. Being Trump lovers I doubt they were vaccinated. Guessing they are anti-government I doubt they had passports.

[Ace Rothstein]

12. Even if these geniuses made it to Canada, they wouldn't have lasted long on $4k.

[MichMan]

32. Well it is USD

Equal to $5100 CDN dollars

[roamer65]

16. The border is very tight now.

Even if they did make it over, Canada would have extradited them immediately when found.

Canada usually only hesitates when the fugitive is from a death penalty state and the crime could receive that punishment.

Northern Mexico wasn’t really an option either with the drug cartel violence down there.

[hunter]

17. If they were strong swimmers and wore wet suits...

... they still wouldn't have found any refuge in Canada.

I'm pretty sure they'd enjoyed some high times in Detroit and thought they could hide out there.

[LisaM]

21. A quarter mile in choppy water?

Unlikely.

[hunter]

27. Jack LaLanne used to swim the Golden Gate, or from Alcatraz to Fisherman's Wharf.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_LaLanne

That's some rough water.

My sister used to compete in Iron Man triathlons -- running, bicycling, and swimming absurd distances. I'm sure she could do it.

I've been to Detroit.

Like I said, a strong swimmer...

I was being sarcastic. I don't imagine this couple doing that.

[Irish_Dem]

28. Detroit lake water temp is 42 degrees today.

Person without a wet suit will lose consciousness in 30 to 60 minutes.
Death in 1-3 hours.

Wetsuit would buy them time for sure.
They would have been smarter to steal a boat than get in the water.

The Great Lakes are known for sudden changeable conditions.

[Johnny2X2X]

18. Impossible if they tried to cross at the bridge or tunnel

And the water is patrolled very well too. It’s a river that’s several hundred yards across there. If you’re fishing and your boat wanders across into Canadian waters you will be met quickly with a border patrol boat.

They watch that water closely. Kayaks might get it done at night. But then when you’re over there it’s not like you’re still not going to be pursued.

[Fiendish Thingy]

19. No entrance Without a negative COVID test and proof of vaccination. Nt

[BlackSkimmer]

22. I doubt they had any plan at all.

Probably wanted one last bender before arrest.

[Grasswire2]

25. international airport there

But I don't think $4,000 would be enough to hire a flight out by a private plane

[Irish_Dem]

29. The only real chance they had was to get assistance from gun groups.

People who could provide safe houses, transportation, money, private plans, disguises.
Smuggle them to Canada or Mexico. Then to somewhere with no extradition treaty.

This couple simply did not have the intellectual or financial resources to pull off a long term flight from justice.

[MichMan]

30. Most people don't know that Windsor is actually south of Detroit

[llmart]

33. Once a summer I'd drive to Marine City and catch the ferry to Sombra.

I would just walk to the customs shanty, show them my passport and a friend and I would walk onto the ferry, take the 5-10 minute ride across the St. Clair River and be in Sombra for lunch and browsing some little shops.

[Srkdqltr]

35. Not being picky but it's Sarnia, Ontario.

[llmart]

36. No, it isn't

I know where Sarnia is. We went to Sombra. It's the first little town when you get off the ferry from Marine City.

[Srkdqltr]

37. Ok sorry. I stand corrected.