Some Ethan Crumbley murder case questions.

[Progressive Jones]

When a teacher reported the notes and drawing that caused the school to bring in his parents for a meeting, why weren't the police called, even before the parents were called?
Why weren't the police already there when the parents arrived?
Why were the parents given the option to let him stay at school that day?

[rsdsharp]

1. Drawing a picture and looking at ammunition on the internet are concerning.

They aren’t illegal.

[Texasgal]

16. There should be ZERO

Tolerance in schools!

[underpants]

2. Police don't go to schools for this type thing

The administrators and the school cops are in charge of that.
It’s the parents choice first in a lot of cases.

[Progressive Jones]

18. I think that under these circumstances, it was a failure not to bring in the police. nt

[elleng]

3. Serious mistakes by several 'adult' groups. He did write: Help me, or somesuch, right?

[femmedem]

11. Yes, he did write help me.

"The thoughts won't stop. Help me."

[elleng]

12. WRENCHING, any adult who ignored such should be FIRED.

[Arazi]

21. Sounds like early onset schizophrenia. My first thought when I heard that plea

[taxi]

4. How not to be caught

may be how they live their everyday lives. Seizing the opportunity to most immediately escape the school, to not get caught, their getaway. They found an out and took it. The school didn't catch them this time either.

[Progressive Jones]

23. Well, as they used to say it back inna day...

"They have a checkered past, and are well known to the authorities."

[Sneederbunk]

5. Why wasn't his backpack searched?

[70sEraVet]

6. In the school's defense, I don't know that they could have done much else.

I haven't heard that the kid made any verbal threats to anybody in the school. I believe that there has to be a 'credible threat' to remove a kid from school against the parents' wishes.

[SheltieLover]

7. Why wasn't the kid IVCd for a full psych eval?

I've read there were 2 police officers in the building... why didn't they search his backpack & pockets?

While this sociopath would be very likely have violently erupted at some future point, had this been handled ethically & responsibly, given what the teachers saw, the tragedy that day could easily have been avoided imo.

Why this kid wasn't searched, isolated with a crisis response team & prohibited from setting foot on school grounds again without a full psych eval is beyond me.

I had a client whose teach caught graphic images & a "hit list" some yrs ago. Guess who got an immediate ride with lights to a psych ward for eval? This was an elementady grade student.

My initial (silent) response was holy fucking shit! Not on my watch you won't! How anyone entrusted with kids could react so casually is beyond my comprehension & is so far outside the bounds of ethical, I don't even know what to call it.

[Texasgal]

8. I'm wondering why they

let him go back to class? They should have sent him home and not let him back without the therapy they discussed.

[happybird]

10. +1

[joshcryer]

14. I'm thinking he walked out of that meeting with the parents...

...and the parents just said "go to class, we'll pick you up later, don't worry about what those people said, be more careful." The school didn't know or were unaware of this (big school, kid splits off, no one is watching him, etc).

Remember, the mom got contacted about the kid searching for ammo online, and told him to be more careful and not get caught. From her perspective her kid was good for looking up ammo online for his gun. Proud of him even. This was a gun nutter family completely deluded about their kids psychopathic writings and comments.

That being said, they should have searched his backpack, think it's standard procedure in any case like this.

[Bettie]

9. Yeah, I wonder that too

Remember a few weeks ago (months?) a little girl was arrested for drawing a mean picture of a kid who was bullying her?

Oh, wait, little Black girl, white teenager...of course.

[regnaD kciN]

13. But why take the gun from him...?

After all, he might have needed it to protect the school from an Antifa mob! Purely in self-defense, of course…

[Cha]

15. Sounds like that should have

been the correct plan for all concerned.

[mopinko]

17. cuz he's a white kid.

i'm just guessing that this school has more counselors than cops. unlike the schools where i live.

[Crepuscular]

19. ...

The police didn't even need to be called, there was a school resource officer embedded at the school (Sheriffs deputy), all the administrators needed to do was include him in the meeting with the parents and there likely would have been a very different outcome. Major screwup on the part of the school.

[Progressive Jones]

20. That's what I'm talking about. No cop at that meeting abject failure. nt

[Ohio Joe]

22. oh YAY!!!! We are blaming the school!!!!

Sheesh...