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MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
5. Reread Trump's statement.
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 12:13 PM
Dec 2021

His use of a double negative makes the meaning opposite of what he was trying to say.

Celerity

(43,096 posts)
7. of course it does, that is why I posted it with the title the way I did, smdh
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 12:31 PM
Dec 2021

now look at what the poster I replied to said

and you will see why I asked them what I did

they said

I guess I am stupid!!!!!


now apply that to Trump's cocked up statement

IF the poster is saying they themselves are stupid, then that means they do NOT believe that there was NOT fraud

in other words they believe there WAS fraud (removing the double negative)

Celerity

(43,096 posts)
12. Trump double negative: Twitter sees proof positive of no electoral fraud
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 03:19 PM
Dec 2021
Critics pounce on statement that ‘anybody that doesn’t think there wasn’t’ fraud in 2020 ‘is either very stupid or very corrupt’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/05/trump-double-negative-twitter-electoral-fraud

The double negative, a common grammatical elephant trap, claimed a high-profile victim on Saturday night. Donald Trump. In a statement, the former president said: “Anybody that doesn’t think there wasn’t massive election fraud in the 2020 presidential election is either very stupid, or very corrupt!”

There was no massive election fraud in the 2020 presidential election, which Trump lost to Joe Biden by 306-232 in the electoral college and by more than 7m ballots in the popular vote. But Trump thinks, or at least says, that there was massive election fraud. Though his own formula would therefore make him “very stupid, or very corrupt”, his claims have had deadly effect, stoking the attack on the US Capitol on 6 January.

That led to Trump’s expulsion from social media, which is why he now communicates by statement, nominally a means of communication less open to spontaneous error. As it happens, Trump has some sort of form with double negatives and the dangers they pose. In July 2018, in Helsinki, he famously stood next to Vladimir Putin of Russia and said “I don’t see any reason why it would be” Russia, which interfered in the 2016 US election.

Under fire for that remark, Trump said: “The sentence should have been: ‘I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t’ or ‘why it wouldn’t be Russia’. Sort of a double negative.” Mockery was delighted and swift. So it was again on Saturday night, on Twitter, perhaps the lost platform most costly to Trump.

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