Morning Joe Scarborough states GOP radicalization is backlash to Obama presidency

[Joinfortmill]

https://www.rawstory.com/white-backlash-against-obama/
Here's the video:

[Wounded Bear]

1. That certainly accelerated it...nt

[Volaris]

2. Took him long enough lol...

The rest of us have known this since the Tea Party.

[mopinko]

3. yup

[lapfog_1]

6. Two things

Yes... Obama brought out the racism that was always there but way more hidden

and

Since Ronny Raygun, the GQPers have felt like they OWN the Presidency. Not a single Democrat that has either run for President or won the Presidency (Clinton, Obama, Biden) has been recognized as legitimate or even "American" by the GQP.

[Demsrule86]

20. Exactly right...been going on for years.

[Baitball Blogger]

14. +1

[brewens]

4. No. It's really a backlash against a black man being elected President. It wouldn't have mattered

who it was. In fact that was part of the reason for the obstruction. Obama was pretty good and could have been more popular. He was about as moderate of a Democrat as they were ever going to see in office. But the next one might not be so nice. That's what they were afraid of. A black man could not be seen to be successful as President, and they could not be seen taking any direction from him.

[Blue_Adept]

10. That's what he says in the video.

[Buckeyeblue]

28. Yes. Obama was far from radical

I used to ask the anti-Obama crowd what their issue with him was. What was their main policy beef. They tried the Obama Care bullshit. So I would ask them what specifically about the Affordable Care Act did they not like. They were hard pressed to come up with a specific answer.

The big problem that white people had with Obama was that he was smarter, classier and way cooler than they were.

And sometimes when I'm feeling it, someone will say something about Obama and I'll remind them that he is living a far better life than they are. I sometimes tell them that about Hillary as well.

[SheltieLover]

30. Gawd forbid, a woooooman might be next!

Terrifying for qpukes.

[Demsrule86]

5. Oh bullshit. This has been going on for years...they went after Clinton with a vengence.

This is why I don't watch MSNBC...used to watch Joe every morning. The fact is that the GOP thinks only they have the right to govern period.

[Celerity]

7. Bullshit? Scarborough finally admits to a major truth. Racism drives and animates

large parts of the Rethugs and tens of millions of whites cannot get over the fact a black American was elected President, TWICE.

I truly fail to see why you call that admission by him 'bullshit'.

[Demsrule86]

26. I have no doubt about how racist the GOP and their crazy followers are...however, this has been

going on for years. They refuse to accept that Democrats have the right to govern if they win elections. They came after Clinton with a vengeance-the intention was to impeach and convict or force Clinton to resign...they attacked Pres. Obama and refused to work with him even when he dangled SS reforms-policies they had fought wanted for decades...like chained CPI.

They threatened to do the same to Hillary if she had won and are now attacking Biden fervently. Racism is a byproduct of the decades they refused to recognize our right to govern if and when we win elections... Racism it is not the reason for their behavior. They crave absolute power and have and will continue to come after any Democratic president.

[Elessar Zappa]

8. They got way worse during the Obama years.

Obama committed the sin of presidenting while black.

[Demsrule86]

19. Sure they did...there were more of them. But they tried their best to destroy Clinton.

Look at how Biden is being treated and before that how they threatened to treat Hillary...they don't believe any Democrat has the right to govern...their entire outlook is political. The GOP doesn't give a damn about America or the people...just power and it has been going on since Clinton...this crazy immoral base has allowed them to be more open about their intentions, but it is the same bullshit.

[chowder66]

22. A black president freaked out the white powerful and elected; hence the absolute desecration of

many of the government norms. They will never stop now unless we do something about it.

[Demsrule86]

31. Nope, as I said before this has been going on since Clinton...no doubt they hate President Obama

but they hate all Democrats and refuse to allow them to govern if they can...they used President Obama's race to rile up their base no doubt about that.

[kwolf68]

27. Totally agree with you

While the racism is true I don't believe that is at all the whole reason, it's the religion of right wing Conservatism. They basically called Bill Clinton a draft dodging communist while running and continued those attacks during his time in office.

John Kerry? Didn't even win and they slandered him to hell and back.

Racism is a real issue, but when we treat it as the ONLY (or even main) reason Republicans are on attack we fail to confront the real hatred at the point of attack and that is "Non Conservatism", I won't even say Liberals, because they despise moderates as well. Minorities have generally been more Liberal, thus it's guilt by association.

The hatred for "Liberal" is strong with the far right and anyone NOT like them is a de facto Liberal.

[Demsrule86]

32. Exactly.

[Progressive Jones]

37. I would love to run into the asshole(s) who coined the word "Libtard" in a dark alley. nt

[uponit7771]

9. I didn't see GQP going after democracy under Clinton as much as they are now after Obama. Clinton

... might have drove them nuts but a black guy as president drove them over the edge.

[Demsrule86]

16. Really? They had a special prosecutor who started with White Water and ended with Monica...

They shut down the government numerous times...the idea was to either impeach and convict Clinton or force him to resign. It was exactly the same.

[uponit7771]

18. That's going after Clinton not voter denial and nullification after attacking the capital building t

... to stop the counting of electoral votes.

Post Obama they're open Nazi and going hard at it

[BradAllison]

25. They were more subtle then

Ken Starr, Whitewater, The Blowjob impeachment. Congressional nuts like Robert Dornan were still a exhibition, not a main eventer.

Now you have a party whipped into full froth by fucking morons like MTG and Gosar and of course Orange Hemorrhoid. No need to tap the brakes.

[Demsrule86]

33. They wanted to get Clinton office with their endless 'investigations'. I consider that their first

attempt to 'go after Democracy'. President Clinton was duly elected after all.

[uponit7771]

36. Correct but they weren't bragging about taking away voter resources on live TV so no other

... democrat will win either.

They went hard after Clinton, they didn't go hard after democracy

[DeeNice]

12. True they were going after the Clintons for decades but

when Obama burst onto the scene they had a whole new crowd to fire up, and fire up they did. We know why.

[Demsrule86]

15. It was no different...the GOP decided that we do not have the right to govern...and I have no

doubt that Obama maddened the racist base of the GOP, but the GOP was going after any president...they had already announced how Hillary would get no judges...yada yada.

[H2O Man]

23. The republicans in Congress

did try to damage President Clinton, as well as the First Lady. And they had the support of their machine. Yet with President Obama, there was a new, extremely dangerous level of hatred -- rooted largely in racism -- that arose in segments of white America. It was known as the tea party. Republican operatives believed they could capitalize on the tea party, milking them for votes. Thus, the republican party adopted the tea party. What they did not recognize is that the tea party had siblings that shared their nest -- militia and KKK-types -- that were less interested in supporting the republican party than re-making it in their own image. And that is exactly where we are today.

[Demsrule86]

34. I don't see much difference in how they behaved toward Clinton.

They impeached Clinton...they could have impeached Obama after we lost the house but they didn't. It is all the same ...no matter who is elected on ourside, the right will attempt to destroy them using whatever means they can find...sex with Clinton and racism with Obama.

[H2O Man]

38. Again, the republicans

in Congress act about the same, but the level of hatred in the country has increased significantly.

[JustAnotherGen]

11. He's not wrong

This has happened before.

The GOP has had the white working class snookered into believing that the middle class and higher's interests are in their best interest. It's why the AFL CIO didn't have riders regarding discrimination decades ago.

People forget that in 1964 - the CRA/VRA were really dangerous concepts/things to do get done. They forget MLK was hated by a large number of people in this country when he died. Shit - Tulsa was an infliction against black folks doing better than white folks.

The Obama Admin triggered a lot of white folks - to include Donald who is an avowed racist in conduct. That rich, successful black man 'stepped on him' so he had to go into an incandescent rage.


Let's not gild the lily - this move to American Fascism is to stem the tide of success of non white folks.

I've always said - you could have a socialized health care system on par with Europe's countries who lead in this and get every white working class Republican onboard . . .

As long as it was a set aside for white people. They are fine with taxing me - a black woman - with a bill of 70K last year - as long as it is taking bread off my table and 'paying them off' and thanking them for being pieces of shit racists.

[bluesbassman]

24. Very well said.

It’s only “entitlement” when non-whites are getting the benefit, even if whites generally get more of the “entitlement” pie than any other group.

[Jilly_in_VA]

13. Of course it is.

It brought all the racists right out of their closets. Too easy, Joe. Try harder.

[Beastly Boy]

17. No shit. But it continues to be a shocking surprise to many who have found

their lives in a racist society too comfortable to re-examine, even in the face of the country's changing demographics.

As the article suggests, there were many Americans who were so shocked by the Presidency being won and successfully held for eight years by a black man (and they could only relate to Obama in terms of the color of his skin), that they found it preferable to literally deny reality than to adjust to it. It was an existential shock to their entire understanding of the society they live in and their role in it. No wonder so many went off the deep end.

[Midnight Writer]

21. I have never heard the n-word used more than when I went to work the day after Obama's election.

People I have never heard say anything racist, or even political, were just going mental.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

29. If it's meant in the context of Obama being black, then I largely agree, BUT ...

If it's meant more in teh context of Obama being some radically liberal guy, then I have to mostly disagree.

Cause he was NOT that.

And I really don't think we should ignore Trump's effect on radicalizing so many of these people. It's WAY worse now than it was in 2016.

[moondust]

35. Duh.

Remember the Tea Party?



Remember birtherism and what became of the Birther in Chief?

I believe the "backlash" then continued with the prospect of a woman President. Too much change too fast for the white male supremacists.

[malaise]

39. It's true

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[malaise]

40. It's true

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