Manchin Discussing Rules Changes with Republicans

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Manchin Discussing Rules Changes with Republicans

December 8, 2021 at 1:06 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 21 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2021/12/08/manchin-discussing-rules-changes-with-republicans/

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“Sen. Joe Manchin (WV), a key Democratic holdout on reforming the filibuster, is discussing small changes to Senate rules with Republicans,” The Hill reports.

“Manchin’s discussions with GOP colleagues — which haven’t been previously reported — come as Democrats are trying to win over their conservative colleague on their push to ‘restore the Senate,’ including making changes to the 60-vote legislative filibuster.”

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[TomDaisy]

1. forum rules prevent my comment

[Faux pas]

2. ...

Me too.

[jalan48]

4. We're in the incipient stages of Fascism here in the US and we can't ctitisize one of our own

members who is working with the Fascists? I'd say we're toast.

[NewHendoLib]

6. Let me. "fuck Joe Manchin"

Worth a hide to get that off my chest

[jcgoldie]

9. seconded

[ColinC]

15. Thirded

[11 Bravo]

22. Ill roll the dice. Fuck him.

With a barbed wire dildo.

[ColinC]

3. 🗑️

[LonePirate]

5. Does he ever meet with or discuss changes or legislation with his Democratic peers?

[KPN]

7. Very odd and disturbing. And wasn't it just a day or

two ago that he referred to Democrats as “they”?

[Lunabell]

8. Fuck Manchin.

It's worth a hidden post.

[NewHendoLib]

10. GMTA

[berni_mccoy]

11. Who will the rule changes favor? that's the real question...

[justhanginon]

12. Question??????????

[spanone]

14. Well, he's not discussing them with Chuck Schumer.

[FakeNoose]

13. Does Manchin have the authority to speak for the Democratic Party?

Asking for a friend

[Deminpenn]

16. Manchin is part of Schumer's leadership team

along with Warner, Warren and Sanders. I expect these discussions have Schumer and the rest of the leadership team's support.

[leftstreet]

17. Okay. Sounds like he has Schumer's full support then n/t

[Deminpenn]

19. That is my guess, yes

nt

[Celerity]

21. Manchin's talks were a separate effort ..........not dispatched to go talk with Republicans

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/584916-manchin-quietly-discusses-senate-rules-changes-with-republicans

The discussions involving Manchin and GOP senators come as a group of Democratic senators, tapped by Schumer, are trying to come up with rules change proposals that would help break the stalemate on voting rights and elections legislation, which has been filibustered by Republicans.

Two Democratic senators taking part in the Democratic-only discussions — Sens. Tim Kaine (Va.) and Jon Tester (Mont.) — indicated that Manchin’s talks were a separate effort and said that they had not dispatched him to go talk with Republicans.

“You know, Joe will be Joe. … We don’t control anybody around here,” Tester said.

Thune floated that Manchin’s talks could be a back channel effort to dial down pressure on Democrats to make changes to the filibuster.

“I think part of maybe his motivation too is just to take the pressure off of that and if we could get some things done that would make it more conducive to accomplishment then he wouldn’t feel, and others wouldn't feel, as much pressure to nuke the filibuster,” Thune said.

[sakabatou]

18. Lemme guess, he's gonna screw over Democrats again?

[Celerity]

20. Manchin says he hasn't changed his mind on the filibuster, where he's opposed to nixing the 60-vote

threshold altogether or making a carveout.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/584916-manchin-quietly-discusses-senate-rules-changes-with-republicans


if no carveout we are FUCKED

[Celerity]

24. No, you can do a change with a simple majority

that is how the last two mini nuke carveouts happened