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iemanja

(57,771 posts)
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:14 PM Dec 2021

Omicron may require fourth vaccine dose sooner than expected, Pfizer says

The new omicron variant could increase the likelihood that people will need a fourth coronavirus vaccine dose earlier than expected, executives at pharmaceutical giant Pfizer said Wednesday. Boosters are likely to help control the variant, according to the company, which said early lab experiments suggest that the standard two-dose regimen still provides some protection against severe illness from the variant.

Albert Bourla, Pfizer’s chief executive, had projected that a fourth dose might be needed 12 months after a third shot. But he said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that the timeline might need to be moved up. One of the company’s top scientists recently said a fourth shot — possibly one targeting omicron — is likely to be necessary.

More than 40 people in the United States have tested positive for the omicron variant, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told the Associated Press on Wednesday. Nearly all of them showed mild symptoms, she said. Elsewhere, the World Health Organization said Wednesday that omicron cases have been reported in 57 countries so far.


That's the entire story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/09/covid-omicron-variant-live-updates/

Looks like we may be getting COVID boosters on a regular basis, even more than once a year.
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Omicron may require fourth vaccine dose sooner than expected, Pfizer says (Original Post) iemanja Dec 2021 OP
LOL! SoCalDavidS Dec 2021 #1
Do you get flu shots? iemanja Dec 2021 #3
I'm Not Talking About Myself SoCalDavidS Dec 2021 #5
I wish I could disagree. iemanja Dec 2021 #7
Will the new covid variant circulating, LisaL Dec 2021 #14
Agree, but the antivirals could be a game changer radius777 Dec 2021 #44
The ones that have to be taken early in the course of the disease Mariana Dec 2021 #46
Same here iemanja Dec 2021 #50
100 million Covidiots Celerity Dec 2021 #19
The spoiler alert shirt... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #38
Anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers should be required to sign radius777 Dec 2021 #42
Yes, sadly true. Nothing will change unless the virus starts killing a much higher frequency of LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #27
One a year, not 4 in 16 months. With most of world shy of even 2 doses. Which is why Omicron exists. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #8
12+ year olds are *already* at 70.1% full vaccination, and it continues to rise (albeit slowly). Pobeka Dec 2021 #10
Those who won't vaccinate will get their immunity the natural way-through infection. LisaL Dec 2021 #15
I have only seen reports that natural immunity is not as effective or long lasting as a vaccine. Pobeka Dec 2021 #16
Sure looks that way, and I did rather expect something like this. And I support it. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2021 #2
I'm confused. Didn't news just come out this morning from Pfizer oregonjen Dec 2021 #4
Yes iemanja Dec 2021 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2021 #9
Welcome Back!! GP6971 Dec 2021 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2021 #12
damn...did I miss a library girl appearance? NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #17
She's back! iemanja Dec 2021 #22
no doubt DU's all star troll (if there was such an award). Odd thing to spend one's time doing NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #26
The real all stars are the ones who survive greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #41
That's my guess. GP6971 Dec 2021 #24
future winner of the Herman Cain award iemanja Dec 2021 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2021 #20
He was murdered iemanja Dec 2021 #21
you get top grades for decades of staying with your insane takes here NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #25
Thank goodness they're gone MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #35
That took a while. iemanja Dec 2021 #36
I noticed that MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #37
I'm surprised - LG usually is super easy to spot and we can get her out of here fast NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #39
I'm considering volunteering for the next round MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #45
You'll be in good company... Rhiannon12866 Dec 2021 #48
Get help MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #28
Post removed Post removed Dec 2021 #30
that's why you're an unhinged troll iemanja Dec 2021 #31
Well, it kind of GP6971 Dec 2021 #32
How did you get out of 5th grade? Elessar Zappa Dec 2021 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2021 #34
I'll take them all. GaYellowDawg Dec 2021 #18
Same with me iemanja Dec 2021 #43
The day after I got my booster shot, 2naSalit Dec 2021 #23
I will get any and all boosters. Raftergirl Dec 2021 #29
Oh for fuck's sake greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #40
Not particularly surprising. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #47
Since I had Moderna, I will be waiting 12 months for the next shot. roamer65 Dec 2021 #49
 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
1. LOL!
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:16 PM
Dec 2021

People have given up on getting vaccinated.

We're probably not going to reach 70% fully vaccinated.

We're probably not going to reach 50% getting a single booster.

Good luck with anything beyond that.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
5. I'm Not Talking About Myself
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:22 PM
Dec 2021

I'm talking about the average American who couldn't give a shit whether this pandemic ever actually ends.

We've more or less reached the point of accepting the 1,000+ daily deaths, much like we've accepted the daily gun violence tallies.

26% have got booster shots. Any chance of reaching anywhere close to herd immunity is long gone.

I bet after all that's happened the last 2 years, and all the disinformation, that the # of people who get a flu shot will drop significantly going forward.

Over 1/3rd of Americans couldn't care less about the health of themselves or others. It's just a fact.

LisaL

(47,467 posts)
14. Will the new covid variant circulating,
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:54 PM
Dec 2021

herd immunity is a pipe dream anyway. Omicron evades vaccine immunity and natural immunity pretty well. Covid appears to be outsmarting our best efforts to beat it.
Anyhow, I can't worry about those who won't vaccinate-nothing I can do about that. I got my booster, if more boosters are deemed to be beneficial, I will get those as well.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
44. Agree, but the antivirals could be a game changer
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 11:03 PM
Dec 2021

that could drastically reduce deaths and thus neuter the virus though it would still be around.

Mariana

(15,629 posts)
46. The ones that have to be taken early in the course of the disease
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 11:33 PM
Dec 2021

probably won't make a huge difference in the death rate in the US. So many of the unvaccinated, when they get sick, either refuse to believe they have Covid at all, or they insist on taking vitamin C or horse paste or whatever for it. They only seek medical attention later when they can't breathe anymore, and by then the damage is done.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
42. Anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers should be required to sign
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:55 PM
Dec 2021

a form stating that should they get sick they relinquish all treatment, and accept their fate.

They should also be liable for anyone they infect.

LymphocyteLover

(9,966 posts)
27. Yes, sadly true. Nothing will change unless the virus starts killing a much higher frequency of
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:27 PM
Dec 2021

people, I suspect.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
8. One a year, not 4 in 16 months. With most of world shy of even 2 doses. Which is why Omicron exists.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:35 PM
Dec 2021

Pobeka

(5,006 posts)
10. 12+ year olds are *already* at 70.1% full vaccination, and it continues to rise (albeit slowly).
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:48 PM
Dec 2021

5+ is catching up fast as the 5-12 year class couldn't get vaccinated until Oct 29. The 5+ total is 64.3% and climbing steadily.

People have *not* given up. It is not completely one or the other -- I was at a small vaccine event yesterday and 12% of those who came were there for the first dose.

Once people are on the vaccine program they tend to stick with it. So we'll eventually get boosted population close to 70% and beyond. It just takes time...

I think as a nation we'll get around 75% by the end of next year. Many republican rural counties will not get over 30%, or even 20%. S

Nonetheless I wish we were at 85% or 90% total vaccinations for the entire USA.

LisaL

(47,467 posts)
15. Those who won't vaccinate will get their immunity the natural way-through infection.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:57 PM
Dec 2021

If covid doesn't kill them, that is, and however long the natural immunity lasts.

Pobeka

(5,006 posts)
16. I have only seen reports that natural immunity is not as effective or long lasting as a vaccine.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:59 PM
Dec 2021

So I guess if you don't get vaxxed you get to play russian roulette over and over and over...

oregonjen

(3,647 posts)
4. I'm confused. Didn't news just come out this morning from Pfizer
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:20 PM
Dec 2021

saying three doses would work against Omicron?

Response to iemanja (Original post)

Response to GP6971 (Reply #11)

NewHendoLib

(61,875 posts)
26. no doubt DU's all star troll (if there was such an award). Odd thing to spend one's time doing
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:24 PM
Dec 2021

GP6971

(38,224 posts)
24. That's my guess.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:22 PM
Dec 2021

I alerted on one of her posts for linking to The Liberty Beacon website. That was a dead giveaway.

iemanja

(57,771 posts)
13. future winner of the Herman Cain award
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 09:51 PM
Dec 2021

Do let us know when the time comes. We'll send thoughts and prayers.

Response to iemanja (Reply #13)

NewHendoLib

(61,875 posts)
25. you get top grades for decades of staying with your insane takes here
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:23 PM
Dec 2021

entertaining, I guess, in a really twisted way. What a nutcase you are!

NewHendoLib

(61,875 posts)
39. I'm surprised - LG usually is super easy to spot and we can get her out of here fast
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:50 PM
Dec 2021

I miss MIRTing - hope to get back on with the next switchover

Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #28)

GP6971

(38,224 posts)
32. Well, it kind of
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:34 PM
Dec 2021

says the same thing about you...How many times have you been banned in the last 30 days?

Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #33)

iemanja

(57,771 posts)
43. Same with me
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 11:00 PM
Dec 2021

A little prick in the arm is nothing compared to COVID. Even the aftereffects are short-lived.

2naSalit

(103,365 posts)
23. The day after I got my booster shot,
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:21 PM
Dec 2021

I was talking to a long time friend about it as we both got our shots in the same months but we far from each other these days. He was wondering if the booster would be effective against omicron, I laughed and said, "I expect I'll be getting another shot in ten weeks."
He agreed that was the most likely scenario.

Raftergirl

(1,861 posts)
29. I will get any and all boosters.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 10:31 PM
Dec 2021

It’s really not a big deal, imo. I find it silly people are getting their panties all in a twist over boosters.

I get a Prolia shot every 6 months for osteopenia, because I don’t want to get osteoporosis. Been getting it for 5 years.

maxsolomon

(38,929 posts)
47. Not particularly surprising.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 11:36 PM
Dec 2021

It will become endemic, and boosters will be needed just like flu shots are needed.

roamer65

(37,965 posts)
49. Since I had Moderna, I will be waiting 12 months for the next shot.
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 11:40 PM
Dec 2021

Unless the booster is Omicron specific.

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