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sheshe2

(97,626 posts)
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:29 PM Dec 2021

The desire to humble black women is so strong in some people 🙄🙄🙄




Good Old Peg just called out our MVP as an uppity woman that should know her place. She should be chastened and humbled. Bite me.

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The desire to humble black women is so strong in some people 🙄🙄🙄 (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2021 OP
OLD Peg should shut her patronizing mouth. LakeArenal Dec 2021 #1
No F'ing way. She is the Vice President of the United States. Biophilic Dec 2021 #2
Good God. Isn't she dead yet? Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #3
Looks it with her brittle dead face. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #16
+1 JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #52
We could only hope! Lonestarblue Dec 2021 #28
JHFC DURHAM D Dec 2021 #4
Miss priveledge is mistaken. MLAA Dec 2021 #5
Good God, Peggy Noonan is still around? Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #6
Just looked her up leftieNanner Dec 2021 #12
Yes, she's a lot younger than I thought. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #19
It's not the years, it's the attitude. colorado_ufo Dec 2021 #29
Typical demand to put an brown woman SallyHemmings Dec 2021 #17
Thought the same here. Is she still alive? paleotn Dec 2021 #45
She says she is, but I've never thought she had much credibility. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #46
Piggy needs to take her own advice jpak Dec 2021 #7
Yup. 2naSalit Dec 2021 #11
Chastened for what? Croney Dec 2021 #8
She's a cow. madaboutharry Dec 2021 #9
Sure thing, Peggy gratuitous Dec 2021 #10
What a crock of horse#$%&! brer cat Dec 2021 #13
Peg has the dead eyes of all republicans. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #23
the RW and the MSM are attempting to knee-cap her for 2024 or 2028 Celerity Dec 2021 #14
Of course they are. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #18
The Chardonnay canaries that have long circled her head GoCubsGo Dec 2021 #15
Admit it, lady, you're just jealous of my Vice President's eyebrows, aren't you? Leghorn21 Dec 2021 #20
Maybe she's auditioning for Andy Rooney's old job? FakeNoose Dec 2021 #21
Who is reanimating Peggington Noonington's near-corpse to comment on such matters? W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #22
She will likely be on Toddie's show on Sunday so she can Bev54 Dec 2021 #32
is he one of those still trotting her out? W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #36
He sure is! Bev54 Dec 2021 #38
Doesn't Peggy have an appointment with her bartender? LoisB Dec 2021 #24
K&r Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #25
The Rich White Bushes' mouthpiece thinks Ms. Harris should be humbled? viva la Dec 2021 #26
Nice analysis. Envy. erronis Dec 2021 #43
I wonder how many cocktails Noonan had before making her catty remarks? dlk Dec 2021 #27
The beginning rollout against VP Harris. We need to keep a running list of the attacks/ to-date. ancianita Dec 2021 #30
For those who'd like to read the context of this extremely nasty hit job, Hortensis Dec 2021 #31
What??! She is Vice President of the United States!!! Rhiannon12866 Dec 2021 #33
Noonan has long had a fixation with Harris. radius777 Dec 2021 #34
Keep clutching those pearls, Peg... MineralMan Dec 2021 #35
I don't recall her calling out Rump tavernier Dec 2021 #37
More chastened and humbled, who TF does she think she is? Methinks she's envious because Harris.... George II Dec 2021 #39
She is just cold and angry. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #40
I just caught a whiff of the 1950s. Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #41
whoa!!!!!!! despicable - but not surprised bluboid Dec 2021 #42
STFU, Noonan! She's the VP. electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #44
WTELF?!!! Duppers Dec 2021 #47
Harris needs to be serious, read books, meet with people who think, not rely on charisma? betsuni Dec 2021 #48
Yes. sheshe2 Dec 2021 #49
I love these! JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #53
Love the pics! (nt) old as dirt Dec 2021 #61
it's not going well for ms peggy mopinko Dec 2021 #50
She has officially H2O Man Dec 2021 #55
best news i've heard in a while. mopinko Dec 2021 #56
I just posted H2O Man Dec 2021 #58
not saying she wasnt always a reptile. mopinko Dec 2021 #59
I'll say it. H2O Man Dec 2021 #60
Noonan can shove off JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #51
Noonan is best known for being a Reagan speech writer - his IMAGE was the opposite of that karynnj Dec 2021 #54
Blow it out your ass, Peggy Noonan. (nt) Paladin Dec 2021 #57

Biophilic

(6,552 posts)
2. No F'ing way. She is the Vice President of the United States.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:34 PM
Dec 2021

She should not be humble let alone chastened. This is simply wrong and sick. This makes me so angry.

sheshe2

(97,626 posts)
16. Looks it with her brittle dead face.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:51 PM
Dec 2021

The contrast with those to pictures. Kamala, so alive and full of hope and Peg's face looks cadaverous with the hate in her soul.

PS. I am not being ageist here, just stating the clear facts.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
52. +1
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 12:43 PM
Dec 2021

Radiance vs Failure. Noonan wishes she could be the VP. She wishes she could have rose to that level.

MLAA

(19,745 posts)
5. Miss priveledge is mistaken.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:41 PM
Dec 2021

the Vice President of our Country is confident, more than capable, intelligent, and accomplished. Absolutely no call for chastened and humbled, VP should be honored and revered.

Next Miss Know Nothing Noonan will call for our VP to be paid 60 cents on the dollar to her white, male predecessors.

Fuck out of touch, scared, jealous Miss Noonan.

Haggard Celine

(17,821 posts)
6. Good God, Peggy Noonan is still around?
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:41 PM
Dec 2021

I thought she was middle-aged back when I was a kid. She must be 100 now! I think it's time for Peggy to humble herself and be chastened and fucking retire already. Do some gardening, old lady!

leftieNanner

(16,159 posts)
12. Just looked her up
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:45 PM
Dec 2021

Born in 1950. She's my generation age-wise, but ten generations back otherwise.

Geez.

Haggard Celine

(17,821 posts)
19. Yes, she's a lot younger than I thought.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:54 PM
Dec 2021

I guess she always dressed very conservatively, so I thought she was older. Her ideas probably made her seem older, too. She was more conservative than my grandma, who was born in 1916. Oh well, guess she can have cocktails with Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the people who refuse to retire. As long as people are paying them, I guess.

Haggard Celine

(17,821 posts)
46. She says she is, but I've never thought she had much credibility.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:16 PM
Dec 2021

I think she actually died when she went out to Colorado and ate that whole marijuana candy bar and started having visions.

brer cat

(27,587 posts)
13. What a crock of horse#$%&!
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:46 PM
Dec 2021

Kamala is in her place and she doesn't need old Peg to tell her anything.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
15. The Chardonnay canaries that have long circled her head
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:48 PM
Dec 2021

are now nesting in her brain. Fuck off, Peggy.

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
20. Admit it, lady, you're just jealous of my Vice President's eyebrows, aren't you?
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:55 PM
Dec 2021
SAD!!

FUCK RIGHT OFF

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
22. Who is reanimating Peggington Noonington's near-corpse to comment on such matters?
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:57 PM
Dec 2021

And how many bottles of wine were involved?

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
36. is he one of those still trotting her out?
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:05 PM
Dec 2021

No wonder I haven't heard from her in awhile then, because Chuck Todd is an automatic channel-changer in this house.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
38. He sure is!
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:07 PM
Dec 2021

Shortly after MSNBC let Joan Walsh go ( I like her) then old Peggy showed up on Todd's show.

viva la

(4,598 posts)
26. The Rich White Bushes' mouthpiece thinks Ms. Harris should be humbled?
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 08:29 PM
Dec 2021

Yeah, we know where that's coming from.

There's a deep subconscious sense of inferiority in rich privileged people. They have a dim recognition that they could never have made it on their own, so seeing someone who didn't start out privileged and has achieved a lot makes them angry, and desirous of belittling them and making them feel undeserving.

That's what I think is going on here-- a rather vicious secret envy and resentment. And when you have power-- can get big media to interview you, say-- it comes out in this haughty way.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
27. I wonder how many cocktails Noonan had before making her catty remarks?
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 08:32 PM
Dec 2021

There’s never a shortage of women-haters.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
30. The beginning rollout against VP Harris. We need to keep a running list of the attacks/ to-date.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 08:47 PM
Dec 2021

This septuagenarian scandalmonger, Reagan's ghost, is a remnant of 400 years of white-on-non-white violence. She just got paid, and the rest of the shit talking lineup will pop up with their noise making 'til election day 2024.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. For those who'd like to read the context of this extremely nasty hit job,
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 08:56 PM
Dec 2021

the column's behind a paywall at WSJ for me, but Mediaite includes clips of her various swings with its commentary.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/peggy-noonan-says-the-good-news-for-dead-kamala-harris-is-that-expectations-are-low-for-her/

Most of the many hits are on Harris as Democrat and female, and I'm guessing historians and teachers will be using it for decades to illustrate attacks on female politicians. Of course, Noonan's blatant appeal to racism alone may have earned this prize an opening-paragraph mention in her eventual obituaries. She so deserves it.

Btw, I just looked and there's no annual Willie Horton award for all those competing for the year's most racist political offerings. Is there a competition under another title? If not, someone might want to start one.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
33. What??! She is Vice President of the United States!!!
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:00 PM
Dec 2021

Why should she be "chastened???" And we need strong leadership right now, not "humble..."

radius777

(3,921 posts)
34. Noonan has long had a fixation with Harris.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:03 PM
Dec 2021

I recall an article during the campaign similar to this, where Noonan took petty swipes at KH's campaigning style and clothing choices.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
37. I don't recall her calling out Rump
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:07 PM
Dec 2021

for not being chastened and humble. But that’s ok because he’s 1. A man 2. White 3. Racist. Those are Peg’s favorite folks.

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. More chastened and humbled, who TF does she think she is? Methinks she's envious because Harris....
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:09 PM
Dec 2021

....is an accomplished woman. Something she's far from.

sheshe2

(97,626 posts)
40. She is just cold and angry.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:12 PM
Dec 2021

Her face and eyes have no life to them. Yep, Peg is jealous.

bluboid

(845 posts)
42. whoa!!!!!!! despicable - but not surprised
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:47 PM
Dec 2021

what planet does Noonan think she's on?
the ultimate narrow minded twink!

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
48. Harris needs to be serious, read books, meet with people who think, not rely on charisma?
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:32 PM
Dec 2021

Reminds me of them accusing President Obama of not being able to give speeches without reading from a teleprompter because evidently he wasn't smart enough to remember anything, and the one who said, "The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last fifteen years or so has been a failure. People sometimes don't see that because there was a charismatic individual named Barack Obama, who won the presidency in 2008 and 2012."

Assholes.

sheshe2

(97,626 posts)
49. Yes.
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:51 PM
Dec 2021
People sometimes don't see that because there was a charismatic individual named Barack Obama, who won the presidency in 2008 and 2012."


The voters knew. I knew he had it, both times. I knew.

The children knew. They loved him, trusted him.









Hill with kids



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Kamala with kids



?

When do you ever see such pictures with republicans? The answer is never.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
53. I love these!
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 12:45 PM
Dec 2021

How different our world would be if the Media had not taken HRC out.

We have a shot with Biden and Harris to get better.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
56. best news i've heard in a while.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 01:23 PM
Dec 2021

but when are we going to realize that as a brain ages, and starts to deteriorate, it becomes more republican? more reptilian? these old farts, which i can say because i am one, get crustier and nastier, and no one does them the kindness of shutting off the cameras.

H2O Man

(79,051 posts)
58. I just posted
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 01:35 PM
Dec 2021

an OP about crime in Binghamton, NY, and compared my response circa 1973 to today.

I've always viewed Peg N. as an obnoxious and toxic person.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
59. not saying she wasnt always a reptile.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:00 PM
Dec 2021

they're just so much more pathetic when they have halfway lost it.

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
54. Noonan is best known for being a Reagan speech writer - his IMAGE was the opposite of that
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 01:17 PM
Dec 2021

She, of all people, knows that appearing optimistic, confident and joyful, is a huge plus in how people perceive a politician. Not to mention, what exactly is Harris supposed to be chastened and humbled by? For not solving issues that actually have not been solved since the Reagan years?

The comparison also should be to Mike Pence? What exactly were his accomplishments in his first year as VP??

Out of curiosity, I tried to find an article from late 2017 of Pence's accomplishments - and failed. I did find this summary done THREE years into his vice presidency. I know nothing of this Indiana source.

Here is the lead paragraph that summarizes what was thought:

In his first three years in office, Pence has struggled at times to find a successful role. From overseeing the ill-fated voter fraud commission (which was unable to find widespread instances of malfeasance at the polls) to failing as an emissary to Capitol Hill, the vice president has mostly fashioned himself as a hype man for Donald Trump, campaigning on his behalf. Pundits have even wondered whether he has outlived his usefulness, speculating that the president may replace Pence with someone like former ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley or even Trump’s own daughter Ivanka. Commentators cycle between calling Pence the shadow president and a useful idiot.


The three areas they credit him with doing anything are staffing the government - including many Hoosiers, he took the lead on rebuilding the space program (at that point deadlocked in Congress), and raising money for 2020. Note the latter is NOT related to helping the country.

Now, think of Pence's predecessors, no one ever questioned the value of Biden, Cheney, Gore, GHWB, or Mondale. The value of Quayle was the only one in that interval seen as poorly as Pence. (Agnew was in a class of his own)

Back to Harris, one year is far to early to evaluate, but I would guess that many of these stories are partisan efforts to frame Harris negatively because she will at some point very likely be the Democratic nominee for President.
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