Help! Looking to clear up misinformation on Covid.

[PA_jen]

Ananti-Vaxxed/Covis-Hoax Relative of mine called me saying the omicron variant is going to kill all you vaccinated people.

Now I will be honest dealing with My SIL who is very ill-non-covid so I haven't been able to keep up. Last I heard people vaccinated can get a mild case and that omicron is in 18 states.

How much am I wrong and what did I miss?

[Goonch]

1. 25 states report Omicron COVID-19; most cases mild

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/25-states-report-omicron-covid-19-most-cases-mild

[PA_jen]

5. Thank you.

[lapfog_1]

2. don't bother arguing with an idiot

it's not worth it

[Tetrachloride]

3. I'd say you are close enough. Do a heavy sigh and say "If there is an issue on this, i will tell

you.”. Then say you need to watch some serious stuff like The Electric Company

[PA_jen]

10. thanks for the laugh. But I get your point.

[ret5hd]

4. Ask if she's willing to bet her house on that...

and take the bet if she says yes.

[relayerbob]

6. Pfizer booster gives 25x improvement in antibodies

Against omicron

[PA_jen]

9. Hubby and I got that booster.

[relayerbob]

14. Got mine this afternoon

[Tomconroy]

7. You might look at Dr. Jha's Twitter feed for accurate info about Omicron. He's a professor of

Public Health at Brown University. Those who have had boosters will be fine.

[PA_jen]

8. Thanks

[CJW]

11. Vaccines

Back in the 1960s, my Junior High teacher taught what vaccines were and basically how they worked.

It sometimes seems that I was one of the very few who did learn that, since many posters on various forums don't seem to have learned this and instead come up with imaginings instead.

[Pobeka]

12. Of course vaccinated people can get it. So can unvaccinated people.

Difference is this: In early studies where they use blood from vaccinated people and test it with omicron, they see how much of the virus is neutralized by the blood. The level of neutralization is much lower for Omicron, but still there is some neutralization, which means your immune system to a degree is able to see Omicron and recognize it a little bit.

If you are unvaxxed, you have NO recognition of Omicron, so there is a lag time while the virus is replicating (like crazy) in your body before your immune system can recognize a completely new threat and mount a defense.

Get vaxxed, and your chances for mild symptoms are much better even with Omicron.

[PA_jen]

16. I know. I understand and believe in Vaccines I just trying to understand her crazy rant

and to get up to date on correct info.

[Pobeka]

20. What I was trying to point out (for you to talk about) is which risk pool do you want to be in?

There is always some risk.

People who are vaxxed are lower risk for severe outcomes (based on some early evidence we now have).

And the risk of vaccine side effect is so incredibly small it doesn't change the risk calculation at all.

If you don't go straight to the risk analysis, then you will be faced with the "well, I read about a person who was vaxxed and died, and another who was unvaxxed and survived" type of silly logic.

Good luck with your conversations!

[WarGamer]

13. No evidence that Omicron has killed anyone.

But Delta is still the dominant strain so be careful.

And yes, being immunized doesn't seem to be much of a roadblock for getting infected with Omicron.

[PA_jen]

17. Thanks.

[Quixote1818]

15. So far it's infecting mostly vaccinated people in the US. Only because most people are vaccinated

and the vaccines don't protect that well against it. But all cases are mild so far, probably because most people are vaccinated. If 70% of the population was unvaccinated instead of vaccinated, then it would be hitting mostly unvaccinated people. No evidence it's going to kill anyone yet but chances are that unvaccinated people are going to have most issues with it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/most-reported-us-omicron-cases-have-hit-fully-vaccinated-cdc-2021-12-10/

[PA_jen]

18. Thanks

[Septua]

19. ..and SIL got that information from (wait for it)...

..Tucker Carlson. Or Facebook.

[GP6971]

22. So are you anti-vax? n/t

[GP6971]

24. Thanks.

I couldn't tell from your first post. Hoss?? You must have me confused with someone else, but I can guess who you are.

Welcome to DU.

[NewHendoLib]

25. I wish you would just stop this bullshit and quit DU. Enough is enough.

[Whiskeytide]

26. So an elderly woman - one who may well ...

… have immune system issues which you would know nothing about - protects herself from a stranger who is in her vicinity and is maskless, and you think it’s ok for YOU to be offended?

That’s looking for something at which to be outraged. You’re new here. You may get some slack because of that. But you need to read the TOS and perhaps read posts for a little while before making off-topic, knee-jerk responses. Otherwise you’re not likely to be here very long.

[NewHendoLib]

27. it's just library girl, sad chronic troll who has nothing better to do but stir up shit here

[Whiskeytide]

28. I'm not familiar with LG, but I believe you. So she's not new, just posting under ...

… a new name to get around the tombstone? Figures. Should have known that from the new name.

[NewHendoLib]

29. she's been here hundreds of times using different names for at least 15 years

[GP6971]

31. Probably over a thousand times

and unfortunately still counting.

[Ms. Toad]

34. Better her than death threat guy . . . n/t

[GP6971]

35. Definitely!!

I wonder if he is out of prison yet.

[Ms. Toad]

38. I did a quick search -

I had to review old DU mail to remind me of his nickname. I got one (or more) of his special threats so I had some DU Mail correspondence around.

Gues you have to threaten the right kind of people to have internet threats taken seriously. Back in the day, typing in a few of his more vile threats turned up a dozen or so websites he was similarly threatening.

[Whiskeytide]

32. Really? That is a dedicated troll who must surely be very sad and miserable IRL. n/t.

[GP6971]

33. She's gone.

MIRT banned her.

[XRubicon]

36. wow, you are awesome.