The incel threat

[Celerity]

During the pandemic, the male supremacist movement has grown and radicalised. Now it's moving from chat groups offline — and becomes more violent

https://www.ips-journal.eu/topics/democracy-and-society/the-incel-threat-5571/




In 2017, about six women were killed intentionally by people they knew — every hour. Of the 87,000 women killed that year, fewer than half were killed by strangers. Femicide takes different forms, and different concepts are used around the world. But while the differences between ‘femicide’ and ‘feminicidio’, for example, are not merely linguistic but also cultural, there is some agreement on significant key elements. Generally, femicide refers to ‘the killing of women and girls because they are females, i.e. because of their gender’. These killings result from unequal power structures rooted in ‘traditional’ gender roles, customs, and mindsets. And they are the tip of the iceberg in terms of gender-based violence against women and girls.

Given this dire state of affairs, it is painful to consider that some men are trying to justify their hate and violence against women. Shortly after a 22-year-old gunman murdered five people on the streets of Plymouth in the UK, news reports emerged linking him to the obscure, largely-online ‘incel’ movement. ‘Women are arrogant and entitled beyond belief’, the killer had posted on social media shortly before the attack, describing himself as ‘bitter and jealous’ and seemingly confirming his allegiance to the movement.

What are incels?

The incel ideology is based on the concept of involuntary celibacy — the idea that certain physical, biological, social, and mental characteristics prevent men from having access to some kind of sexual marketplace. That marketplace, they claim, is dominated by so-called ‘Chads’ and ‘Stacys’, who exclude incels from participating. The result is an embittered community of male forum-dwellers who perceive themselves as social outcasts and turn their ire primarily against women, but also men and romantic couples. Unlike most acts of femicide, many incels do not attack women they know — in line with broader terrorist targeting preferences, the victims are typically randomly selected.

On the complex domestic extremism and terrorism stage, incels occupy a curious space. They do not appear to pose the same threat as white supremacists or Salafi-jihadists, yet they inflame fear and intense discussion. And their often-bizarre creed transcends assumed ideological boundaries. A far-right extremist who attacked a synagogue and kebab shop in Germany, for instance, repeated several tropes common in incel chatrooms. But regardless of how we understand them ideologically, violent elements of the movement retain a threat of terrorism against Western communities.

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[JacquesL894]

1. Thanks

Thanks for the information.

[marble falls]

8. I can't wait to see what you do with it! Good luck!

[NewHendoLib]

13. .

[marble falls]

15. Can't help myself.

[Buns_of_Fire]

2. And the only people who can tolerate them are other incels...

Incels are radicalised online, and they talk incessantly about a lack of friends and romantic prospects, about spending day after day at home alone, and about trouble in school or finding work. Misogyny, and sexual frustration, is certainly a key part of the movement and the ideology. But we must also recognise that incel ideology is self-reinforcing. And those feelings, emotions, and conditions that lead incels into radicalisation have only intensified during the pandemic. Already, most acts of incel violence have been murder-suicides — like in Plymouth, violent incels primarily aim to end their own lives, while maximising the number they take with them.

The more they act like assholes, the less that normal people want anything to do with them. The current crop of pseudo-masculine stereotypes (Trump the Uber-Mensch, Plump Boys, Oath Keepers, et. al.) isn't helping matters any.

I'd love to see a Venn diagram on this. I suspect they nearly overlap.

[Delphinus]

3. Oh my ...

Important to know.

[Ford_Prefect]

4. And we can thank the lords of social media for amplifying this permutation as well...

[634-5789]

5. Whiny little assholes. Poor, poor, pitiful me.

They don't want to be a part of regular society, so let them whine and bitch about how badly they have it. Nobody gives a damn except the other whiny little bitches.

[2naSalit]

10. Not only that...

They are claiming to be the victims who need to make a splash to be noticed and the reason is incel.

What strikes me is that you don't see mass murders perpetrated by females. I can't think of any offhand, there might be one or two assisting but it's generally males. And nobody seems to think about all the females who don't match up to some image in the general media end up alone because they aren't pretty enough to be interested in romantically. Seriously, there's a standard which requires certain features a woman must possess in order to attract a male in this society but you don't hear much about that unless someone slips and says something that blatantly expresses this truth.

Fuck their victimhood, they need to grow the fuck up.

[Throck]

6. I wonder if this is the issue with some catholic priest?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Yet another psycho-social sickness. Perhaps it should be treated as an illness. . . nt

[2naSalit]

11. I think the main sickness is...

The constant insistence that everything that is good is sexy and that you have to have a sexual relationship in order to be normal.

[treestar]

16. It's all men too

There are women who are excluded from the sexual marketplace and they don't get violent over it and no one would sympathize with them at all - the incels seem to expect sympathy, like it is unjust that women don't find them attractive. But if women aren't attractive, no one considers that unjust - it's too bad or her own fault.

[2naSalit]

18. Exactly.

[markbark]

9. I question the use of the word "involuntary"

Maybe, just maybe if these oh so special individuals weren't such thundering assholes, women would actually tolerate their presence for more than a few milliseconds?

.....but that would require self awareness and introspection so I'm not holding my breath.

[Wounded Bear]

14. Good point, of course...nt

[treestar]

17. Yes, they need to be less shallow people

and think of women not as objects the way they do. If they spent five minutes getting to know any individual woman, they might get a clue it is more complex than they think, and therefore more malleable a system for them than they think it is.

[Initech]

20. More like "no woman is impressed by some douche who works at a fast food drive thru."

And lives in his mom's basement while spending all day chain smoking and shit posting on Facebook.

[MAJones]

12. Enough

This is as far as we go. It is past time for women to take over. Men as a group are as good as they are ever gonna get. Allowing them to continue running things is foolhardy. Unfortunately, we have husbands, brothers and sons and a strong sense of fairness which cripples us as the warriors we need to be to take over. Men despise us. They always have and always will and will destroy the world in their pursuit of power and control over us and each other. They are consumed with fear and hatred. This was never gonna end well.

[2naSalit]

19. +1

[Initech]

21. Guess Erdogan wasn't wrong when he said that social media is a threat to civilization.