F Brian Williams

[oldtime dfl_er]

So maybe you heard Brian Williams's signoff the other day, but if you didn't, then it's posted below. But I say fuck you Brian Williams because the ambiguity of his statement has allowed both sides to claim he was speaking of them, or was condemning the "other side" with a stark and scary warning. Honestly, Brian, this is no time for subtlety. Trumpy members of my own family have taken his words to mean the Biden administration is trying to burn things down from the inside. I am so pissed.

[Ocelot II]

1. There was nothing subtle about it and BW has always been as clear as gin wrt

where he stands on Trump and the general state of things. I don't know how anyone could interpret his comments as ambiguous in the slightest - just because he didn't scream and use swear words?

[oldtime dfl_er]

8. and yet

I am not lying when I say that members of my family have taken his words to be a warning against the current administration. So it's fine for you to say that you didn't misinterpret his comments, but you probably haven't been living in the twisted world of QAnon for the last five years. All I'm saying is NO MORE AMBIGUITY.

[PTWB]

11. His statement wasn't ambiguous.

Crazy people are going to hear what they want to hear.

[oldtime dfl_er]

12. It was ambiguous

he didn't name names or point fingers. Now some may say that shows professionalism, class or elegance. But this is not the time for even the slightest ambiguity.

[PTWB]

13. No it wasn't.

We all know exactly what he was saying, what he was talking about, and who he was talking about. The only people pretending they don't are the conspiracy theorists whose brains have turned to mush after years of cognitive dissonance. Nothing he could have said would have reached them. They're lost to reality .

[oldtime dfl_er]

15. But it's the crazy people

who are killing democracy -- and people -- with their insanity. All I'm asking is that when public speakers speak out, they do so in a way that leaves no room for misinterpretation.

[PTWB]

16. And what I'm saving is no matter what anyone says, they'll misinterpret it.

[oldtime dfl_er]

17. Yes, I heard you.

did you hear me?

[PTWB]

22. Clearly.

It seems like the issue here is not that Brian Williams was ambiguous but that crazy conspiracy theorists are crazy.

[BlackSkimmer]

34. Sooo, has Fauci been ambiguous? No, he hasn't.

But many of these eejits believe the virus is a hoax.

[Celerity]

14. +1

[XanaDUer2]

2. It's like those meme pictures

Of Willy Wonka with whatever words fit the narrative of one side or the other.

[Casady1]

3. I agree with Ocelet

I thought it was really well done. I am going to miss him. Utterly professional.

[Raine]

27. I thought so too, he was very classy and professional. 👍 nt

[BlackSkimmer]

38. This. nt

[Haggard Celine]

5. Those fuckers believe JFK Jr. Is coming back from the dead

to rule the USA at the side of Trump. Their judgement is suspect, to say the least. BW wasn't being ambiguous. If you watch him, you have no doubts about where he stands.

[skylucy]

6. Anybody who has watched Brian Williams knew what he was saying. The nut jobs, Q idiots etc.

will always deny reality. That's not Mr. Williams' fault.

[oldtime dfl_er]

9. It is

Because he began by saying "I'm not a Democrat or a Republican". I say NO MORE AMBIGUITY, NUANCE or SUBTLETY.

[iemanja]

19. Who are the many?

Because you don't seem to have many agreeing with you.

ETA: Sorry, meant to reply to your other post. However, it's not his job to be a Democratic booster. You shouldn't be looking to journalists for that.

[SharonClark]

24. He didn't say that.

He said he was neither a liberal nor a conservative, he’s a institutionalist. If you’re going to attack someone, at least quote them correctly.

[oldtime dfl_er]

26. mea culpa

.

[BlackSkimmer]

32. So you want him to lie about his political beliefs?

Naw, that’s the other side that gets by on lying all the time.

I’m still gobsmacked any trumpers would be watching MSNBC. Do they watch Maddow too?

[oldtime dfl_er]

33. stop attacking me

.

[BlackSkimmer]

36. Excuse me?

Are you being serious here?

You post an OP saying “F Brian Williams”, a media figure that many of us here respect, and don’t expect pushback?

I simply said I can’t believe your trumpian relatives watch MSNBC.

[oldtime dfl_er]

39. you said

"So you want him to lie about his political beliefs?"

No, I did not say that.

[BlackSkimmer]

43. Ok, lol.

The only attacking here is your implied obscenity toward a figure many of us respect.

We heard his warning. We hope many did and that all will head it.

You have a good night now.

[oldtime dfl_er]

45. Please don't condescend

I am actually quite distraught over this, and nobody seems to agree with me. I suppose I could just shut up and go away but I can't.

[BlackSkimmer]

46. Nobody ever agrees with me here.

Don’t take it personally.

We’re all on the same side.

[2naSalit]

7. He was speaking English...

I didn't interpret it that way at all.

[oldtime dfl_er]

10. No, you didn't

but many do.

[Tommymac]

20. Evidence, besides anecdotal please.

Links, other web sites, tweets, etc.

Don't make blanket statements without proof or they are just opinion. Basic debating 101.

[oldtime dfl_er]

23. Oh come on

I'm not the enemy here. I'm merely asking for clarity from people who have a platform to speak.

[Raine]

21. Agree, same here. 🤔 nt

[Bayard]

18. I couldn't imagine trumpers would be watching his show

The whole evening lineup is definitely pro-Dem.

[oldtime dfl_er]

25. Look

I am only saying that some Trumpers -- some that I KNOW PERSONALLY -- are interpreting his statement as a warning against the current administration. Sure, they're crazy. They think crazy things. They DO crazy things. And that is exactly WHY a person who has a platform must speak clearly and without ambiguity. I'm getting pilloried here for thinking this, but I think it nonetheless. Why be ambiguous? Why not SAY EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN, when the times are as crazy as they are.

[BlackSkimmer]

31. His statements were not in the least ambiguous.

I don’t even see how you can think that.

As far as trumpers thinking that, well we know they’re not known for their great thinking skills.

[niyad]

28. I understood it perfectly. You might point out to your relatives, for example, exactly

WHO is attacking the school boards. Hint: it is NOT liberals, Antifa(scists) or BLM, but the insane reichwingnutjobs.

Brian was VERY clear.

[2 Meow Momma]

29. I've not heard ambiguity in BW comments and I've watched almost every night.

His sharp wit was always aimed at repubs ridiculousness.

Your trumpy relatives obviously didn’t watch the show and are spinning the comments from a world in which the sky is not blue.

[BlackSkimmer]

30. I'm amazed the trumpian members of your family watch MSNBC and Brian Williams.

Even his words went over their heads, at least they’re watching.

There was nothing ambiguous about what he said. Nothing.

[oldtime dfl_er]

35. THEY DON'T

They don't watch MSNBC. This tiny snippet made the rounds and got picked up by some of them who know nothing of the man. Their interpretation is OUT OF CONTEXT and INSANE. That's the point I am laboring to make. IF THERE IS AN IOTA OF AMBIGUITY THEY WILL MISINTERPRET. There was nothing ambiguous in what he said IF YOU HAVE WATCHED HIM REGULARLY. THEY DO NOT.

[BlackSkimmer]

37. Who cares what they think? They think the virus is a hoax; you can't reason with these people.

Williams warning was not for them.

[oldtime dfl_er]

40. I care what they think

They have guns. These are the people who are gearing up to take away democracy. They will use every tool at their disposal. We need to be awake. We should all care.

[oasis]

41. Newsflash: Trumpy nut jobs don't watch MSNBC.

[oldtime dfl_er]

42. I didn't say they did.

I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did. I didn't say they did.

[BlackSkimmer]

44. Dude.