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Nevilledog

(55,081 posts)
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:36 AM Dec 2021

The question we need to ask the American right: "What is it you want permission to do?'

https://theweek.com/politics/1008030/the-question-we-need-to-ask-the-american-right


Listening to the right describe American reality today is a little like overhearing a mid-level military commander preparing a battalion for an upcoming fight to the death with a ruthless enemy: The stakes are enormous. The other side is incredibly powerful. They seek nothing less than to destroy us, and they'll succeed if we don't destroy them first. Our own self-preservation requires nothing short of total victory — by any means possible.

This venom spews forth from our car radios, primetime cable news broadcasts, partisan websites, and the mouths of elected officials, setting a tawdry, unedifying tone for our public life. We've grown so accustomed to the hyperbole that it barely makes an impression.

Yet, as Matthew Sitman and Sam Adler-Bell have frequently suggested on their consistently excellent podcast about the American right, "Know Your Enemy," we need to pay attention to such talk and learn to interrogate it. More specifically, we need to confront it with a crucially important question:

What exactly is the American right giving itself permission to do?

The question is important because it highlights the political function of such hyperbolic rhetoric and suggests, quite rightly, that its ultimate aim is to provide a permission structure for future action.

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The question we need to ask the American right: "What is it you want permission to do?' (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2021 OP
How brave of these sheltered and pampered loudmouths Baked Potato Dec 2021 #1
So we have the Busterscruggs Dec 2021 #2
I think you have some of that backwards. maxsolomon Dec 2021 #11
Thank you Busterscruggs Dec 2021 #13
Question them and it quickly reveals they would violate the Constitution they hypocritically revere Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #3
They treat the Constitution like the Bible.... Nevilledog Dec 2021 #4
And those who have read it aren't equipped to think about it. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #15
How many times do I have to say it? Baitball Blogger Dec 2021 #5
And more importantly PatSeg Dec 2021 #6
We know the answer to that Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #7
Sadly, the most outrageous PatSeg Dec 2021 #8
Too bad nobody ever puts these toddlers in time out or tells them "no" Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #9
Yes, too many people who were never told "no" PatSeg Dec 2021 #10
They always talk about destruction. Boomerproud Dec 2021 #12
That's unfortunately rhetoric not exclusive to the right Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #14

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
1. How brave of these sheltered and pampered loudmouths
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:52 AM
Dec 2021

to spew their divisive bullshit out to everyday Americans trying to live and work together in some kind of peace. All while they suckle the government teat—the government they purport to loath. The government that pampers them and their families with pay and benefits and a retirement.

 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
2. So we have the
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 06:28 AM
Dec 2021

What that needs to happen. How do you suggest we eliminate these fools? They are a harm to themselves and the rest of society.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
11. I think you have some of that backwards.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:54 PM
Dec 2021

The right wants to ELIMINATE liberals.

Welcome to DU, I think. I liked your Ballad.

 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
13. Thank you
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:30 PM
Dec 2021

After seeing that Wisconsin maniac literally get away with murder, it's just a matter of time before they get to the rest of us

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
3. Question them and it quickly reveals they would violate the Constitution they hypocritically revere
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 07:16 AM
Dec 2021

It is only cover for their christo-fascist defence of their privileges (almost always white privilege and mostly white male privilege).

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
15. And those who have read it aren't equipped to think about it.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:34 PM
Dec 2021

For example, they think that the 1st Amendment prevents a private company like Twitter from cancelling an account.

Baitball Blogger

(52,346 posts)
5. How many times do I have to say it?
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:35 AM
Dec 2021

I guess you have to be a member of a minority group to see it clearly. If you live in white suburban communities, especially in the south, it is very clear. They're trying to protect their back channels. The ones that undermine the legal process that we expect public agencies and governments to follow to make sure that everything is fair. It is a tale as old as time. It helps them keep the suburbs white by bestowing help to those who fit their tribes.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
6. And more importantly
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:40 AM
Dec 2021

would they be willing to give that same permission to other people who might disagree with them?

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
7. We know the answer to that
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:19 AM
Dec 2021

Also, the way the corporate media pathologically covers Trumpers, it would seem that their "grievances" (no matter how crazy or out of touch with reality they are) are more important than everybody else's and somehow more legitimate. I certainly didn't see massive coverage of Hillary voters and their concerns for the last 4 years.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
9. Too bad nobody ever puts these toddlers in time out or tells them "no"
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:34 AM
Dec 2021

Trump in particular is very clearly somebody who never got told "no" his entire life.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
10. Yes, too many people who were never told "no"
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:45 PM
Dec 2021

We've all known such people - entitled, demanding, and self-absorbed. Clearly, no one ever taught them about compassion or kindness. They want what they want when they want it and when they don't get their way, they lash out, often becoming abusive with their spouses and children.

Yes, Trump is a classic example of such people.

Boomerproud

(9,292 posts)
12. They always talk about destruction.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:54 PM
Dec 2021

Um...what are they going to replace the destroyed institutions with? Where's that question and where's the answer?

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
14. That's unfortunately rhetoric not exclusive to the right
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:31 PM
Dec 2021

but the same question is definitely applicable.

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