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Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:03 PM Dec 2021

So if a black man threw a fire extinguisher at a cop

and then attacked him with a pole, do you think he would have gotten five years in prison? The white thug who stormed the Capitol and did exactly that, on film, was sentenced to five years.

A black man would have been fortunate not to be shot on the spot. And, if caught on tape, would have been charged with attempted murder and received the max. And they probably would have added a few more charges on to ensure that he got life in prison with no chance of parole.

Looks like Trump's storm troopers are being invited for another try. Unless we pass the voting rights act.

And please, don't tell me about Manchin and Sinema blocking the voting rights act. Two turds blocking democracy doesn't fly with me. These two can be pressured, arm-twisted (and if necessary blackmailed) into falling into line. It's either that, or a fascist country beginning with the election of 2022 and coming to a conclusion when the thugs take over the entire federal government in 2024.

The Democratic leadership and our president must, MUST, make the voting rights act their number one priority and then get it passed doing anything they have to do. If not, America is over. Our freedoms are over. And Nazis will be invited for tea at the White House.

And by the way, what is Merrick Garland doing? Seems like he brought a penknife to a nuclear war.

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So if a black man threw a fire extinguisher at a cop (Original Post) Cyrano Dec 2021 OP
All stops have to be pulled out, there are no longer any other choices. The voting rights act RKP5637 Dec 2021 #1
Rousing, But Still, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2021 #2
Everyone has something they don't want made public Cyrano Dec 2021 #4
I Expect Professionals Are Looking For Such, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2021 #5
Well said about President Lynden Johnson. He didn't take any bullshit and knew how to RKP5637 Dec 2021 #9
Lyndon. niyad Dec 2021 #13
Thank you!!! RKP5637 Dec 2021 #19
Johnson had 68 Democrats in the Senate & almost 300 in the House. NYC Liberal Dec 2021 #21
Certainly those were better times for the vote!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2021 #23
I agree! We need to work our asses off to get those NYC Liberal Dec 2021 #24
Lyndon. niyad Dec 2021 #12
Wouldn't Republicans have exposed that stuff during their last elections? AncientAndy Dec 2021 #16
+1. Play old-school hardball politics. radius777 Dec 2021 #18
And no one here is likely to. I am a medical professional. I know how to do some medical Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #6
He wouldn't be alive choie Dec 2021 #3
This. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #8
For the record... Locutusofborg Dec 2021 #7
Google the word "analogy" Cyrano Dec 2021 #10
Google the word Locutusofborg Dec 2021 #11
Of course. A black woman in Texas mistakenly voted radius777 Dec 2021 #14
Well said. Solomon Dec 2021 #22
If i truly thought fascist's could take over, I wouldn't be positing on the internet. Kaleva Dec 2021 #15
A black man would have been shot as he was leaving the Porta-Pottie. SWB. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2021 #17
Manchin / Cinema are literally blocking democracy, its part of the cycle of acceptance to deny... uponit7771 Dec 2021 #20

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. All stops have to be pulled out, there are no longer any other choices. The voting rights act
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:07 PM
Dec 2021

MUST be passed, whatever it takes.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
2. Rousing, But Still, Sir
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:08 PM
Dec 2021

Do please let us now how 'These two can be pressured, arm-twisted (and if necessary blackmailed) into falling into line.' It's a common thought, I have it myself on occasion, but no one as yet has said how it's to be done....

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
4. Everyone has something they don't want made public
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:14 PM
Dec 2021

Do you really believe that Manchin and Sinema aren't vulnerable? Do you really believe that they haven't done things in their lives that they wouldn't want ANYONE to know. Many, many years ago, President Lynden Johnson passed the voting rights act, the equal rights act, Medicare, Medicaid, and so much more. You think he got that done without knowing where "all the bodies were buried?"

Manchin and Sinema can be forced to cooperate. It's up to our president to make it happen.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
5. I Expect Professionals Are Looking For Such, Sir
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:16 PM
Dec 2021

They do not seem to have the necessaries yet....

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
9. Well said about President Lynden Johnson. He didn't take any bullshit and knew how to
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:23 PM
Dec 2021

knock heads together for accomplishments.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
21. Johnson had 68 Democrats in the Senate & almost 300 in the House.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:02 PM
Dec 2021

Plus there were moderate and liberal Republicans as backup if some of the conservative Democrats weren’t on board.

Easy to make threats when you have those majorities and can find votes elsewhere.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
24. I agree! We need to work our asses off to get those
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 07:11 PM
Dec 2021

kinds of majorities so people like Manchin and Sinema aren’t even relevant.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
18. +1. Play old-school hardball politics.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:22 AM
Dec 2021

Send operatives to AZ and WV and keep digging until you find what you need to 'convince' them to stop obstructing the Dem agenda and to support democracy and voting rights before it is too late.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
6. And no one here is likely to. I am a medical professional. I know how to do some medical
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:22 PM
Dec 2021

things that no one else here but those in my specialty know how to do. No doubt there are skills that are specific to your job that others here do not share.

Politicians' job is politicking. That includes arm twisting and pressuring and cajoling and convincing and trading.

I don't know how to do those things, but is it so unrealistic to think that those in the profession DO know how to do it?

Locutusofborg

(580 posts)
7. For the record...
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:22 PM
Dec 2021

The federal judge who sentenced Robert Palmer to five years in prison is African-American (born in Jamaica) and she was appointed by Barack Obama.
Merrick Garland, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have nothing to do with sentencing of January 6th defendants.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
14. Of course. A black woman in Texas mistakenly voted
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:33 PM
Dec 2021

and got sentenced to 5 years in prison. The white insurrectionists tried to overthrow the gov't and most are getting slaps on the wrist. It's how the system of white privilege works. Whites are viewed as inherently innocent thus sending them to prison is viewed to be painful and tragic, ie 'why mess up their lives, they simply made a mistake.' Where for non-whites being treated roughly and harshly is viewed as necessary and justified, and no benefit of the doubt is given.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
15. If i truly thought fascist's could take over, I wouldn't be positing on the internet.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:46 PM
Dec 2021

Those who have a cursory knowledge of history know that very bad things happen to those who are vocally opposed to fascists who are attempting to take power or are in power.

Posting on the internet is a record. A record that could be used against you.

But since I do not believe fascists will take over and our democracy ended, I feel no worry posting about how I hope TFG leaves this existence soon and that all Magahats are idiots.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
20. Manchin / Cinema are literally blocking democracy, its part of the cycle of acceptance to deny...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:49 PM
Dec 2021

... what is happening with those two.

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