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What would happen if IQ45 up and died (of natural causes)? (Original Post) QED Dec 2021 OP
It would cause a huge conspiracy theory. dchill Dec 2021 #1
Not just "a" conspiracy theory. GoCubsGo Dec 2021 #18
Guy's 75YO veins are filled with KFC grease and McD's special sauce but magats will never believe he Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2021 #34
I feel the same about Mitch. And what's left of Republicans. LakeArenal Dec 2021 #2
Jeeez, 3 days of memorials for trump. There are plenty of vile GOPers who would take his position. Hoyt Dec 2021 #3
And then the resurrection! LOL Tripper11 Dec 2021 #51
Don't doubt it. Hoyt Dec 2021 #53
Zombie Trump Celerity Dec 2021 #80
Certainly put an end to his cult. Kid Berwyn Dec 2021 #4
Or else they'd claim he had been resurrected... Mister Ed Dec 2021 #29
nah they'd just rally around the next "Golden Calf". WarGamer Dec 2021 #89
Will contest. Bigly. WheelWalker Dec 2021 #5
Thread win. yardwork Dec 2021 #68
MAGATs would head for Dallas and wait for him to show up. Sneederbunk Dec 2021 #6
His arising might take longer than the traditional 3 days. WheelWalker Dec 2021 #8
You could replace him with a hologram and an AI and the 30% wouldn't know the difference ck4829 Dec 2021 #7
The party dweller Dec 2021 #9
Unfortunately, IQ45 is a symptom so MAGA and the like would just be re-directed. PufPuf23 Dec 2021 #10
who knows, but there is not enough champagne in our house to celebrate that blessed event! NewHendoLib Dec 2021 #11
There would be Timewas Dec 2021 #12
Florida man qazplm135 Dec 2021 #13
That would be a three for all. House of Roberts Dec 2021 #25
Nah Polybius Dec 2021 #57
The Magaloon cult would drink the Kool-aid, Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2021 #14
One would hope. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #79
New York Times: "As Transformational Leader, Trump Leaves Historic Legacy of Reshaping America" dalton99a Dec 2021 #15
Transformational apparently means destructive KPN Dec 2021 #22
New Years would be rough... lame54 Dec 2021 #16
Probably MissMillie Dec 2021 #17
Yeah, I didn't pay any attention to Reagan's KPN Dec 2021 #23
I dunno AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2021 #28
I don't remember. MissMillie Dec 2021 #45
Nixon chose not to have a state funeral bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #46
Yes, in California at the presidential library, with living presidents etc. Hortensis Dec 2021 #49
Correct, he is a former President, he gets a state funeral. bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #47
I'm sure Trump's will states, "The biggliest state funeral ever" LeftInTX Dec 2021 #73
Will want it at Mar-lardo so he can charge the US Government one last time bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #75
You would see pressbox69 Dec 2021 #19
Conspiracy theories up the wazoo from MAGAts LW1977 Dec 2021 #20
Fake News, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #21
+1. They'd parade his carcass around like Reagan dalton99a Dec 2021 #24
I am thinking Lenin in Red Square. Sneederbunk Dec 2021 #27
I saw Reagan's funeral procession go by my apartment in Thousand Oaks PlanetBev Dec 2021 #32
I would like to be in NYC when that happens PlanetBev Dec 2021 #26
Thae state funeral is for the office, not the person, so we're... TreasonousBastard Dec 2021 #30
The crowds at the funeral will be the biggest ever. pwb Dec 2021 #31
I'd love to be there, hurling tomatoes on Pennsylvania Avenue PlanetBev Dec 2021 #33
The cause will continue Bayard Dec 2021 #35
We would all rejoice! Sogo Dec 2021 #36
His gravesite would be listed on Trip Advisor as a must see international urinal Submariner Dec 2021 #37
The waiting list is already very long. GoneOffShore Dec 2021 #41
He probably will have shanti Dec 2021 #81
He has a gravesite at the NJ golf club. QED Dec 2021 #82
Throw a party vercetti2021 Dec 2021 #38
Lots and lots of paintings (on black velvet, naturally) Buns_of_Fire Dec 2021 #39
If he held a huge event, I mean like millions 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2021 #40
Earth would lose 430 lbs of crap...no amount of toilet paper would rid her of the stain. cayugafalls Dec 2021 #42
I know what I would do tirebiter Dec 2021 #43
His Estate would run for President Mr. Ected Dec 2021 #44
The kids would have his carcass stuffed, mounted, and Buns_of_Fire Dec 2021 #48
To be really up to date Retrograde Dec 2021 #59
I'll take any cause Fullduplexxx Dec 2021 #50
The movement to overthrow the government is in motion, at this point. TFG is important, but... Hekate Dec 2021 #52
I can't wait to find out! 634-5789 Dec 2021 #54
Partying in the streets..all night dancing and other celebrations PortTack Dec 2021 #55
I believe they'd try to use a "body double" and fool people into thinking it was Chump FakeNoose Dec 2021 #56
I'd celebrate. GoodRaisin Dec 2021 #58
Don't get my hopes up. Iggo Dec 2021 #60
If any of you are in New York... LowerManhattanite Dec 2021 #61
Happy dance. nt doc03 Dec 2021 #62
When St. Ronnie died, it was seven straight days of worshiping his corpse. rsdsharp Dec 2021 #63
They could replace him with a robot ThoughtCriminal Dec 2021 #64
then there is a God. librechik Dec 2021 #65
I would conclude that praying for specific outcomes works. Nt raccoon Dec 2021 #66
I think it would be interesting to watch Tree Lady Dec 2021 #67
He's 70+ and very obese. alphafemale Dec 2021 #69
Deathsantis, Abbott or some other asshole will take his place LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #70
The good news: Trump was a TV-Star, tabloid celebrity, the others are not LeftInTX Dec 2021 #74
The Quidiots would claim he faked his death... Happy Hoosier Dec 2021 #71
I've got my champaign chilled Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #72
Why would the cult believe he was dead? Most of them are Q nuts who think JFK and John-John Vinca Dec 2021 #76
Relics will be highly sought after dalton99a Dec 2021 #77
Depends on when it happens. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #78
The maga ballon would burst Deminpenn Dec 2021 #83
Nixon got a state funeral. It's expected. jmowreader Dec 2021 #84
There would be sightings at Seven 11s across the country for years Poiuyt Dec 2021 #85
I assume there'd be a state funeral LeftishBrit Dec 2021 #86
I'd fucking celebrate like Chileans did recently when Pinochet's widow croaked. roamer65 Dec 2021 #87
Pretty simple... WarGamer Dec 2021 #88
There'd be much rejoicing Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 #90
They'd pull a "Weekend at Bernie's" with his corpse at the next RNC convention marmar Dec 2021 #91
"Weekend at McDonald's" LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #92
His cult will be plagued by misery and conspiratorial... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2021 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #94

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
18. Not just "a" conspiracy theory.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:39 PM
Dec 2021

There would be many of them, all of which would involve alleged assassination by some or all of various Dems/BLM/"Antifa"/the Cheneys/Dr Fauci/those 2 Jan.6 planners who rolled on him/Mike Pence/Vindman and other impeachment testifiers/his enemy of the day... No doubt there will also be violence against some of these people, unfortunately.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,845 posts)
34. Guy's 75YO veins are filled with KFC grease and McD's special sauce but magats will never believe he
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:09 PM
Dec 2021

...could die of anything but assassination.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Jeeez, 3 days of memorials for trump. There are plenty of vile GOPers who would take his position.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:17 PM
Dec 2021

Tripper11

(4,338 posts)
51. And then the resurrection! LOL
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:54 PM
Dec 2021

....because you know the nutjobs will be saying he will come back.

Mister Ed

(5,942 posts)
29. Or else they'd claim he had been resurrected...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:57 PM
Dec 2021

...and had ascended to Heaven to sit at the right hand of God, and pass judgement on all whom the cult regarded as Unbelievers.

ck4829

(35,079 posts)
7. You could replace him with a hologram and an AI and the 30% wouldn't know the difference
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:23 PM
Dec 2021

Sometimes, that’s what I think Steve Bannon and others are secretly hoping for.

dweller

(23,648 posts)
9. The party
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:26 PM
Dec 2021

gonna be lit … don’t care if there are funeral dirges, clothes rent teeth gnashed sobs and wails … they can attempt a resurrection for all I care

At my house the party will be lit

✌🏻

PufPuf23

(8,809 posts)
10. Unfortunately, IQ45 is a symptom so MAGA and the like would just be re-directed.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:27 PM
Dec 2021

One has to wonder how the USA would handle TFG's immediate death?

It would be twisted we are so dysfunctional as a nation at present and at least 30% are batshit crazy and mean members of the MAGA cult.

The elephant in the room is the high level of toxic Christianity and the starkly obvious level of racism that exists (and I am not so sure more tribalism is the answer, may we be a beige species ASAP).

NewHendoLib

(60,018 posts)
11. who knows, but there is not enough champagne in our house to celebrate that blessed event!
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:31 PM
Dec 2021

would be big time shopping time for us!

House of Roberts

(5,179 posts)
25. That would be a three for all.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:54 PM
Dec 2021

Rick Scott, Rubio, and DeathSentence would stumble all over each other to be the next 'chosen one'.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
22. Transformational apparently means destructive
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:41 PM
Dec 2021

these days. I say these days because there was FDR. But Reagan? TFG?

MissMillie

(38,570 posts)
17. Probably
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:35 PM
Dec 2021

and it wouldn't really bother me if there were a big state funeral. If there wasn't one, Before he was inaugurated, we had norms. If we abandon the norms we're just like him.

MissMillie

(38,570 posts)
45. I don't remember.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:51 PM
Dec 2021

And I don't really care.

But speaking for me (and only for me): Worrying about whether or not TFG would get a state funeral is WAY down on the list of things I choose to expend energy on.

bottomofthehill

(8,339 posts)
46. Nixon chose not to have a state funeral
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:52 PM
Dec 2021

Instead, heads of government, foreign leaders, diplomats all traveled to The Nixon Library in California to say farewell.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. Yes, in California at the presidential library, with living presidents etc.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:53 PM
Dec 2021

I expect if tRump died in prison he'd still receive a state funeral, whether fellow presidents attended or just their official representatives, perhaps depending on what he was convicted of. After all, he was POTUS, and over 70 million Americans elected him, twice. A dreadful national disgrace, but when half the nation doesn't know it?

Not predictable is who his vengeful fascistic followers would make their new Der Leader, or would they fizzle out? Eventually? After the Koch types pulled their plug, the anti-establishment Tea Party populists went quiet for a bit before being reborn as tRump's authoritarian extremists.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
19. You would see
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:39 PM
Dec 2021

the slow demise of the Trump cult and the rise of the DeathSantis cult. So sad that DeathSantis already brainwashed his three little brats to love Trump.

LW1977

(1,236 posts)
20. Conspiracy theories up the wazoo from MAGAts
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:40 PM
Dec 2021

These zombies will believe anything, even if the proof against it is right in their faces.

gab13by13

(21,379 posts)
21. Fake News,
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:41 PM
Dec 2021

GQPers would embalm him and roll him around from rally to rally and he would win the GQP nomination. Even Melania won't notice the difference.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
32. I saw Reagan's funeral procession go by my apartment in Thousand Oaks
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:02 PM
Dec 2021

I live twenty minutes below the Reagan ranch in Simi Valley. I was out there on the street, of course. Wanted to make sure he was dead. I did enjoy the missing man formation fly over.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
26. I would like to be in NYC when that happens
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:54 PM
Dec 2021

Their rotten native son declared dead? Times Square would be like VJ Day in 1945. The celebrations would go on for days.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
30. Thae state funeral is for the office, not the person, so we're...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:02 PM
Dec 2021

stuck with one. But it will be a short one.

God help us, though, if he is assassinated. We'll never hear the end of it.

pwb

(11,287 posts)
31. The crowds at the funeral will be the biggest ever.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:02 PM
Dec 2021

Even when the streets are bare when his procession goes by. Celebrations will bring more people out.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
33. I'd love to be there, hurling tomatoes on Pennsylvania Avenue
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:07 PM
Dec 2021

Big, fat, juicy, overripe beef 🍅 🍅.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
81. He probably will have
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 05:30 PM
Dec 2021

a family crypt located on private property, surrounded by a high fence, just to preclude that scenario.

QED

(2,747 posts)
82. He has a gravesite at the NJ golf club.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 05:55 PM
Dec 2021

Sorry about the Fox link. The date on the article is 2013. Not much more at link.

BEDMINSTER, N.J. – Donald Trump has been given permission to make New Jersey his final resting place.

Officials in Bedminster tell The Star-Ledger that the township's land use board granted approval Sept. 12 for Trump to build a private cemetery on the grounds of the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster.

Board secretary Trina Lindsey says the board voted to grant approval for a maximum of 10 grave sites, limited to Trump and members of his immediate family. A spokeswoman for the Trump organization declined comment to the newspaper.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-private-cemetery-approved-in-new-jersey

Buns_of_Fire

(17,188 posts)
39. Lots and lots of paintings (on black velvet, naturally)
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:36 PM
Dec 2021

depicting him ascending the escalator to heaven, complete with weeping angels and flocks of cherubs kissing his manly butt. ($59.95 plus shipping, credit cards accepted.)

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
40. If he held a huge event, I mean like millions
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:38 PM
Dec 2021

And served coolaid, I'd be happy as shit. Problem is finding a venue for 75 million.


cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
42. Earth would lose 430 lbs of crap...no amount of toilet paper would rid her of the stain.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:41 PM
Dec 2021

Only time...

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
44. His Estate would run for President
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:50 PM
Dec 2021

And the MAGATs would vote for the triumvirate of Jr., Ivanka and Eric to take us to the Promised Land.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,188 posts)
48. The kids would have his carcass stuffed, mounted, and
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:53 PM
Dec 2021

displayed in perpetuity at Morte-a-Lardo (which would become the new headquarters of Trumpatology). And for a very reasonable $50 admission, the disciples may enter the holy bathroom to view The Great Man, straining to produce another nugget of wisdom (thanks to the magic of animatronics).

Nuggets of Wisdom may also be purchased at the shrine's gift shop, only $29.95.

Retrograde

(10,143 posts)
59. To be really up to date
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:46 PM
Dec 2021

those nuggets will have to be an NFT - like Melania's latest scam! And priced much, much higher.

Hekate

(90,768 posts)
52. The movement to overthrow the government is in motion, at this point. TFG is important, but...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:56 PM
Dec 2021

…not critical, to its continuance.
JMHO


FakeNoose

(32,705 posts)
56. I believe they'd try to use a "body double" and fool people into thinking it was Chump
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:15 PM
Dec 2021

I wouldn't be surprised if the "deep state" ultra-conservative think tanks are already considering that move. Sooner or later somebody will make a movie about it, just to give people the idea that it can be done.

rsdsharp

(9,195 posts)
63. When St. Ronnie died, it was seven straight days of worshiping his corpse.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 03:15 PM
Dec 2021

They think Trump is a god. It would be a month long orgy, at least.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
64. They could replace him with a robot
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 03:16 PM
Dec 2021

The "Artificial Stupidity" software would be absurdly easy to write. Just generate insults from his limited vocabulary and pluck conspiracy theories from "Fox and Friends" and "Q". It's not like it would have to actually think.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
65. then there is a God.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 03:17 PM
Dec 2021

I'm an atheist, so just counting on science to fell the sick bloated evil puppy, someday when the telomeres run out for the Mango Moron.

Tree Lady

(11,482 posts)
67. I think it would be interesting to watch
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 03:25 PM
Dec 2021

What all the republican leaders afraid of not obeying him would do on voting. Would they be threatened by the next republican leader or feel released to do whats right for the country?

I bet secretly a lot of republican leaders would be happy and relieved.

As far as funeral they will have one and if its when Joe is still there he and VP would go because they believe in being above politics at times like that.

His kids I think would leave politics if dad gone, I think they all followed him there to win his approval.

And I think the civil war in republican party would get worse as the non Trumpians would stand up more.

LeftInTX

(25,483 posts)
74. The good news: Trump was a TV-Star, tabloid celebrity, the others are not
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:33 PM
Dec 2021

Abbott certainly won't get much traction as a "strong man"..LOL

Roger Stone is trying.

Maybe the Duggar family will be their next savior....

It's gonna be a reality TV star...

Maybe the Duck Dynasty Klan...

Once again, it will be someone who was never elected to a previous office. The more outrageous, the better for them.

Happy Hoosier

(7,366 posts)
71. The Quidiots would claim he faked his death...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 03:47 PM
Dec 2021

And was gonna make a triumphant return to become king of the world, crowned by Jeebus himself

Vinca

(50,300 posts)
76. Why would the cult believe he was dead? Most of them are Q nuts who think JFK and John-John
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:49 PM
Dec 2021

will be cavorting with them in Dallas any day now. Personally, I'd go out and buy the most expensive bottle of champagne at the liquor store and celebrate.

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)
77. Relics will be highly sought after
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:56 PM
Dec 2021

like Khomeini:


https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-06-06-mn-1929-story.html

Khomeini’s Body Falls From Coffin as Frenzied Mourners Tear Shroud
June 6, 1989 12 AM PT
From Times Wire Services

TEHRAN — Millions of frenzied mourners carried away with grief tore the white shroud from the body of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, toppling his half-naked corpse to the ground, before the Iranian leader was buried today.

Mourners blocked the path of a van carrying Khomeini’s body in an open coffin to the cemetery from the square where it had lain in state for 24 hours in an air-conditioned glass cubicle.

In a scramble for mementos, they grabbed the tightly wrapped white shroud in which Muslims are buried and tore it to shreds.

State television later showed the mourners grabbing the body and pulling the shroud, until the feet could be seen. The broadcast then was cut off abruptly for several minutes.

“The people love the imam too much,” a young man said. “They cannot bear to see him buried.” He said they wanted pieces of the shroud “as sacred relics.”

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
84. Nixon got a state funeral. It's expected.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 06:39 PM
Dec 2021

Okay, here’s what will happen.

As soon as Trump croaks, his body will be taken to Kentucky. There they have veterinarians with the equipment to cremate racehorses, which will be necessary in this case.

The ashes will be taken to New York on a government aircraft…not Air Force One, but a C-130. There will be four people in the cargo hold, one equipped with a Geiger counter. Once the crew has determined the radiation coming off Trump’s urn (a 2-liter Diet Coke bottle) has subsided to safe levels, they will turn over the urn to the White House staff.

The day before the funeral, the FCC will grant a blanket waiver to all television and radio broadcasts exempting them from the laws prohibiting the transmission of obscenities over the public airwaves.

A lavish state funeral will be conducted. The keynote speakers will be Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, AOC, and former Mexican President Vicente Fox.

A special statue will be unveiled during the ceremony: President Fox’s Mount Rushmore of Shitty Presidents, which is just Trump’s head four times. It will be made of spray foam.

A burial ceremony will follow. Because the government has an interest in not having a former president’s grave turned into a urinal, Trump’s ashes and six charge increments will be loaded into an M198 howitzer and fired into the ocean.

The festivities will continue as Ivanka, Eric, Don Don and Jared are arrested at the ceremony and taken away in a restored paddy wagon.

A three-day blowout party will immediately follow

Poiuyt

(18,129 posts)
85. There would be sightings at Seven 11s across the country for years
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 06:41 PM
Dec 2021

Seriously, though, there would be enough conspiracy theories to keep Qanon thriving for a long time instead of fizzling out.

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
86. I assume there'd be a state funeral
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 06:47 PM
Dec 2021

Possibly partially online at the moment

MAGA types would probably say the Dems murdered him.

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
88. Pretty simple...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:10 PM
Dec 2021

The GOP would hatch someone WORSE.

He'd get the State funeral...

They'd run in 2022 and 2024 "for the gipper" and name 100 different airports, national parks and buildings after him. They'd make Ivanka Speaker of the House for a month...

People who think Trump is the founder of the present day craziness haven't been paying attention. He's just the first one who was HONEST about the goals of conservatives. Prior GOP'ers were just more successful at HIDING their intentions.

I think Ivanka would run in 2024 and I'd give her a 50/50 shot judging by how fucked up the country is today.

I don't think we'll EVER have another Barack Obama again. The good days are behind us.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
93. His cult will be plagued by misery and conspiratorial...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:07 PM
Dec 2021

... thoughts as usual for them. And they'll continue to commit violence to punish everyone else for their unhappiness.

Meanwhile, I'll be happy and energetic enough to actually dance to something as goofy as this aerobics video from the 80's, cringeworthy synthesizer-music and all:


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