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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:24 PM Dec 2021

BREAKING: Stop The Steal Founder implicates GOP Lawmakers in Jan 6. Conspiracy

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/18/stop-the-steal-founder-jan-6-committee-gop-lawmakers-525345

‘Stop the Steal’ founder told Jan. 6 committee about contacts with GOP lawmakers

The description of the testimony comes in a lawsuit Ali Alexander filed to block the committee from obtaining his phone records.


Ali Alexander, who founded the pro-Trump “Stop the Steal” movement and attended the rally that preceded the Capitol attack, told congressional investigators that he recalls “a few phone conversations” with Rep. Paul Gosar and a text exchange with Rep. Mo Brooks about his efforts in the run-up to Jan. 6, his lawyers confirmed in a late Friday court filing.

Alexander also told the Jan. 6 House select committee that he spoke to Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) in person “and never by phone, to the best of his recollection,” his lawyers say.


Gosar, Brooks, Biggs and others are directly implicated in the planning of the attack.
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BREAKING: Stop The Steal Founder implicates GOP Lawmakers in Jan 6. Conspiracy (Original Post) berni_mccoy Dec 2021 OP
"Traitors" Kid Berwyn Dec 2021 #1
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #3
MCE DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #28
I learned to drive the big rigs in the Marines, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #30
Yes it was DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #31
Ditto. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #38
Jarhead Cherokee100 Dec 2021 #41
Back atcha and welcome to DU. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #2
Maybe he is waiting because CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #5
No. The DOJ could get this evidence with a warrant. berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #10
Yup Sherman A1 Dec 2021 #18
Hoping. ancianita Dec 2021 #25
These assholes should be arrested today. nt PufPuf23 Dec 2021 #4
That would require the DOJ to launch an investigation. berni_mccoy Dec 2021 #7
Actions (or non-actions) of the DOJ are worrisome. PufPuf23 Dec 2021 #15
I was sooooo excited DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #29
Well, if there is no Justice for the top Dan Dec 2021 #35
These traitors better figure it out quickly, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #6
If anybody knows about the Mango Menace's propensity MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #11
I see a few of these Congress people getting indicted. louis-t Dec 2021 #9
From the article: mucifer Dec 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #13
NAILED IT orangecrush Dec 2021 #53
The Stop the Steal guy does logistics by 'recall a few' and 'to the best of his recollection'??? LOL bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #14
I know Biden has vowed to not interfere with the Justice Dept. Bayard Dec 2021 #16
Fun thread NJCher Dec 2021 #47
Dept. of Just Wait! Brainfodder Dec 2021 #48
Dept of No Justice Bayard Dec 2021 #55
It's time for bracelets!!! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #17
Why would those clowns think Trump had their back? Postal Grunt Dec 2021 #19
I have been asking myself the same thing, and the only answer I can come up with is that they Escurumbele Dec 2021 #21
Special NJCher Dec 2021 #49
They never stopped to think what failure would mean FakeNoose Dec 2021 #22
Consider the level of stupidity required to be a Trump fan. Pro-level stupid. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #51
Gosar would make a very good character in a Nazi movie, his face fits perfectly in a Nazi suit Escurumbele Dec 2021 #20
Now investigators need to know the content of those communications... CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #23
Lock them up!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 #24
Are they implicated in the rally planning, wnylib Dec 2021 #26
You would think that is an important distinction .... reACTIONary Dec 2021 #36
I would add Trump, Meadows, wnylib Dec 2021 #43
Never forget Liz Cheney has always known the truth, 'You fucking did this.' (to Jim Jordan 1/6/21) Botany Dec 2021 #27
Yes indeed. Thankfully she has a spine. nt SunSeeker Dec 2021 #32
Just in time for Solstice!! Exactly what I wanted to celebrate the new season! lindysalsagal Dec 2021 #33
I'll attend their hangings. I'll pack a nice lunch. ZonkerHarris Dec 2021 #34
They were very recently wanting firing squad back in play, made me laugh, I remember Gary. Brainfodder Dec 2021 #50
Mussolini's was satisfying in the fact that Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2021 #52
So where are the subpoenas? The arrest warrants? PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #37
that whole "Stop the Steal" BS.... RussBLib Dec 2021 #39
More like "Start the Steal". n/t keep_left Dec 2021 #40
Post removed Post removed Dec 2021 #42
Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #45
Be careful, moderators didn't even like me comparing him to a British statesman in late 1930s. triron Dec 2021 #46
Comes as a surprise to very few. calimary Dec 2021 #54

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
28. MCE
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:20 PM
Dec 2021

50 years ago, an over the road trucker friend of mine took me out and let me drive his Kenworth KW-40??????
I felt privileged that he did that so that I wouldn't have to put it on my bucket list later in life........LOL

Later, I drove/engineered a 100' Aerial Tower Fire Truck..........

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,423 posts)
30. I learned to drive the big rigs in the Marines,
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:29 PM
Dec 2021

transporting our heavy equip to where they had to go, mostly lowboy trailers, some flatbed and sometimes container, however, the comfort of a military big rig leaves a HELL of alot to be desired, along with the ride.

100' Aerial Tower Fire Truck?
That had to be one hell of a job.
My respect and hat's off to you for being on the front line as a first responder.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
31. Yes it was
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:56 PM
Dec 2021

It also was frightening at times, driving a rig that size emergent thru city traffic would not be described as fun........

Be well MCE and stay safe! This world is a lot better with people like you in it...........

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CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
5. Maybe he is waiting because
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:29 PM
Dec 2021

Maybe he is waiting because the evidence keeps rolling in and pointing to the top.

Response to CrackityJones75 (Reply #5)

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
18. Yup
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:30 PM
Dec 2021

It will come down to the "let the people decide at the next election...." All these guys and gals will skate without a care in the world.

ancianita

(36,130 posts)
25. Hoping.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:14 PM
Dec 2021

The DOJ will NOT do its job -- the AG will not do HIS job -- if they won't prosecute high crimes. "Let the people decide" is a cop out and fake justice. It was the crap excuse used by the Senate, maybe, but it can't be used by the AG or DOJ.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
7. That would require the DOJ to launch an investigation.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:31 PM
Dec 2021

And I am starting to think that isn’t going to happen

PufPuf23

(8,810 posts)
15. Actions (or non-actions) of the DOJ are worrisome.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:53 PM
Dec 2021

Many at DU have flashbacks of Fitzmas, Mueller Report, war crimes in Iraq, Iran-Contra, BCCI, Watergate, and so on.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
29. I was sooooo excited
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:27 PM
Dec 2021

waiting for the Mueller investigation............He sort of soft balled all of the incriminating evidence he gathered, soft pedaling the whole thing.

I think Mueller knew just how bad the information was that he compiled, and being a lifetime Republican he just couldn't bear taking down the entire Republican Party forever more. That's my opinion..........

gab13by13

(21,379 posts)
6. These traitors better figure it out quickly,
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:29 PM
Dec 2021

from Meadows on down, Trump will not hesitate to throw all of them under the bus, including Jr.

Just repeating what I heard Michael Cohen say, and he should know about getting thrown under the bus.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,423 posts)
11. If anybody knows about the Mango Menace's propensity
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:34 PM
Dec 2021

to throw family/friends, etc under the but, it would be Michael Cohen.

louis-t

(23,296 posts)
9. I see a few of these Congress people getting indicted.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:33 PM
Dec 2021

I doubt tfg will ever be prosecuted for Jan.6. I think NY will get him, though.

mucifer

(23,558 posts)
12. From the article:
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:35 PM
Dec 2021
“We four schemed up to put maximum pressure on Congress while they were voting,” Alexander said in the video.


Wow!

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bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
14. The Stop the Steal guy does logistics by 'recall a few' and 'to the best of his recollection'??? LOL
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:53 PM
Dec 2021

Great execution guy. I think his phone records might jog a few memories.

Bayard

(22,121 posts)
16. I know Biden has vowed to not interfere with the Justice Dept.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:59 PM
Dec 2021

But someone needs to be giving Garland a big push, even if its viewed as partisan. Schumer and Pelosi maybe?

Otherwise, the Justice Dept. needs to be re-named.

NJCher

(35,706 posts)
47. Fun thread
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:18 AM
Dec 2021

Otherwise, the Justice Dept. needs to be re-named.

We should have a thread where we come up with new and deserving names for DOJ.

Postal Grunt

(218 posts)
19. Why would those clowns think Trump had their back?
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:43 PM
Dec 2021

Given his habit of throwing people under the bus and exhibiting no loyalty to his underlings, why would they expect Trump to save their bacon when they get tossed into the fire of intense investigative scrutiny?

Escurumbele

(3,401 posts)
21. I have been asking myself the same thing, and the only answer I can come up with is that they
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:46 PM
Dec 2021

truly believe they are "SPECIAL", that it would never happen to them, until it does of course.

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NJCher

(35,706 posts)
49. Special
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:25 AM
Dec 2021

Makes sense. It’s some kind of thinking or cognitive disorder.

Enjoyed the tune. Maybe trump can use his tiny fingers on their behalf, no?

FakeNoose

(32,705 posts)
22. They never stopped to think what failure would mean
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:59 PM
Dec 2021

I'm sure they assumed they'd be successful in crowning Chump as "President for Life" and therefore they would be rewarded for their efforts.

It never occurred to them they were (a) breaking the law and (b) would be held accountable. Here's the biggie: (c) once they'd failed, Chump would no longer have pardoning power, and their goose is cooked.

Lock these stupid assholes up!

Escurumbele

(3,401 posts)
20. Gosar would make a very good character in a Nazi movie, his face fits perfectly in a Nazi suit
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:45 PM
Dec 2021

Every time I see him open his mouth I am expecting him to speak in German.

What scum the guy is, it is amazing the voters in his state did not listen to his family's warnings, but then again those may have been considered attributes for his base.

CaptainTruth

(6,599 posts)
23. Now investigators need to know the content of those communications...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:00 PM
Dec 2021

...which I'm sure they're in the process of obtaining.

Making phone calls & sending texts is not illegal & when we start saying someone should be locked up because they had phone conversations or exchanged texts (without knowing what was discussed) we have become what we claim to hate.

reACTIONary

(5,771 posts)
36. You would think that is an important distinction ....
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 03:26 PM
Dec 2021

... that would be kept in mind. I don't find it remarkable that a political operative who is planning a rally for a political party would be talking to some politicians of that party.

These are certainly facts worth understanding in a legislative enquiry, but there is nothing in the public record as of yet which would implicate them in a crime.

So far, the only criminal conspiracy that is evident is the proud boys and the oath keepers. And they are being prosecuted.

Botany

(70,551 posts)
27. Never forget Liz Cheney has always known the truth, 'You fucking did this.' (to Jim Jordan 1/6/21)
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:16 PM
Dec 2021



Liz Cheney smacked GOP Rep. Jim Jordan's hand away when he tried to escort her during the
Capitol riot, telling him,'You fucking did this.'

If proven to be true why should any of these people be allowed to sit in Congress. They supported a violent coup whose
purpose it was might have been the killing the Speaker of the House and the Vice President, cause massive violence and
bloodshed, in order to allow Trump to declare martial law in and stop the Constitutionally mandated peaceful change of power.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
50. They were very recently wanting firing squad back in play, made me laugh, I remember Gary.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:34 AM
Dec 2021

I am not sure they have hearts to shoot? But willing to witness and even inspect!

The last Romanian dictator, yeah that works too!
Took him and his wife outside right after convicted and shot them.

Mussolini's fate works too.

Nice to have options.









Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,977 posts)
52. Mussolini's was satisfying in the fact that
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:57 AM
Dec 2021

the public got their chance to express their feelings as his corpse lay ignominiously in the street before being hung up in a public square in Milan. Too bad Hitler couldn't have met the same fate.

RussBLib

(9,029 posts)
39. that whole "Stop the Steal" BS....
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 05:25 PM
Dec 2021

such bold projection

It was, of course, T**** that was trying to "steal" the election, so natch, it had to be thrown back at the Dems

The Gang That Couldn't Coup Straight

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triron

(22,011 posts)
46. Be careful, moderators didn't even like me comparing him to a British statesman in late 1930s.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 07:11 PM
Dec 2021

I think your post is even more extreme than mine. I know you're frustrated. Join the club.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
54. Comes as a surprise to very few.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:01 PM
Dec 2021

I’m certainly not surprised. I would have guessed exactly those two - at the very least.

What intrigues me is how Matt Gaetz seems to have vanished from this particular guilty zone. Either he’s REALLY good at laying low, or he’s been all bluster without backing it up. Maybe he’s the type who just talks a good game? Or maybe he’s just a nogoodnik who’s REALLY stealthy about covering his tracks.

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