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ARPad95

(1,672 posts)
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 08:45 PM Dec 2021

Syracuse mother and adult son with Covid-19 die minutes apart at Crouse Hospital

Last edited Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:53 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2021/12/syracuse-mother-and-adult-son-with-covid-19-die-minutes-apart-at-crouse-hospital.html

Syracuse, N.Y. — A 64-year-old woman and her 30-year-old son - who both had Covid-19 - died a few minutes apart this week in Syracuse.

Jacqueline A. Alpeter and James C. Alpeter III, who both lived in Syracuse, died Tuesday while being treated at Crouse Hospital in Syracuse, according to their joint obituary.

“So saddened by the sudden passing of Jackie Alpeter and son Jimmy within minutes of each other,” James Roger Farley wrote on Facebook on Thursday. Farley is former pastor of Family Worship Center in Clay. “Pastored the Alpeter family for over 50 years. Covid is demonic.”


A classmate of James Alpeter, husband of Jacqueline and father of James III, commented Tuesday on Facebook that they both had died of Covid.

“Our hearts are wrenching and our prayers (are) for you brother,” the man wrote.

Farley, contacted by Syracuse.com | The Post-Standard Friday, declined to comment on the two deaths. The Alpeter family declined Friday to discuss the deaths, other than to say they died after a brief illness.

Jacqueline posted in June a photo of herself with these words around it: “I’m not having the vaccine. My body, My choice.” In May she posted a photo of herself and the words “I trust my immune system not an experimental vaccine. My DNA, My Choice.”

Jacqueline worked at Syracuse University from 1983 to 2009, according to her obituary. She was listed as library technician in the university’s library, according to Syracuse.com | The Post-Standard archives.


James III was a graduate of East Syracuse Minoa High School in 2011, the obituary said.


"Covid is demonic."



No, Pastor Farley. It's just a virus (humans are made up of trillions of viruses*) that is highly likely to replicate itself and wreck havoc in your unvaccinated parishioners who contract it. Spread the word from a science book why don't ya? You might literally help save a life or two.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/viruses-can-help-us-as-well-as-harm-us/

*Scientists' rapidly expanding knowledge makes it clear that we are not made up primarily of “human” cells that are occasionally invaded by microbes; our body is really a superorganism of cohabitating cells, bacteria, fungi and most numerous of all: viruses.



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Syracuse mother and adult son with Covid-19 die minutes apart at Crouse Hospital (Original Post) ARPad95 Dec 2021 OP
I wonder how many people they passed it on to Skittles Dec 2021 #1
Yeah. I'm only sorry that they were passing it Captain Zero Dec 2021 #4
I'll bet the pastor counseled them to avoid the vaccine. RicROC Dec 2021 #2
Indeed. benfranklin1776 Dec 2021 #26
My gut reaction - he probably followed up the "COVID is demonic" comment with, bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #31
She's dead Deuxcents Dec 2021 #3
No, lady, it's not "your choice," chances are you passed it on to your now deceased son. Rhiannon12866 Dec 2021 #5
This is almost 3825-87867 Dec 2021 #6
Actually, it does depend on how the particular policy is written. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #9
So, therefore, vaccines are angelic. dchill Dec 2021 #7
My main question is, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #8
They all have an epiphany... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #25
Notice none if them hesitate to go to a hospital when JI7 Dec 2021 #10
Fantastic material for... PTWB Dec 2021 #11
That site must be.... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #27
Also definite Herman Cain Award winners. Initech Dec 2021 #35
I shrug my shoulders and don't even think "thoughts and prayers" any more. Just bye bye. NT. SayItLoud Dec 2021 #12
My neighborhood is full of "Faith, Not Fear" lawn placards, displayed by anti-vaxxers to proclaim sop Dec 2021 #13
The "drowning man" story is one of my favorite jokes ever, and the parallels bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #32
You pays your... 3catwoman3 Dec 2021 #14
And how many unvaccinated congregation people would be next IronLionZion Dec 2021 #15
Post removed Post removed Dec 2021 #16
Funny how not being able to breath sends anti-vaxxers running to hospitals NickB79 Dec 2021 #17
It's unfortunate, preventable (most likely), but certainly NOT demonic! liberalla Dec 2021 #18
A wave is coming, and they will die by the thousands. "Dem Hoax" "Kung Flu" "Magically Going Away" Evolve Dammit Dec 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #22
So far, Omicron is not a killer. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #29
If it were human, it would be considered a serial killer already. LisaL Dec 2021 #34
Have they? Everything I've seen says that Omicron is highly transmissable, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #36
Yes- people are dying from it Thtwudbeme Dec 2021 #37
I've been wearing my KN95 masks all along, myself. No change there. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #39
Hardly anyone ends up in the hospital? LisaL Dec 2021 #41
The devil is getting a bum rap here Walleye Dec 2021 #20
"I'd rather die than admit a Democrat might have been right after all." BobTheSubgenius Dec 2021 #21
What a shame for them. Judi Lynn Dec 2021 #23
"To dine with their lord and savior". SergeStorms Dec 2021 #28
My body, my choice. Polio, small pox, measles, etc elias7 Dec 2021 #24
Buh Bye! BidenRocks Dec 2021 #30
my body, my choice RussBLib Dec 2021 #33
Your choice your death, Bubye! Brainfodder Dec 2021 #38
Great choice Jacqueline BradAllison Dec 2021 #40
Your body, your choice, yes. But other people's bodies--NOT your choice. DFW Dec 2021 #42

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
4. Yeah. I'm only sorry that they were passing it
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:40 PM
Dec 2021

Around to others. They don't have a right to do that with Covid, VD, or any other virus.

RicROC

(1,249 posts)
2. I'll bet the pastor counseled them to avoid the vaccine.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:32 PM
Dec 2021

So, he misled them and I would call his actions demonic.

benfranklin1776

(7,016 posts)
26. Indeed.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:12 PM
Dec 2021

He is the quintessential wolf in sheeps clothing. What’s demonic is leading your flock to horrific slaughter by a virus that they have been given the tools to survive.

bullwinkle428

(20,662 posts)
31. My gut reaction - he probably followed up the "COVID is demonic" comment with,
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:04 AM
Dec 2021

"but I think the vaccine is worse!"

Deuxcents

(26,915 posts)
3. She's dead
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:33 PM
Dec 2021

And so is her son b/c they chose to die. Yes, a good question might be how many they infected

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
5. No, lady, it's not "your choice," chances are you passed it on to your now deceased son.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:50 PM
Dec 2021

And likely many others.

3825-87867

(1,939 posts)
6. This is almost
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:52 PM
Dec 2021

intentional suicide when you get right down to it.

If they are insured, does their insurance pay death benefits?

If I put a gun to my head and pull the trigger or intentionally drive off a bridge or into a tree my insurance won't pay benefits to my dependents. They may not even pay funeral costs.

These things are going to sky rocket the costs of health care and insurance for the rest of us.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
9. Actually, it does depend on how the particular policy is written.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:01 PM
Dec 2021

Many simply have a two or three year exclusion of benefits for suicide, after which the dependents/survivors will get the insurance.

And it's really not that an increase in health care costs will occur, but that so many are leaving direct patient care because of this.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
8. My main question is,
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:59 PM
Dec 2021

if they had so little trust in science, then what the fuck were either of them doing in a hospital? Trust your immune system? Then stay home and let the hospital care for those who truly deserve care. I'm heartily sick of reading about someone having a heart attack, going to the local emergency room, but having to wait in a hallway for two or three days while unvaccinated idiots get care.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
25. They all have an epiphany...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:12 PM
Dec 2021

of sorts. When you get sick to the point of having difficulty drawing a breath of air, and all of your prayers fail you, science becomes the very next, and only, recourse. Their god had forsaken them. Science becomes your new god almost instantaneously.

Yes, they both made their own choice, but far too late for science to help.

JI7

(93,616 posts)
10. Notice none if them hesitate to go to a hospital when
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:04 PM
Dec 2021

they start feeling sick. Even though they ignored what professionals that work there said about covid.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
27. That site must be....
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:19 PM
Dec 2021

getting full very quickly. If it isn't, it soon will be.

There's going to be a crush of new entrants in the next few months, after the holidays conclude, and the virus starts reaping souls at an unheard of pace.

More job opportunities. They'll have to hire more help just to keep up with the new names.

SayItLoud

(1,774 posts)
12. I shrug my shoulders and don't even think "thoughts and prayers" any more. Just bye bye. NT.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:05 PM
Dec 2021

sop

(18,619 posts)
13. My neighborhood is full of "Faith, Not Fear" lawn placards, displayed by anti-vaxxers to proclaim
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:12 PM
Dec 2021

their belief God will protect them from the Covid-19 virus, not man-made vaccines. Their obstinacy reminds me of the parable of the drowning man, a story about a devoutly Christian man who refuses several rescue attempts in the face of rising floodwaters, each time telling his would-be rescuers "God will save me." After turning down the last rescue effort, the man drowns in the flood.

After his death the man stands before God and asks why he allowed him to die. God responds that he sent all the rescuers to the man's aid, but he refused the help. Covid vaccines are God's way of helping these folks, but they're too stupid to realize it.

bullwinkle428

(20,662 posts)
32. The "drowning man" story is one of my favorite jokes ever, and the parallels
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:07 AM
Dec 2021

to the vaccine could not be any clearer.

3catwoman3

(29,406 posts)
14. You pays your...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:13 PM
Dec 2021

...money, you takes your choice.

I'm sure she did her own research, and now she's been owned by COVID-19.

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
15. And how many unvaccinated congregation people would be next
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:14 PM
Dec 2021

since these folks would have all come into close contact with each other. The anti-vax church crown is getting it hard. Maybe COVID is the rapture

Response to ARPad95 (Original post)

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
17. Funny how not being able to breath sends anti-vaxxers running to hospitals
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:19 PM
Dec 2021

Hospitals full of all those vaccine-pushing doctors.

liberalla

(11,089 posts)
18. It's unfortunate, preventable (most likely), but certainly NOT demonic!
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:22 PM
Dec 2021

You know what it was? It was predictable!

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
19. A wave is coming, and they will die by the thousands. "Dem Hoax" "Kung Flu" "Magically Going Away"
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:25 PM
Dec 2021

Yeah that all helped. May he be indicted for manslaughter. Did not need to be like this, but his followers were encouraged to defy reality and science. They still are. To the grave.

Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #19)

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
34. If it were human, it would be considered a serial killer already.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:22 AM
Dec 2021

People have died from it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
36. Have they? Everything I've seen says that Omicron is highly transmissable,
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:16 AM
Dec 2021

but hardly anyone even winds up in hospital. In South Africa, hospitalizations dropped dramatically with Omicron. So perhaps some have died, but nothing like the numbers with Delta.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
37. Yes- people are dying from it
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:25 AM
Dec 2021

We are already buying KN95 masks again, and carrying hand sanitizer.

I have a dental appointment on Tuesday, and am nervous about it.

Both of us have had our boosters.

This is not going to be a bad "cold season" by any stretch of the imagination.

On edit- sorry- forgot to add my link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/12/18/7-deaths-from-omicron-covid-19-coronavirus-variant-in-uk-showing-its-not-the-omicold/?sh=402bc7d52023

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
39. I've been wearing my KN95 masks all along, myself. No change there.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:54 AM
Dec 2021

And even if I'm wrongly underplaying Omicron's severity, I am not at all saying it's like a cold. Covid is not a cold, even in its mildest form.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
41. Hardly anyone ends up in the hospital?
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 07:44 AM
Dec 2021

That's news for UK. Their hospital admissions are going up. And UK is reporting deaths from omicron.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
21. "I'd rather die than admit a Democrat might have been right after all."
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:43 PM
Dec 2021

Well, you got your wish, stupid lady.
]

Judi Lynn

(164,124 posts)
23. What a shame for them.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:04 PM
Dec 2021




From their obituary:
. . . . Jacqueline A. Alpeter James C. Alpeter III December 14, 2021 Jacqueline A. Alpeter, 64 and her son James C. Alpeter III, 30, both left on Tuesday, December 14 from Crouse Hospital to dine and live forever with their Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ in a far green country . . . .

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
28. "To dine with their lord and savior".
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:24 PM
Dec 2021

St. Peter is going to require a mask at the pearly gates. Jesus don't want no COVID.

elias7

(4,229 posts)
24. My body, my choice. Polio, small pox, measles, etc
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:06 PM
Dec 2021

Would not have been eradicated and/or squelched for the past 60 yrs if she and her ilk was making decisions back then.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
38. Your choice your death, Bubye!
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:27 AM
Dec 2021

OOF let alone sympathy for liberty pride morons even after 750,000+ deaths, you don't RUSH willingly to get a free vaccine for the issue:

Another stupid prize winner!



DFW

(60,186 posts)
42. Your body, your choice, yes. But other people's bodies--NOT your choice.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 08:45 AM
Dec 2021

It's perverse that anti-vaxxers are deliberately using the phrase of those who advocate abortion rights. Abortion is not contagious (I wish abortion RIGHTS were).

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